Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Orange Joe]

Their authority is derived from manpower, they are collective labor.

You can even do the same on the consumer end.

lol ahh if only it really worked liked that. In reality there is always people that will work for anything they can get. Removing any bargaining a non government backed union would have.

[Machismo]

So yeah, you just have a compulsive aversion to the word rather than being able to point to any actual difference.

Luckily for you that's a treatable condition and would be covered under Medicare for All.

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Starting to seeing a lot of claims without evidence on your part again, sweaty. Might be a sign that your "government is bad" position isn't actually rooted in reality.

You have the choice of where you shop, nobody is holding a gun to your head.

That's the evidence.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/government

[Elegiac]

You can even do the same on the consumer end.

Yeah! Maybe all the consumers can get together and negotiate with businesses to set a minimum floor below which wages aren't permitted to drop.

Wait a minute, that sounds kind of familiar...

[Machismo]

lol ahh if only it really worked liked that. In reality there is always people that will work for anything they can get. Removing any bargaining a non government backed union would have.

Then, do it as a consumer.

Don't shop anywhere that doesn't pay their employees what you feel they deserve.

[Elegiac]

You have the choice of where you shop, nobody is holding a gun to your head.

Choosing between two different Krogers isn't a choice, fucking lol.

[Machismo]

Yeah! Maybe all the consumers can get together and negotiate with businesses to set a minimum floor below which wages aren't permitted to drop.

Wait a minute, that sounds kind of familiar...

Don't shop at any business that refuses to pay their employees what you feel they deserve.

[PosPosPos]

It really do sound like he's fine with collective regulation of the economy for worker interests, just as long as you don't call it government.

If that ain't the most American political stance I don't know what is.

No, he's okay with government as long as it doesn't have the power to act like a government.

There's a difference.

[Machismo]

Choosing between two different Krogers isn't a choice, fucking lol.

Shop at Giant, Safeway, Raley's, Albertson's, Weis, Lidl, Wal-Mart, Target or any other stores.

[Orange Joe]

Then, do it as a consumer.

Don't shop anywhere that doesn't pay their employees what you feel they deserve.

Again til reality kicks in. In which a good portion of the population can't afford to choose. They have to take the cheapest option so they can pay rent/eat.


Must be nice to live in a dream world.

[Machismo]

No, he's okay with government as long as it doesn't have the power to act like a government.

There's a difference.

You keep pushing that lie... what a shame.

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Again til reality kicks in. In which a good portion of the population can't afford to choose. They have to take the cheapest option so they can pay rent/eat.


Must be nice to live in a dream world.

You are literally blaming me, because you are lazy, and cannot be bothered.

[Orange Joe]

Shop at Giant, Safeway, Raley's, Albertson's, Weis, Lidl, Wal-Mart, Target or any other stores.

What does that change when they are all selling the same products from the same manufacturing?

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You keep pushing that lie... what a shame.

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You are literally blaming me, because you are lazy, and cannot be bothered.

I'm not blaming you for anything. I'm showing how reality won't let your dream world exist.

[PosPosPos]

Again til reality kicks in. In which a good portion of the population can't afford to choose. They have to take the cheapest option so they can pay rent/eat.


Must be nice to live in a dream world.

In his anarchist utopia, people can choose not to work and somehow not starve and lose their homes etc, so at least there's something to it. If only it were real, that is.

[Machismo]

What does that change when they are all selling the same products from the same manufacturing?

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I'm not blaming you for anything. I'm showing how reality won't let your dream world exist.

You have thousands of different options, shop online...

Start your own brand.

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In his anarchist utopia, people can choose not to work and somehow not starve and lose their homes etc, so at least there's something to it. If only it were real, that is.

I'm still not an anarchist, stop lying.

[Elegiac]

Shop at Giant, Safeway, Raley's, Albertson's, Weis, Lidl, Wal-Mart, Target or any other stores.

Many of which are owned by the same chains, acquire products and materials from the same source, or are equally exploitative.

The only choice is which oversimplified logo appears on the packaging; no actual systemic change is effected especially when a market is captive as many places often are thanks to tactics employed by companies like Wal-Mart.

It's not a choice, but doubtless you'll keep repeating it is without providing any evidence as usual.

[Orange Joe]

You have thousands of different options, shop online...

Start your own brand.

I mean... Just keep dreaming bud. You would think if it was so easy this would be happening somewhere in the world.

[Machismo]

Many of which are owned by the same chains, acquire products and materials from the same source, or are equally exploitative.

The only choice is which oversimplified logo appears on the packaging; no actual systemic change is effected especially when a market is captive as many places often are thanks to tactics employed by companies like Wal-Mart.

That's just a small list of many, many options.

Shop online, have it delivered.

Costco, BJ's, Harris Teeter, Wegman's ... Shall we continue?

[Elegiac]

Start your own brand.

Tfw Machismo has gone full on Republican.

"Just start your own business if you don't like your poverty wages."

[Machismo]

I mean... Just keep dreaming bud. You would think if it was so easy this would be happening somewhere in the world.

All it requires is for consumers to actually put their money where their mouths are.

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Tfw Machismo has gone full on Republican.

"Just start your own business if you don't like your poverty wages."

I've always been a conservative, this shouldn't come as any surprise.

I'm simply not a Republican, because they aren't conservatives.

[Orange Joe]

All it requires is for consumers to actually put their money where their mouths are.

And then not be able to put food in there. Yup, It's just so easy.

[Machismo]

And then not be able to put food in there. Yup, It's just so easy.

How many grocery stores do you have in a 50 mile radius?

Find one you are willing to support.