Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[kaid]

https://twitter.com/marceelias/statu...588840963?s=19

Meh. Some say not so bad for Democrats. Yet you look at states that gained a seat, they take a hatchet to gerrymandering. Honestly the people that moved or birthrate may vote Dem, yet again will never see a Dem seat.

California better chop a Republican seat. Many wanting McCarthy's seat. Idk much bout the rest yet again if Republican controlled they will gerrymander not to lose a seat.

New York state lost a seat by 89 people.

Honestly both TX and FL probably should have gained another seat than they did so I think a lot of under response was happening not just NY.

[Nurasu]

I'd also point out that the worst hit isn't really in the House, it's in the EC. The swing is worth as much or more than the majority of individual states. It makes the hill that much steeper for Dems to climb for the Presidency.

[Breccia]

67 misleading claims from Biden

Yeah, that's not ideal at all. I guess that's going to be a pretty high total comp--

511 from Trump in the same time.

Of course.

To put those numbers into context: if Biden's lies are like the "freshman 15", then Trump would have gained one-hundred fourteen pounds.

(reviews footage)

Yeah, seems about right.

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Also I guess Illinois, New York and California will likely remove a Republican seat.

Please be that Trump harpy Stefanik. Claimed to be a moderate. Danced with Trump at the 2020 RNC.

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US to share AstraZeneca shots with world after safety check

"But America First!"



"Oh."

Given the strong portfolio of vaccines that the U.S. already has and that have been authorized by the FDA, and given that the AstraZeneca vaccine is not authorized for use in the U.S., we do not need to use the AstraZeneca vaccine here during the next several months. Therefore the U.S. is looking at options to share the AstraZeneca doses with other countries as they become available.

The administration’s identified U.S. commercial suppliers of therapeutics that are immediately available to help relieve the suffering of the COVID-19 patients in India, We’ve identified rapid diagnostic tests and supplies and PPE, and additional ventilators that are available to transferred to India

-- the White House

[jonnysensible]

i dunno what thread to post something like this in, im just gonna assume this is the de facto US politics and current events thread (as it should be)

Theres a whisper that since Canada declared the proud boys a terrorist group that they will pursue criminal charges (providing funding for a terrorist organization) against people who donated to the proud boys pre-jan 6th. Which would be pretty awesome.

[postman1782]

i dunno what thread to post something like this in, im just gonna assume this is the de facto US politics and current events thread (as it should be)

Theres a whisper that since Canada declared the proud boys a terrorist group that they will pursue criminal charges (providing funding for a terrorist organization) against people who donated to the proud boys pre-jan 6th. Which would be pretty awesome.

The fact that they might be an international organization, scares the fuck out of me. And I hope they take them all down.

[Breccia]

Theres a whisper that since Canada declared the proud boys a terrorist group that they will pursue criminal charges (providing funding for a terrorist organization) against people who donated to the proud boys pre-jan 6th.

Man, Venmo is getting all the assists this year.

[Omega10]

i dunno what thread to post something like this in, im just gonna assume this is the de facto US politics and current events thread (as it should be)

Theres a whisper that since Canada declared the proud boys a terrorist group that they will pursue criminal charges (providing funding for a terrorist organization) against people who donated to the proud boys pre-jan 6th. Which would be pretty awesome.

Fingers crossed that this comes to fruition. WOW

[Milchshake]

They’re sending the letters, thank god.



The most frustrating thing when canvassing last year, "Trump sent me that check..."

Spike that football Joe

[Breccia]

Biden's secret talks with GOP

"Wait, what?"

I'll summarize: the GOP's pathetic "we have some rough ideas and the word 'infrastructure' in crayon" plan was basically an overture to negotiate. This is happening. Biden only needs a small number, and the filibuster is moot, and he can go nuclear on something else.

"But the GOP will reward his willingness to compromise with backbiting and throw it back in his face."

Maybe. But if Biden ties everything in both bills into one vote, he'll at least get this through. And he's been piling up the victories so far.

[Fugus]

@Breccia

What do you think the odds are on them nuking the filibuster at this point?

Because we know HR1 doesn’t pass with it in place and we know what happens without HR1.

[Breccia]

in fox's alternative reality this is part of biden's climate outline.

Our Ruling

In a graphic, Fox News claimed that "Biden's climate requirements" will "cut 90% of red meat from diet" to a "max 4 lbs per year" and "one burger per month."

