Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

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@Kellhound

If you don’t like Clinton winning with the majority between all the candidates outright, take that up with the people who refuse to move us to ranked choice voting.

But trying to mention that the person who got the most votes got elected with Clinton doesn’t help your case.

You would have a better case complaining about how every Republican president since the 1980s but Bushes second term, riding on 9/11, has become president when the majority of the nation has voted for the other guy.

[Kaleredar]

No, you are totally clueless. You see the world in black and white, but not everyone sees politics in that manner.

My original statement that trump never won the majority of the vote still remains true.

That you can FURTHER compound that with “nor did trump ever surpass the vote totals Clinton and Biden received” is only a further condemnation of trump and the stupidity of the electoral college and the absurdity of trumps paltry minority of voters being able to decide how the majority of voters lead their lives.

[Edge-]

the stupidity of the electoral college

Also known as, "Why does someone in Wyoming have 3x the Electoral Power per-vote as my vote in CA does?"

[kaid]

Also known as, "Why does someone in Wyoming have 3x the Electoral Power per-vote as my vote in CA does?"

And then have the gall about being unheard or unrepresented.

[Kellhound]

No, we've simply had you pegged for years.

I'm a libertarian, and I'm well aware the world is not black and white. Alas, I've seen your post history through the years.

No, you do not understand my political views at all. What is my position on the UN? Amtrak? Welfare? Drugs?

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@Kellhound

If you don’t like Clinton winning with the majority between all the candidates outright, take that up with the people who refuse to move us to ranked choice voting.

But trying to mention that the person who got the most votes got elected with Clinton doesn’t help your case.

You would have a better case complaining about how every Republican president since the 1980s but Bushes second term, riding on 9/11, has become president when the majority of the nation has voted for the other guy.

I neither like nor dislike that Clinton won without the majority voting for him. It is just perspective.

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My original statement that trump never won the majority of the vote still remains true.

That you can FURTHER compound that with “nor did trump ever surpass the vote totals Clinton and Biden received” is only a further condemnation of trump and the stupidity of the electoral college and the absurdity of trumps paltry minority of voters being able to decide how the majority of voters lead their lives.

And I did not dispute that he failed to gain even the plurality of votes.

If you do not like the electoral college, you have two options: 1. Get every state to make laws granting the winner of the popular vote all of the electoral votes. 2. Get an amendment past doing away with it.

[jonnysensible]

You talking about the Biden administration doing it 3 months ago?

I mean while we can walk and chew gum at the same time, it still takes time and we can’t start it all at one time.

We are still in the phase where we are stuck choosing which of the Republicans fuck ups we want to fix in what priority. And while we hope to hit all of them, we can’t hit all of them within the first moments of the administration.

the rolling u-turns held it up that's all.

[SirBeef]

Which would have still put Clinton as the winner in either situation and given him a majority of the total votes. Which is why this whole semantics game is so god-damned pointless.

Oh I know.

[Machismo]

No, you do not understand my political views at all. What is my position on the UN? Amtrak? Welfare? Drugs?

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I neither like nor dislike that Clinton won without the majority voting for him. It is just perspective.

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And I did not dispute that he failed to gain even the plurality of votes.

If you do not like the electoral college, you have two options: 1. Get every state to make laws granting the winner of the popular vote all of the electoral votes. 2. Get an amendment past doing away with it.

We're talking about your decision to carry water for Trump, just like how you love to carry water for racists.

Your stance on Amtrak is rather irrelevant.

[Felya]

I neither like nor dislike that Clinton won without the majority voting for him. It is just perspective.

This is semantics, playing off the difference between plurality and majority. This is not a perspective...

[Breccia]

their videos are short and get the message across.

They are aimed at Mr. 140 Character Attention Span.

[Cthulhu 2020]

More people voted for other candidates than they did for him, he just had more votes than any other candidate.

What's the ultimate point of this seemingly pointless semantics argument? The electoral college, which you like to bootlick, elected Clinton as the sitting president. He had more support than any other candidate, and from the overall way he handled our government - balancing the budget and presiding over one of the biggest economic booms in US history - he did something pretty much no other conservative candidate has ever managed to do but always promise. Balancing the budget and seeing some of the lowest unemployment ever. All while expanding liberal policy.

It's almost as if actual conservative policy just expands government debt and annihilates jobs, counter to their promises.

So, back to the original question, are you here simply to whinge about semantics, or do you have any kind of real point? Cause if not, it's time to move on.

[Breccia]

Pelosi sees Cheney being set up for a fall and offers support.

Word is out that House GOP Leaders are looking to push Rep. Liz Cheney from her post as House Republican Conference Chair — their most senior woman in GOP leadership — for a litany of very Republican reasons: she won’t lie, she isn’t humble enough, she’s like a girlfriend rooting for the wrong team, and more

[Machismo]

What's the ultimate point of this seemingly pointless semantics argument? The electoral college, which you like to bootlick, elected Clinton as the sitting president. He had more support than any other candidate, and from the overall way he handled our government - balancing the budget and presiding over one of the biggest economic booms in US history - he did something pretty much no other conservative candidate has ever managed to do but always promise. Balancing the budget and seeing some of the lowest unemployment ever. All while expanding liberal policy.

It's almost as if actual conservative policy just expands government debt and annihilates jobs, counter to their promises.

So, back to the original question, are you here simply to whinge about semantics, or do you have any kind of real point? Cause if not, it's time to move on.

We've known what his point is, to shill for Trump in any way he can.

This isn't a secret.

[Breccia]

Biden takes the shackles off the EPA, points it at low-income communities damaged by pollution, and whispers "go get 'em boy".

[Draco-Onis]

Pelosi sees Cheney being set up for a fall and offers support.

This weird fucked up reality just keeps getting weirder.

[Edge-]

This weird fucked up reality just keeps getting weirder.

Wasn't this the bipartisanship Republicans have been demanding? Why are they so quiet on this?

[Draco-Onis]

Wasn't this the bipartisanship Republicans have been demanding? Why are they so quiet on this?

She's not a republican she is a traitor she dared to speak ill of the dear leader.

[DarkTZeratul]

Wasn't this the bipartisanship Republicans have been demanding? Why are they so quiet on this?

No, bipartisanship is when the Democrats just agree to whatever the Republicans want to do.

[Breccia]

This weird fucked up reality just keeps getting weirder.

It's not as odd as you might think. Pelosi could be trolling McCarthy.

[Draco-Onis]

It's not as odd as you might think. Pelosi could be trolling McCarthy.

Fair enough but it still weird she is a Cheney that's republican royalty she voted with Trump 93%+ of the time but now they want her out. I know it's cliche at this point but they are a cult, we are witnessing the new Nazi party in 2021.