Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Theodarzna]

Your fake outrage at Democrat austerity is noted.

Given that the Democrats love of austerity is just a matter of historical and present fact, that really isn't fake outrage. Our you claiming the Democrats aren't for austerity, or that I don't care about austerity? It is not really clear what you are talking about.

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Just check the Trump megathread.

Why on Earth would I go into that thread and discuss Trump? You guys seem to have that covered pretty dang well.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Why on Earth would I go into that thread and discuss Trump? You guys seem to have that covered pretty dang well.

Why would you come in here when there's plenty of conservatives shilling out the same old tired lines about Biden?

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that really isn't fake outrage.

Your lack of any comment on Trump gutting the social security fund says otherwise. It's fake outrage if you can't even lift a finger over the man who has taken one of the biggest steps of austerity in modern history, and then cry about "precedent" and what Biden "might" do.

[Theodarzna]

Why would you come in here when there's plenty of conservatives shilling out the same old tired lines about Biden?

Because I am not convinced Biden will do things I political want? Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect? Also Biden I believe is becoming president in January right?

What? Is this the designated Biden-Harris Cheerleading page?

Your lack of any comment on Trump...

Trump isn't going to be president, Also you guys got that covered.

[Edge-]

Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect?

Both of which are...not in the authority of the Executive branch. I mean, even if he did support M4A it wouldn't matter. Congress needs to pass M4A, and Congress has to approve any trade deals for them to be formalized.

[beanman12345]

Because I am not convinced Biden will do things I political want? Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect? Also Biden I believe is becoming president in January right?

What? Is this the designated Biden-Harris Cheerleading page?



Trump isn't going to be president, Also you guys got that covered.

Universal healthcare isn't something that Biden or Bernie or your beloved Tulsi could just sign into law via executive order. Congress is the overwhelming bulk of that, since they control the purse strings. Like as much as I love Bernie, I am aware enough to know that getting M4A is nothing but a pipedream at this stage of where the country is. Why are you not aware of this? Like we can't even get a stimulus package done, and you think we're gonna get universal healthcare? The best we will get is extending coverage to what we already have, and if we can get a public option in, the floodgates can start to open, but public option is entirely dependent on congress not obstructing it.

[Theodarzna]

Both of which are...not in the authority of the Executive branch. I mean, even if he did support M4A it wouldn't matter. Congress needs to pass M4A, and Congress has to approve any trade deals for them to be formalized.

One of which Biden vowed to Veto if it ever got to him, and another he has been a massive proponent of and has staffed his administration with supporters of.

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Universal healthcare isn't something that Biden....

Biden declared he'd veto Medicare for All if it came to him.

[beanman12345]

One of which Biden vowed to Veto if it ever got to him, and another he has been a massive proponent of and has staffed his administration with supporters of.

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Biden declared he'd veto Medicare for All if it came to him.

How sad that you think there would actually be a Medicare for All bill for him to even veto in the first place.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Because I am not convinced Biden will do things I political want? Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect? Also Biden I believe is becoming president in January right?

Again, Trump offered nothing to you, and tried to push us in the opposite direction of where you want to be. Meanwhile the DNC is at least laying out a roadmap to universal healthcare. That you don't believe they'll follow through is irrelevant. Note the word "Believe" in that last sentence.

Trump isn't going to be president, Also you guys got that covered.

You seem more than willing to add your two cents where others have already done so about Biden. Why is Biden exceptional to you making 50 posts a day and Trump is not? What's the real reason? Got someone at home who would be very upset seeing you criticize Trump or something? Again, nobody is buying the "you guys got this" or devil's advocate because there are already plenty of people on this forum pretending to be left wing while vomiting up right wing talking points just like you. If your excuse for not criticizing Trump is that others are already doing it, then you really shouldn't be here either now should you?

[Theodarzna]

How sad that you think there would actually be a Medicare for All bill for him to even veto in the first place.

Yes, silly me for wanting what the country of my birth achieved even with cities still in ruins from a devastating war, and with no computers even.

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Again, Trump offered nothing to you,

Good thing I didn't vote for Donald Trump then.

[beanman12345]

Yes, silly me for wanting what the country of my birth achieved even with cities still in ruins from a devastating war, and with no computers even.

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Good thing I didn't vote for Donald Trump then.

You know there is a difference between wanting something and living with the reality of the situation. You having some way out there wishful thinking, is yes you being if you want to say, "silly." it's more delusional, but whatever you want to think to yourself. Again, if your beloved Tulsi was president, you still wouldn't be getting M4A, there would be no bill for her to pass.

