Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[YUPPIE]

You willing to enlist and fight the good fight?

what i want to know is how the US didn't eradicate the Taliban. It feels like we had troops there do nothing or sometimes get pot shots in. Besides nuclear weapons, the US obviously has the most advanced and terrifying military in the world. We have WMDs less destructive than nukes but just as scary on paper.

it just seems like it was all for nothing. And the Taliban even brag about the fact.

[Orange Joe]

what i want to know is how the US didn't eradicate the Taliban. It feels like we had troops there do nothing or sometimes get pot shots in. Besides nuclear weapons, the US obviously has the most advanced and terrifying military in the world. We have WMDs less destructive than nukes but just as scary on paper.

it just seems like it was all for nothing. And the Taliban even brag about the fact.

Because we gave them perfect recruiting material. "Come fight off the evil invaders."

[Edge-]

what i want to know is how the US didn't eradicate the Taliban.

I dunno, you could like, read up on the wars in Afghanistan and how no western power has been able to accomplish shit.

It feels like we had troops there do nothing or sometimes get pot shots in.

Because dealing with local resistance fighters isn't a specialty of the US armed forces. Remember Vietnam?

Besides nuclear weapons, the US obviously has the most advanced and terrifying military in the world. We have WMDs less destructive than nukes but just as scary on paper.

So what do you propose? Glassing the whole country? Carpet bombing the whole thing with conventional ordinance? Civilian death toll be damned?

it just seems like it was all for nothing. And the Taliban even brag about the fact.

It was. It happens. Welcome to life.

[Orange Joe]

So what do you propose? Glassing the whole country? Carpet bombing the whole thing with conventional ordinance? Civilian death toll be damned?

How dare we let the taliban kill them and not bomb them to hell ourselves.


Right @YUPPIE?

[Kellhound]

what i want to know is how the US didn't eradicate the Taliban. It feels like we had troops there do nothing or sometimes get pot shots in. Besides nuclear weapons, the US obviously has the most advanced and terrifying military in the world. We have WMDs less destructive than nukes but just as scary on paper.

it just seems like it was all for nothing. And the Taliban even brag about the fact.

You cannot eradicate an insurrection by force short of total genocide. You have to get the populace to put down the insurrection.

Nuclear weapons are the most predictable WMDs, chemical weapons are less predictable (significantly so in some cases), and biological weapons are just bat shit crazy to even think of using...

[PfeffermintShake]

Does the most progressive person on the internet also think of Biden in terms of FDR?

He responded: “This is the most significant piece of legislation passed since the Great Depression, and I'm delighted to be part of having helped to put it together. a lot of work remains.”

The Senate Budget Committee reached agreement on $3.5 trillion infrastructure plan to go through reconciliation by the end of the year.

[YUPPIE]

You cannot eradicate an insurrection by force short of total genocide. You have to get the populace to put down the insurrection.

Nuclear weapons are the most predictable WMDs, chemical weapons are less predictable (significantly so in some cases), and biological weapons are just bat shit crazy to even think of using...

not joking, by genocide, do you mean everyone in the region. Because if genocide only applies to the Taliban, that's a good thing.

Anyone that denies that doesn't know the true horrors propagated by the Taliban. They aren't human in their depravity. Everything about the Taliban and their culture needs to be eradicated.

And to the person that said some things go wrong and that's life: the fact Biden withdrew is a huge blow to democracy around the world and makes the US look pathetic.

[DarkTZeratul]

not joking, by genocide, do you mean everyone in the region. Because if genocide only applies to the Taliban, that's a good thing.

Yes, everyone in the region. What, do you think members of the Taliban are walking around with giant signs that say "I'm With the Taliban" so we can conveniently know exactly who to kill?

Anyone that denies that doesn't know the true horrors propagated by the Taliban. They aren't human in their depravity. Everything about the Taliban and their culture needs to be eradicated.

I'm fairly confident you are conflating the Taliban with ISIS, and you really shouldn't because they're two entirely different groups.

And to the person that said some things go wrong and that's life: the fact Biden withdrew is a huge blow to democracy around the world and makes the US look pathetic.

It isn't, and it doesn't. And you do know that Trump started the withdrawal, right?

[Bodakane]

Who cares about the taliban.....when the biggest threat to America (and therefore a good bit of the rest of the world) is: (pick your favorite term)
- Y'all Qaeda
- Mullet Militia
- Camaro Continentals
- Nattyicetionalists
- Trumpanzees
- Magafia
- Inbred Infantry
- Big Trucker Uncle Fuckers
- Police

[Kellhound]

not joking, by genocide, do you mean everyone in the region. Because if genocide only applies to the Taliban, that's a good thing.

Anyone that denies that doesn't know the true horrors propagated by the Taliban. They aren't human in their depravity. Everything about the Taliban and their culture needs to be eradicated.

And to the person that said some things go wrong and that's life: the fact Biden withdrew is a huge blow to democracy around the world and makes the US look pathetic.

