Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Machismo]

So yeah: you don't need a budget increase. You just want one without having to sacrifice aforementioned nonsense pork projects.

The Armed Forces has more than sufficient funding. Get better at living within your means, Chiefs of Staff.

Remember when you guys were bitching for more than a hundred pages about the idea of not having budget increases?

It feels like it was almost yesterday...

[Machismo]

It’s almost like having some budgetary increases are acceptable while others aren’t. Weird.

I look forward to the continued push for fiscal responsibility. Keep up the good work!!!

[Fugus]

I’ve heard plenty of stories over the years.

I would still prefer that the troops get better pay even if it means maintaining the waste.

I agree they need better pay. But remember these are the same people who got caught burying a report showing how they already wasted 25 BILLION a year they could save without firing anyone or cutting wages before they got 130 billion more.

These are the same people who made the news when Obama came into office and gave them a billion to upgrade their systems Veteran Affairs to speed up their disability claims only to have them turn around and spend 500 million of it on new furniture for the higher ups so they could more comfortably ignore their jobs.

I have no disagreement about better pay for the soldiers. But they NEED outside oversight of their budget at this point.

[Machismo]

Thanks. I’ll continue to push for shifting to prioritizing spending that benefits society over corporations. Let me know when you get on board, we’d love to have you.

Now, if only people actually gave a shit about budgets...

[Machismo]

Not even a denial. Corporations first for Machismo.

It is very entertaining watching people turn on a dime, in order to justify their complete and total hypocrisy on such issues.

But hey, if it means budget cuts, I'm all for it. Stay inconsistent!!!

[Machismo]

Nobody has turned on a dime. Nice try though.

Nah, I fully support your push to decrease the budget. I think it's a sound idea. Thanks for taking my advice.

[Machismo]

Not even remotely related to what I was saying. Nice try though.

So, how big of a cut do you think they should make?

[Machismo]

To the military? Let’s start with half. Catching up yet?

Sounds great, let's do the same for the rest of the government. I fucking love efficiency!!!

[Machismo]

Nope. I will never agree to cutting necessary social programs. Sorry, I’m not down with your austerity corporatist genocide plans.

Some people think all that defense spending is necessary... looks like you guys keep arguing against yourselves.

I mean, you are the one who said you didn't want those darn public-sector employees out-earning the corporations and the private sector.

Man, I would love to see big cuts to Medicare and Social Security, and finally put this country on a path of prosperity. Glad you're on board.

[Machismo]

Some people like to claim they aren’t corporatists because they oppose all regulations. It’s always transparent and hilarious to anyone with the ability to reason.

I'm not the one trying to make sure corporations get their fair share.

Here's to hoping Biden embraces fiscal responsibility, and starts to push to balance the budget!

[Machismo]

Yes you are. You’re the one arguing they should get MORE than their fair share, simply because they have more money. You have never even tried to deny it. Keep up.

Nah, I think we need to keep the government spending down, let's get rid of all those Medicare contracts with those corporatists. Why do people want asshats like Rick Scott walking away with hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars?

[Machismo]

Nah, you think we need to empower all the corporations by letting them own all the infrastructure and politicians. Stop masking shit. While also limiting access to basic necessities, like healthcare. Go on about that genocide kid.

No thanks, I see no reason to keep spending more and more taxpayer dollars into programs that just line the pockets of corporations and their executives.

It's weird how many people support such things these days.

[Fugus]

Some people think all that defense spending is necessary... looks like you guys keep arguing against yourselves.

I mean, you are the one who said you didn't want those darn public-sector employees out-earning the corporations and the private sector.

Man, I would love to see big cuts to Medicare and Social Security, and finally put this country on a path of prosperity. Glad you're on board.

Please don’t derail this thread with more of your libertarian dystopia that you pretend is progress.

I really don’t want to have to eat another infraction just to save this page again.

Yours views on this are circular at best and have been throughly debunked, just stop....

[Machismo]

Right, you just want those corporations to own and run society. See, I want SOCIAL programs owned by the people. They aren’t corporations. Weird you still haven’t figured out the distinction... then again, you’re pushing for a corporatist society. So obfuscation is a necessity.

No, no I do not. That's just a straw man on your part.

But hey, at least you're finally coming around to the idea that spending less taxpayer money is a good thing.

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Please don’t derail this thread with more of your libertarian dystopia that you pretend is progress.

I really don’t want to have to eat another infraction just to save this page again.

Yours views on this are circular at best and have been throughly debunked, just stop....

I'm just happy that the Biden supporters are finally open to the idea of cutting spending.

[Machismo]

Nope, it’s a statement of fact based on previous posts and your inability to counter the argument. Want me to link examples? You know I have them ready...

Evidence for that, please.

I'll wait. You have plenty of my quotes to choose from.

Meanwhile, it would be a refreshing surprise to see Biden, and his supporters, finally embrace some fiscal responsibility.

[Elegiac]

Remember when you guys were bitching for more than a hundred pages about the idea of not having budget increases?

Remember when all budget increases went to the same ends? No?

Then shove off with this silly gotcha. It is not a matter of 'fiscal responsibility', it's a matter of pouring money into things other than infrastructure and public services.

[Machismo]

Remember when all budget increases went to the same ends? No?

Then shove off with this silly gotcha.

it looks like people are finally opening up to the idea of cutting government spending, even if they previously showed concerns that doing so would slow the overall economy.

I'd call that progress.

[Elegiac]

it looks like people are finally opening up to the idea of cutting government spending, even if they previously showed concerns that doing so would slow the overall economy.

Then you need to get your eyes checked, because what people are calling for is using that money for other public projects.

People disliking military bloat doesn't mean anyone agrees with whatever ancap nonsense you're pushing.

[Machismo]

Then you need to get your eyes checked, because what people are calling for is using that money for other public projects.

People disliking military bloat doesn't mean anyone agrees with whatever ancap nonsense you're pushing.

But, how do Biden and his supporters plan on paying for all of this?

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Here you go, both are corporatist policies. Let me know how you refute them.

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Reduced military spending with appropriate spending on things like healthcare, infrastructure, and education. We’ve been very clear.

So, that's not what you claimed to be a fact... do we need to go over the difference between a fact and an opinion?

I'm literally supporting free speech, and you equate that to something else.

[Elegiac]

But, how do Biden and his supporters plan on paying for all of this?

Again: get your eyes checked.

using that money (i.e. bloated military funding) for other public projects