[Masark]

Good thing I didn't vote for Donald Trump then.

We don't believe you.

[Theodarzna]

We don't believe you.

Cool, I don't care if you do. I don't believe that most of you have any political beliefs beyond a kind of fandom loyalty, like brand fanatics.

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You know there is a difference between wanting something and living with the reality of the situation. You having some way out there wishful thinking, is yes you being if you want to say, "silly." it's more delusional, but whatever you want to think to yourself. Again, if your beloved Tulsi was president, you still wouldn't be getting M4A, there would be no bill for her to pass.

His vow to veto it is a pretty strong signal of "I ain't for this". What? Should I be overjoyed for a guy who literally said he would veto this issue?

[beanman12345]

Cool, I don't care if you do. I don't believe that most of you have any political beliefs beyond a kind of fandom loyalty, like brand fanatics.

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His vow to veto it is a pretty strong signal of "I ain't for this". What? Should I be overjoyed for a guy who literally said he would veto this issue?

I don't care if your overjoyed or not. I want m4a too, reality is, it isnt happening. It wasn't gonna happen this cycle at the very least, ever. Ill take the compromise of trump not being in 4 more years trying to take away protections for those of us with pre-existing conditions, and destroying coverage of people with Medicaid. I mean Medicaid isn't exactly the most amazing as is, But it sure is better now then it was pre-aca. m4a will never happen while the people you shill for have power in congress.

But whatever you go continue crying for M4A while you shill for people who want to take health care away from American's.

[Theodarzna]

I want m4a too, reality is, it isnt happening.

See the juxtaposition shows me that you only say you want it because it is what you are expected to say. You have to performative say that, but then you counter it with "Well its not happening, so it doesn't matter", which to me suggests this isn't a priority for you. Which is fine, but maybe just acknowledge "You know, I don't care enough about this issue."

Like someone saying "Well maybe in 60 years we will get around to it", I don't think saying "Well of-course I'm for it, in theory, but I don't care enough to like advocate for it, demand it, or push for it in any way that matters" is about as good as "I don't support this".

t wasn't gonna happen this cycle at the very least, ever.

Cool? So its not a priority for you.

Ill take the compromise of trump not being in 4 more years

Then rejoice! You got exactly what you wanted. If your only concern was "Not Trump" great. For my simply "Not Trump" isn't really good enough. I mean George Bush was also NOT TRUMP, and infinitely worse in every respect I can think of that a normal person would consider relevant.

m4a will never happen while the people you shill for have power in congress.

Who have I shilled for? I said Josh Hawley was the only meaningful person in the Senate GOP caucus and the rest were not worth remembering? Or is the definition of shilling a "YOU DON'T STAN NANCY PELOSI!". I think you maybe labor under this delusion that YOU represent the party and its celebrities, that you gotta stan for them and the thought of holding them accountable or demanding something for your vote is an unthinkable act.

shill for people who want to take health care away from American's.

Yeah, Obamacare was a terrible plan that pissed people off. Why? Because it amounted to "Now you must buy an overpriced, substandard product!" Yeah, I'm not going to jump for joy that Aetna and Bluecross have a mandated customer base.

[Cthulhu 2020]

"Why didn't you complain about Donald Trump for 4 years?"

"Because you guys were already doing it."

"There's lots of people complaining about Biden and you're saying the same thing that many of them are, so why are you bothering to complain in 50 posts a day if other people are already doing it?"

"Biden is going to be president."

"So why didn't you complain about Donald Trump fucking up any chance at left wing policy getting through?"

"Because you guys were already doing it."

Do me a favor @Theodarzna and google "Circular Logic"

[beanman12345]

See the juxtaposition shows me that you only say you want it because it is what you are expected to say. You have to performative say that, but then you counter it with "Well its not happening, so it doesn't matter", which to me suggests this isn't a priority for you. Which is fine, but maybe just acknowledge "You know, I don't care enough about this issue."

Like someone saying "Well maybe in 60 years we will get around to it", I don't think saying "Well of-course I'm for it, in theory, but I don't care enough to like advocate for it, demand it, or push for it in any way that matters" is about as good as "I don't support this".



Cool? So its not a priority for you.



Then rejoice! You got exactly what you wanted. If your only concern was "Not Trump" great. For my simply "Not Trump" isn't really good enough. I mean George Bush was also NOT TRUMP, and infinitely worse in every respect I can think of that a normal person would consider relevant.