The graphic echoed other chyrons and statements made by the network’s personalities the day after Biden pledged to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2030. But the graphic is wrong, and Roberts issued a correction days later.

Biden’s climate plans do not include restrictions on red meat consumption, a White House official confirmed. Claims that they do trace back to a Daily Mail article that wrongly linked a 2020 study from the University of Michigan to Biden’s plans.

We rate this claim Pants on Fire!

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What do you think the odds are on them nuking the filibuster at this point?

Zero to negative zero.

There's too much risk of it being used against them later. Besides, with "the nuclear option" you can ram three things you really want down an opposition's throat anyhow.

[Fugus]

Zero to negative zero.

There's too much risk of it being used against them later. Besides, with "the nuclear option" you can ram three things you really want down an opposition's throat anyhow.

The GOP would nuke it if it benefited them in an instant though, just like they did with Gorsuch and shoving through the rest that they could. McCain breaking was the only reason the ACA is still in place.

And with it, no DC statehood or PR statehood like that would even matter as Georgia will be the template for the GOP ran states making sure that they would stay in power even with 75%+ of their populace against them in those states.

[Themius]

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Zero to negative zero.

There's too much risk of it being used against them later. Besides, with "the nuclear option" you can ram three things you really want down an opposition's throat anyhow.

This whole "used against" is rather bullshit honestly... how has it worked out? don't want it used against? Then win elections? Getting rid of the filibuster and passing the democratic agenda... would probably do a lot towards getting people to vote for them.

Right now... it is a turn off..

[Breccia]

The GOP would nuke it if it benefited them in an instant though

They had their chance. They didn't.

McConnell is a cowardly craven coward, but he's not an idiot.

This whole "used against" is rather bullshit honestly... how has it worked out?

Honestly, not that bad. Remember when the GOP went nuclear on repealing and "replacing", it failed, and they gave up because they only had one try?

[Themius]

They had their chance. They didn't.

McConnell is a cowardly craven coward, but he's not an idiot.



Honestly, not that bad. Remember when the GOP went nuclear on repealing and "replacing", it failed, and they gave up because they only had one try?

Ah one thing "maybe" meanwhile we have a century of civil rights and labour fuckery.

[Breccia]

Ah one thing "maybe"

I disagree with "maybe". I want you to convince me that, if they had ten more tries, they would have still passed zero of them.

Also, we're wandering close to trying to prove a negative here. Neither of us are willing to go back for XXX years and count how many bills would have passed, if the filibuster wasn't around, including bills that were never voted on because they wouldn't have had 60.

If it was such a great short-term idea, McConnell would have done it.

[Themius]

I disagree with "maybe". I want you to convince me that, if they had ten more tries, they would have still passed zero of them.

Also, we're wandering close to trying to prove a negative here. Neither of us are willing to go back for XXX years and count how many bills would have passed, if the filibuster wasn't around, including bills that were never voted on because they wouldn't have had 60.

If it was such a great short-term idea, McConnell would have done it.

We have an idea of how many civil rights and labour bills may have passed... we have news stories since 1922 on the matter.

You say mcconell would have done it but he doesn't "need" to for his agenda does he? Courts are set... with generations worth of damages to come.

[Breccia]

Courts are set

I thought we were talking about the filibuster. Courts seem off-topic to that.

[Themius]

I thought we were talking about the filibuster. Courts seem off-topic to that.

How is that off topic when we brought up mcconill and of course his agenda?

You say if it were such a great idea he would have done it, but that neglects the fact that much of what republicans want has happened via courts already.

[Breccia]

How is that off topic

I was asked about the filibuster, I answered, you challenged, I responded, you swapped to another topic unrelated to the filibuster.

I am done continuing this derailment.

The Senate voted 49-45 on Tuesday evening to confirm Colin Kahl as undersecretary of defense for policy.

Kahl is the third of President Biden's Pentagon nominees to be confirmed by the Senate, but faced one of the most contentious confirmation processes so far for the new administration.

Kahl previously worked at the Pentagon as a top Middle East policy official and also served as national security advisor to Biden during the Obama administration, per Politico.

Kahl's nomination faced fierce Republican opposition on the basis of some of his policy opinions in the Middle East, including support for the 2015 Iran Deal and opposing former President Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

He had also previously landed in hot water over social media posts criticizing the GOP.

Another move to negate the damage Trump did to the country and the world.