How do you suppose to kill only the Taliban while not driving others into their ranks?

[YUPPIE]

How do you suppose to kill only the Taliban while not driving others into their ranks?

extremely aggressive occupation followed by cultural genocide like with what China is doing to their ethnic minorities, but here it's clearly a good thing considering it's the Taliban.

[uuuhname]

practically genocide and then permanent occupation to make it a US asset. Sure its cultural genocide but it's the Taliban. Then the unfortunate people can get an idea of how much better US democracy is than being tortured and murdered for being a woman or non-straight.

you. barely a page ago.

i dont know if you guys are paying attention, but look at what the Taliban are doing right now on liveleak and r/taliban. They're pretty much committing genocide the moment we withdrew and it makes me wonder if Biden or his administration feels bad about it? Like, it's horrible. We willingly withdrew knowing this would happen too.

not very serious, are you?

[YUPPIE]

you. barely a page ago.


not very serious, are you?

the taliban are literally massacring innocent people by droves.

if we went on a warpath to destroy every trace of the taliban, i think external casualities from such a conflict would be worth it if they of course do the occupation bit after to ensure no one rises up with the ideologies.

[PhaelixWW]

the taliban are literally massacring innocent people by droves.

if we went on a warpath to destroy every trace of the taliban, i think external casualities from such a conflict would be worth it if they of course do the occupation bit after to ensure no one rises up with the ideologies.

You're so incredibly naive that it's painful to read.

How exactly do you see "destroying every trace of the Taliban" going?

[uuuhname]

You're so incredibly naive that it's painful to read.

How exactly do you see "destroying every trace of the Taliban" going?

it's so absurd I refuse to believe that person is being serious.

[Calfredd]

You're so incredibly naive that it's painful to read.

How exactly do you see "destroying every trace of the Taliban" going?

it's so absurd I refuse to believe that person is being serious.

If you really want to figure out if he's serious or not, read his Created Thread history because I still can't tell if he's serious or not.

[YUPPIE]

You're so incredibly naive that it's painful to read.

How exactly do you see "destroying every trace of the Taliban" going?

if the US cared enough for the end results, good I would say.

We can definitely do a permanent occupation and cultural genocide.

But the difference I see with the US now to WW2 is these days we care a lot about the individual lives of our troops, to the point where even one person lost is seen as a colossal blow. That's not really a bad thing but during WW2 the amount of casualities were indicative we were willing to do whatever it took to reach our goals.

If that sounds sociopathic, that REALLY seems to be the reason Biden withdrew.

[Calfredd]

if the US cared enough for the end results, good I would say.

We can definitely do a permanent occupation and cultural genocide.

But the difference I see with the US now to WW2 is these days we care a lot about the individual lives of our troops, to the point where even one person lost is seen as a colossal blow. That's not really a bad thing but during WW2 the amount of casualities were indicative we were willing to do whatever it took to reach our goals.

If that sounds sociopathic, that REALLY seems to be the reason Biden withdrew.

I would most certainly say that all of your "solutions" in both this thread and others is quite sociopathic. You're the kind of person the other sociopath Derpkitteh would love to "reprogram and make better" and I'll gladly take any infractions for saying so.

[PhaelixWW]

if the US cared enough for the end results, good I would say.

Lol, nope, you can't even say it.

But the difference I see with the US now to WW2 is these days we care a lot about the individual lives of our troops, to the point where even one person lost is seen as a colossal blow. That's not really a bad thing but during WW2 the amount of casualities were indicative we were willing to do whatever it took to reach our goals.

The Taliban is nowhere near the kind of threat that Nazi Germany represented at the time. The idea is ludicrous.

If that sounds sociopathic...

Uh, yes, you absolutely sound sociopathic when you advocate for genocide.

[Kellhound]

extremely aggressive occupation followed by cultural genocide like with what China is doing to their ethnic minorities, but here it's clearly a good thing considering it's the Taliban.

So basically, you want to kill off most (likely all) Afghanis in order to "liberate" Afghanistan. That would violate pretty much every international rule of war, the UCMJ, and would make the US literally WORSE than the Taliban.

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the taliban are literally massacring innocent people by droves.

if we went on a warpath to destroy every trace of the taliban, i think external casualities from such a conflict would be worth it if they of course do the occupation bit after to ensure no one rises up with the ideologies.

I seriously hope this is all in jest. You are saying to contain a tree on fire by burning down the entire forest around it....

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if the US cared enough for the end results, good I would say.

We can definitely do a permanent occupation and cultural genocide.

But the difference I see with the US now to WW2 is these days we care a lot about the individual lives of our troops, to the point where even one person lost is seen as a colossal blow. That's not really a bad thing but during WW2 the amount of casualities were indicative we were willing to do whatever it took to reach our goals.

If that sounds sociopathic, that REALLY seems to be the reason Biden withdrew.

The only way to occupy Afghanistan long term is to either remove the power behind the Taliban or to literally kill pretty much every man, woman, and child living there.