Who have I shilled for? I said Josh Hawley was the only meaningful person in the Senate GOP caucus and the rest were not worth remembering? Or is the definition of shilling a "YOU DON'T STAN NANCY PELOSI!". I think you maybe labor under this delusion that YOU represent the party and its celebrities, that you gotta stan for them and the thought of holding them accountable or demanding something for your vote is an unthinkable act.



Yeah, Obamacare was a terrible plan that pissed people off. Why? Because it amounted to "Now you must buy an overpriced, substandard product!" Yeah, I'm not going to jump for joy that Aetna and Bluecross have a mandated customer base.

So me living in reality means something isn't a priority for me? okay.

IDK why i'm even talking to you about this, you want M4A about as much as Trump does. You just using this as something to bitch about the Dem's, cause your are every bit as partisan towards the RNC as you think we are to the DNC.

[Theodarzna]

"Why didn't you complain about Donald Trump for 4 years?"

"Because you guys were already doing it."

"There's lots of people complaining about Biden and you're saying the same thing that many of them are, so why are you bothering to complain in 50 posts a day if other people are already doing it?"

"Biden is going to be president."

"So why didn't you complain about Donald Trump fucking up any chance at left wing policy getting through?"

"Because you guys were already doing it."

Do me a favor @Theodarzna and google "Circular Logic"

Here is an easy one. Why would I spend four years screeching about Trump on a forum that is, based on the regular posters here, filled with people who do that every five minutes. Most of you have spent the better part of four years in a perpetual Trump monitoring threads. Its the main topic of discussion. Who on Earth would I be discussing with? What "Trump bad", I mean first, who is seeing it other than people who agree with that message? Plus the reasons you dislike Trump are unrelated to mine, for you people its "He was rude, broke Norms, lacked Decorum!", I just as a second point see most of your dislike of Trump to be about as deep as a Giants fan hating the LA Dodgers. Sure its passionately felt, but its meaningless and shallow.

Did you need yet ANOTHER person to add to that?

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So me living in reality means something isn't a priority for me? okay.

IDK why i'm even talking to you about this, you want M4A about as much as Trump does. You just using this as something to bitch about the Dem's, cause your are every bit as partisan towards the RNC as you think we are to the DNC.

Issues either matter to you or they don't.

And as has been noted, I've criticized the RNC and called Republicans generally worthless and strongly suggested Barr and Trump were very directly involved in killing Jeffrey Epstein, so IDK where you get this.

[szechuan]

Here is an easy one. Why would I spend four years screeching about Trump on a forum that is, based on the regular posters here, filled with people who do that every five minutes. Most of you have spent the better part of four years in a perpetual Trump monitoring threads.

Yet you ignore and support him.

Plus the reasons you dislike Trump are unrelated to mine, for you people its "He was rude, broke Norms, lacked Decorum!", I just as a second point see most of your dislike of Trump to be about as deep as a Giants fan hating the LA Dodgers. Sure its passionately felt, but its meaningless and shallow.

Yet again ignoring that he's a Racist and supports the Proud Boys.

[beanman12345]

Here is an easy one. Why would I spend four years screeching about Trump on a forum that is, based on the regular posters here, filled with people who do that every five minutes. Most of you have spent the better part of four years in a perpetual Trump monitoring threads. Its the main topic of discussion. Who on Earth would I be discussing with? What "Trump bad", I mean first, who is seeing it other than people who agree with that message? Plus the reasons you dislike Trump are unrelated to mine, for you people its "He was rude, broke Norms, lacked Decorum!", I just as a second point see most of your dislike of Trump to be about as deep as a Giants fan hating the LA Dodgers. Sure its passionately felt, but its meaningless and shallow.

Did you need yet ANOTHER person to add to that?

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Issues either matter to you or they don't.

And as has been noted, I've criticized the RNC and called Republicans generally worthless and strongly suggested Barr and Trump were very directly involved in killing Jeffrey Epstein, so IDK where you get this.

right, issues matter to someone or they don't. M4A matters to me, and it doesn't for you. The only thing that matters to you is crapping on your partisan opposition, the DNC.

and where did I get that you are a RNC partisan? The same place everyone else has, right here on MMOC, where you have been shilling for Trump and the RNC for the past however many years you've been posting on this subforum.

I mean, your posting is bland boring and not deep, it's so bad you have to plagiarize. You are transparent. It doesn't matter if you admit it or deny it, anyone with a basic reading comprehension has figured this out about you loooong ago.

I mean here is the answer to your own question, in the other post you replied to that I am also quoting. Why would you criticize someone you don't like when everyone else is criticizing him? The answer is simple, because you like him, hence why you haven't spent years criticizing him, for anything, because you don't have a need to, because you are a loyal supporter of his.

[Wilfire]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.