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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Making it more of a socialist "utopia" where everyone is equally low isn't "making it better" either.

    Again, as I just posted, you have little to nothing good to say about the US but have a massive list of things you want to see changed. No matter how you see it being remade, you intend to destroy it first...
    A bit of a hyperbole, no? Doing something almost all the other western countries already do, is hardly a socialist utopia. And calling it that is pretty much exactly what Elegiac described it as. A Red Scare.
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    And again, let’s presume equity in schools is achievable. Then why should a parent read to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Yes, that's right. Plant-based beer. The horror.
    Um...does he think "hops" come from rabbits? The fuck is "plant-based beer"? Is there somehow non-plant-based beer? Wheat the fuck is he talking about? He cannot possibly have said

    (clicks link)

    OH MY GOD.

    Also, are those shrimp? And did the time-based-url (nicely done) show chicken? I mean...is the editor trying to make him look even more the fool than "plant-based beer"? Because having grilled my share of stuff, if someone told me "you can't grill beef anymore, you can only grill shrimp, chicken, and vegetables" I would say "boo hoo fuckity hoo, my grocery store has at least three different brands of chicken sausages in at least ten different flavors, grab a kebab skewer, we're doing this".

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    -The American right's response to most serious issues that would require (small) changes to their way of life.
    Well...yeah, but I should have added "AND I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME". Say what you want about anti-maskers, you can wear a mask around them at least. But we still have to share a planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Um...does he think "hops" come from rabbits? The fuck is "plant-based beer"? Is there somehow non-plant-based beer? Wheat the fuck is he talking about?
    My wife's response was to jokingly bemoan the loss of her bullion beer.

    Also, are those shrimp? And did the time-based-url (nicely done)
    Thanks. I figured I didn't want to make you watch a full minute and a half of his irrelevant nonsense before getting to the relevant nonsense.

    show chicken? I mean...is the editor trying to make him look even more the fool than "plant-based beer"? Because having grilled my share of stuff, if someone told me "you can't grill beef anymore, you can only grill shrimp, chicken, and vegetables" I would say "boo hoo fuckity hoo, my grocery store has at least three different brands of chicken sausages in at least ten different flavors, grab a kebab skewer, we're doing this".
    Oh, he wasn't saying you can't grill beef, he was saying you can't eat meat at all anymore. Pretty sure the point of showing the barbecued meat was to drive home what barbecues should look like, as he says that Middle America would never stand for it. It's all nonsense anyway, but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    the point of showing the barbecued meat was to drive home what barbecues should look like, as he says that Middle America would never stand for it.
    Middle America will never stand for...grilling chicken and shrimp. Also pork chops in the very next cut. Last shot is hot dogs that I can promise you aren't 100% beef.

    Dude literally showed way more non-beef items than beef. I still say the editor was playing the "let's see what I can get away with" game. And he won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Middle America will never stand for...grilling chicken and shrimp. Also pork chops in the very next cut. Last shot is hot dogs that I can promise you aren't 100% beef.
    Like I said: he wasn't saying "you can't grill beef," he was saying "you can't grill any meat at all." While showing a variety of grilled meat.

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    The Modi government **will not import #COVID19 vaccines** itself, but expects states and companies to acquire them on their own—a “recipe for disaster”.
    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/news/exclu...083125605.html

    Modi is basically the Trump of India.

    Expecting US Democrats' to clean up after all of the world's Trumps ... it was expected.
    There's a reason so many Authoritarian and Oligarch regimes are trying to meddle in US elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I love how the right wing’s attacks on Biden have been so pathetic and fruitless that they’ve resorted to “He wants you to eat fewer hamburgers!”
    It's not even new. This is literally recycled propaganda from like 3-4 years ago, whenever the GND was first being discussed by AOC and progressives.

    That's what's so frustrating about all of this, it's carbon copy bullshit. It's not even original bullshit. I expect some originality in my bullshit, thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Expecting US Democrats' to clean up after all of the world's Trumps ... it was expected.
    There's a reason so many Authoritarian and Oligarch regimes are trying to meddle in US elections.
    Because it's in the economic interests of the US to help India.

    What's the reason that oligarchs are meddling that you think is connected to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    It's not even new. This is literally recycled propaganda from like 3-4 years ago, whenever the GND was first being discussed by AOC and progressives.

    That's what's so frustrating about all of this, it's carbon copy bullshit. It's not even original bullshit. I expect some originality in my bullshit, thank you very much.
    Thankfully, repeated or not, it all seems to be fruitless noise from them as far as smearing Biden goes.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
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    I love how the right wing’s attacks on Biden have been so pathetic and fruitless that they’ve resorted to “He wants you to eat fewer hamburgers!”
    don't forget the on going cry about not making a trip to the boarder to ....ummm.... take a press op photo?

    They want the VP to go down there and throw paper towels or something at people on the boarder?

    Guess they don't understand that things these days can be managed from miles and miles away when you have competent people in charge.

