Progressives have zero fucking leverage. What are you guys going to do, appeal to populism?
Nope, their plan is more popular.
Are you going to appeal to fiscal responsibility?
Nope, you're losing on that end, as well.
Are you going to appeal to their desire to stay in office?
Nope, his plan is far better for his own personal survival.
You have no leverage.
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It was literally the poll I presented. the $11 is more popular among both Republicans and Democrats.
That's why Biden isn't pushing Manchin and the others.
Well done Captain Clever. You've successfully identified an already known fact.
For some reason, though, you're super snitty about people attempting to get said votes and claiming apocalypse will be the result when... No, actually, there's not evidence to support it besides authority fallacies which aren't evidence.![]()
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I'm pointing out that it's not going to happen, and Biden knows it. People want to be upset that political reality exists.
Biden understands that Manchin is an asset, and this is simply not a fight worth picking, especially when they can sell an program that is more popular with both parties.
I don't want any increase, but an $11 is better than a $15. It's the less shitty option.
And if you go back to the start, I was simply offering logical analysis as to why Biden wasn't pushing Manchin. You guys are the ones who decided to try and derail it all.
Politics is largely about priorities, and this isn't a high enough priority for any of them to warrant such a drastic change.
The derail about minimum wage that spanned the last few pages and an entire thread needs to cease immediately. This has far escalated beyond what was ever necessary and if it continues will see matched action. You're all responsible for your own posts, so keep that in mind when continuing a tangent you feel is distracting from the main topic.
If you want to discuss minimum wage, create a new legitimate thread. Otherwise, keep on topic.
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White House: US will formally recognize Armenian genocide.
One of the follow people will get very mad. Demand that Biden "Debate Me!"
- Recep Erdoğan
- Cenk Uygur
Or both.
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To those who think Biden’s admin will be soft on China. They just cucked them, by issuing sanctions, hours before a meeting to improve relations. US brought up the Muslim camps and human rights concerns, with China countering with whataboutism pointing to Middle East and the treatment of black people. US prevented the end of the meeting, by going on a rant about Japan and South Korea accounts of China, being different from what China claims, while Chinese rep... literally looked at his watch:
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Considering the translator for China changed the “slaughter of black people” to translate as ‘not very nice to black people’... it’s at least a rhetorical tact aimed at Chines speakers.
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It’s like the Maginsky act... they targeted individuals, not industry.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
"mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.
This is all moot Republicans will not vote for any increase. They didn't vote for a bill that had 75 percent support. What this will come down to is reforming the fillibuster. Manchin is worthless with it as is, Warnock is up for re-election in 2022. If democrats don't change the game they are fucked