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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's just a small list of many, many options.
    And still doesn't refute

    are owned by the same chains, acquire products and materials from the same source, or are equally exploitative.
    You're also speaking from the position of someone with enough disposable income to have the luxury of choice. A lot of people have to buy from unethical brands because it is the cheapest option and that is all they can afford - but according to you they are still somehow at fault for a system that gives them no choice but buy unethically, or don't eat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How many grocery stores do you have in a 50 mile radius?

    Find one you are willing to support.
    1, next question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Then, do it as a consumer.

    Don't shop anywhere that doesn't pay their employees what you feel they deserve.
    You have a very naive view of people and the world, if you think this actually works for anything. If people bullying businesses into compliance through boycotting worked, we wouldn't have minimum wage laws being proposed and enacted.
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    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How many grocery stores do you have in a 50 mile radius?
    Never heard of a food desert, huh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    And still doesn't refute



    You're also speaking from the position of someone with enough disposable income to have the luxury of choice. A lot of people have to buy from unethical brands because it is the cheapest option and that is all they can afford.
    I had the choice when I was broke as shit, as well.

    If you want more choices, and you don't like how those companies are run, then start your own. If you genuinely believe there's enough people who want the same thing that you do, then provide it for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Never heard of a food desert, huh.
    How many?

    I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    1, next question
    And what is the name of this store?

    I suggest you move, or order your food online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I've always been a conservative,
    Nah, you aren't.

    Conservatives at least have an ostensible ideological platform, you just bitch anytime the word government is brought up and pretend that constitutes a holistic philosophy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How many?

    I'll wait.
    I told you, 1, what are you waiting for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I had the choice when I was broke as shit, as well.
    The plural of anecdote isn't evidence, sweaty.

    "Just collectively act" - government is a collective action. It's really just a case of you being contrarian.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    You have a very naive view of people and the world, if you think this actually works for anything. If people bullying businesses into compliance through boycotting worked, we wouldn't have minimum wage laws being proposed and enacted.
    That's because consumers are lazy... and that's not my fault, nor is it the fault of any business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    I told you, 1, what are you waiting for?
    Where is it?

    I want to know the name of this one store. Oh, and I suggested you move, or order online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And what is the name of this store?

    I suggest you move, or order your food online.
    atm I think it's called family fare. It's had a few different names of the years. Can't afford online ordering. it costs too much.

    I suggest you come back to reality cause your dream just can't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The plural of anecdote isn't evidence, sweaty.

    "Just collectively act" - government is a collective action. It's really just a case of you being contrarian.
    It's your argument... and I refuted it.

    Easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Where is it?

    I want to know the name of this one store. Oh, and I suggested you move, or order online.
    Can't afford to move. Things aren't as easy as you want to think they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's your argument... and I refuted it.
    Disagreeing isn't refutation.

    Refuting would actually involve providing some evidence. Which you think would be easy if your views were actually reflective of reality, and yet...
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Tfw Machismo has gone full on Republican.

    "Just start your own business if you don't like your poverty wages."
    Except he was exactly like this, years back.
    "My successes are my own, but my failures are due to extremist leftist liberals" - Party of Personal Responsibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    atm I think it's called family fare. It's had a few different names of the years. Can't afford online ordering. it costs too much.

    I suggest you come back to reality cause your dream just can't happen.
    Weird, I just checked their locations, and they all seem to be near other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Can't afford to move. Things aren't as easy as you want to think they are.
    Maybe you should get a better job. Considering it looks like you are lying about only having 1 store in 50 miles... that seems problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Weird, I just checked their locations, and they all seem to be near other options.
    "My personal experience is valid but yours isn't" is an interesting position but you do you, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    You literally pointed to me saying I'm not an anarchist.

    You've been lying for years.

    Thanks for the proof of your lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You want to force small businesses out of work.
    If the business relies on paying slave labor wages that forces their employees onto welfare to survive, yes. THOSE small businesses should be forced out as they serve no purpose for the economy as a whole except to drag it down along with its workers relying on corporate welfare disguised as private welfare to keep functioning.

    If the business actually pays its workers a wage for them to survive on without requiring welfare and the benefits and are a net positive for the economy and the workers as a whole, I want to keep these places open. And these are the places that would not be forced out of work with a living minimum wage.

    Your entire ideology can best be summed up as that Norm McDonald from Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo complaining about how the government is now requiring him to wash his dick between customers now as an invasion of his rights and he should be able to raw dog it between them all without the government stopping him.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
    "mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Weird, I just checked their locations, and they all seem to be near other options.

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    Maybe you should get a better job. Considering it looks like you are lying about only having 1 store in 50 miles... that seems problematic.
    Thats funny cause my town isn't even listed on their site something tells me you didn't check shit lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    "My personal experience is valid but yours isn't" is an interesting position but you do you, lol.
    I never said yours isn't valid.

    I support you finding your own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Disagreeing isn't refutation.

    Refuting would actually involve providing some evidence. Which you think would be easy if your views were actually reflective of reality, and yet...
    It's your argument...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    If the business relies on paying slave labor wages that forces their employees onto welfare to survive, yes. THOSE small businesses should be forced out as they serve no purpose for the economy as a whole except to drag it down along with its workers relying on corporate welfare disguised as private welfare to keep functioning.

    If the business actually pays its workers a wage for them to survive on without requiring welfare and the benefits and are a net positive for the economy and the workers as a whole, I want to keep these places open. And these are the places that would not be forced out of work with a living minimum wage.

    Your entire ideology can best be summed up as that Norm McDonald from Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo complaining about how the government is now requiring him to wash his dick between customers now as an invasion of his rights and he should be able to raw dog it between them all without the government stopping him.
    Then. Don't. Fucking. Shop. There.

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