    It was the same thing about Biden's first press conference. Bitched for months, he had one and fox slithered away from the topic when it did not go insanely horrible like the all said it was going to go.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    They want the VP to go down there and throw paper towels or something at people on the boarder?
    Politics is purely performative for them, especially after Trump. Working quietly and getting a ton of shit done isn't their measure for success any longer, it's how visible you are and how visible you are "doing things" like meeting with people.

    They want their damned show.

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    Quoted from a friend that voted for Trump twice, "the best thing about Biden is that you don't have to think about Biden all the time." He claimed that he will be voting for Biden if he is running in 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Quoted from a friend that voted for Trump twice, "the best thing about Biden is that you don't have to think about Biden all the time." He claimed that he will be voting for Biden if he is running in 2024.
    Quoted from a family member on Christmas day who supported Trump (Not sure if he voted for him or not since he does have a criminal record so not sure if he can), "Biden won't be too bad I guess, he is for the white man".

    Also quoted by him during that interaction, "The Democrats are going to try to pack the courts and shove through their liberal crap".

    Also quoted from him in the same interaction after I pointed out how the Republicans had literally did what he was accusing the Democrats of attempting and how by his own logic, either Gorsuch or Barret shouldn't be there and about the lower courts, "You and the Democrats are a bunch of Satan Worshipers who will burn in hell".

    Too many are putting their feelings ahead of their family still. Also just 30 minutes ago, passed a van on the side of the road with flags that looked like decent quality fabric but with crap like "Trump/Pence 2024" and "Impeach Biden" on them.

    Don't forget the impact of stupid people in large numbers or how many of them will lie about their stuff in public and then vote for the crap in private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Also just 30 minutes ago, passed a van on the side of the road with flags that looked like decent quality fabric but with crap like "Trump/Pence 2024" and "Impeach Biden" on them.
    Trump and Pence? Okay...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump and Pence? Okay...
    Yep, it was literally the same blue crap slogan they used in 2020 with it changed to 2024.

    Part of me wonders if this guy was stupid or just a grifter but most people I see like that largely believe the bullshit they pedal too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump and Pence? Okay...
    If Trump runs, and I really hope he does, he would likely pick Nikki Haley as his new running mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    If Trump runs, and I really hope he does, he would likely pick Nikki Haley as his new running mate.
    I don’t want trump to run again, no matter how slim his odds might seem. They seemed mighty slim last time, and yet... look what happened.

    Plus, Trump being in the news and in the limelight is just damaging for the country and the world, period. The less we hear from him, the better.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    If Trump runs, and I really hope he does, he would likely pick Nikki Haley as his new running mate.
    No, fuck that. The longer Trump is out of politics the better. Without him to rally around his shithead base will start to scatter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I don’t want trump to run again, no matter how slim his odds might seem. They seemed mighty slim last time, and yet... look what happened.

    Plus, Trump being in the news and in the limelight is just damaging for the country and the world, period. The less we hear from him, the better.
    I would hate that part of it, he's such an embarrassment for the United States. I really hope he's actually in jail by then. And good point about the slim margin from last time - nothing is certain anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    No, fuck that. The longer Trump is out of politics the better. Without him to rally around his shithead base will start to scatter.
    They really are finding new levels of insanity to embrace. I'll be curious if Biden decides to one-term it and give Harris the baton, so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Too many are putting their feelings ahead of their family still. Also just 30 minutes ago, passed a van on the side of the road with flags that looked like decent quality fabric but with crap like "Trump/Pence 2024" and "Impeach Biden" on them.
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    Still got 2 houses near work that refuse to take the huge banners off the front of their houses from 2020. Imagine still being that bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I don’t want trump to run again, no matter how slim his odds might seem. They seemed mighty slim last time, and yet... look what happened.

    Plus, Trump being in the news and in the limelight is just damaging for the country and the world, period. The less we hear from him, the better.
    Problem is in 4 years his base is really going to snowball since they no longer really have the consolidation they had in 2016-2020.

    Trump is going to have to get 100% more freaky in order to pull all of his base back together since a lot of them have fractured into really nutty segments, even way too nutty for Trump.

    Then he is going to scare away the lower 20% that are not as freaky as his base if he tries to pander to the full on nuts/racist.


    Its not going to go well for trump, but then again that is what we said in 2015-2016.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Still got 2 houses near work that refuse to take the huge banners off the front of their houses from 2020. Imagine still being that bitter.
    Got a guy around here on the highway that actually has a giant wooden sign up still.

    Really want to see someone with some white and blue colored tape or spray paint to change it from

    “TRUMP PENCE 2020” into
    “I PUMP PENIS”

    Like on a meme I saw.

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    If Trump tried to run again, while his odds are low, it isn’t low enough.

    Remember the crazies and the racists it brought out last time and how they think he was cheated. He would mobilize lots of violence and the GOP itself would fall in line with it again for power. And unless HR1 is passed by then, they will have stuff in place it outright steal the election already as well to go with it.
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