Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Huehuecoyotl]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Diplomats might not be criticising Trump, but that's because they are, well, diplomatic. It's their jobs. But foreign politicians would be a good representation of how Trump was viewed, and I could link you a video of a whole room full of them flat out laughing at him. That's a reflection of what the world thinks of Trump. How you imagine it in your little world doesn't change reality, however hard you wish for it.

[MENTION=1221342]It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable.

Okay, I'll bite. What policy? You do know he just ran an election on zero policies, don't you? He was asked multiple times to say what he was going to do if reelected, and he failed to come up with a single thing. I can link multiple videos of him being asked softball questions by friendly interviewers and bumbling through a world salad of a response without a single coherant policy.

So please, enlighten me. What policies are your cheerleading here? And if you do come up with anything, explain why he has made so little progress on them for the 4 years he's been president.

[postman1782]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

No, they don't. Most of them are laughing at him like the fucking petulant child that he is. His policy isn't anything but racist bullshit.

[Orange Joe]

Cool, I don't care if you do. I don't believe that most of you have any political beliefs beyond a kind of fandom loyalty, like brand fanatics.

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His vow to veto it is a pretty strong signal of "I ain't for this". What? Should I be overjoyed for a guy who literally said he would veto this issue?

Says the person repeating alt right talking points lmfao

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See the juxtaposition shows me that you only say you want it because it is what you are expected to say. You have to performative say that, but then you counter it with "Well its not happening, so it doesn't matter", which to me suggests this isn't a priority for you. Which is fine, but maybe just acknowledge "You know, I don't care enough about this issue."

Like someone saying "Well maybe in 60 years we will get around to it", I don't think saying "Well of-course I'm for it, in theory, but I don't care enough to like advocate for it, demand it, or push for it in any way that matters" is about as good as "I don't support this".



Cool? So its not a priority for you.

By this logic.... if you want to call anything you spew as logic.... It's not a priority for you either. You didn't say a word about it while Trump was in office. (there is a word for this that seems to be a common descriptor for you too.)

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@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Name them and provide some proof. Cause I'm calling a huge pile of steaming BS.

[JohnBrown1917]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Nah, everybody on the left also hates his guts. But you go and enjoy bootlicking the rich coastal elite becease he panders to your racist views. Its all you have left now that he lost.

[Dontrike]

Or maybe Proud Boys aren't as racist as you think? Ever thought about that? Why would an ethnic man perpetuate racism against himself?

Cause stupid people are stupid.

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Because I am not convinced Biden will do things I political want? Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect? Also Biden I believe is becoming president in January right?

What? Is this the designated Biden-Harris Cheerleading page?

That's weird, you seemed to like Trump even though eh wouldn't do any of that either.

[Belize]

Because I am not convinced Biden will do things I political want? Like Universal Health Care, staying out of ruinous global trade deals, ect? Also Biden I believe is becoming president in January right?

Let us know where The Wall tm, Infrastructure Week, bigliest healthcare, Covid being gone by April because it's just 1 person coming from China, manufacturing jobs being brought back, etc, etc are before clutching your pearls about Biden

Stick to copy and pasting opinions that are pre-written by someone else. You're obviously unable to formulate an argument with any merit or standing by yourself.

[Dontrike]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

That's a whole lot of words just to say "watch me lie and be wrong."

[Skulltaker]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Most foreign diplomats laugh at him. The ones that don't are the ones profiting from him. His pal Putin, for example. And even he probably makes fun of Trump, just like Zookeepers will make fun of a retarded monkey.

Trump doesn't have a policy.

You are right with the criticism part, of course. Since Trump's entire life has not produced anything of substance, and yes, that includes his children, we can only mock his riddiculous person. The second Trump produces anything noteworthy I'll be sure to recognize that. So far, all he has to his name is failure and posturing.

[Teriz]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Eh... Trump is the laughing stock of the world. The only reason diplomats deal with him at all is because he represents the most powerful country on the planet, and even then, they prefer to deal with his more mature underlings instead. They're very much looking forward to Biden taking over next month.

[Machismo]

@Theodarzna keep fighting the good fight, most foreign diplomats see Trump's style as very effective and bold rather than undisciplined or rude. It's only Libs who hate him because his policy is impeccable. When there's nothing of substance to criticize, criticism turns to personal style or purely subjective views like what's a harsh border control policy vs. what's racism.

Ummm... no they do not. They literally fucking laughed at him.

You Trumpsters really need to come up with better lies.

[Felya]

Eh... Trump is the laughing stock of the world. The only reason diplomats deal with him at all is because he represents the most powerful country on the planet, and even then, they prefer to deal with his more mature underlings instead. They're very much looking forward to Biden taking over next month.

He means Russia, North Korea and Turkey...

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It matters, but there is a far more direct causal relationship between "I want to bomb Libya" and Libya being in ruins with open air slave markets, versus Government response and Pandemic deaths.

One of which Biden vowed to Veto if it ever got to him, and another he has been a massive proponent of and has staffed his administration with supporters of.

Why do you support Medicare for all?

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-medicare-all/

A viral tweet said, "Joe Biden just told @Lawrence that as president he would veto Medicare for All if it passed both houses and came to his desk."

Biden’s response on MSNBC was not as definitive as the post made it seem.

Biden replied that he "would veto anything that delays providing the security and the certainty of health care being available now." He said if it passed, he would want to look at the costs and the impact on the budget and taxes for the middle class.

To put it another way, Biden only had critical words when asked about Medicare for All, but he didn’t bluntly state he would veto it.

The statement is partially accurate but takes things out of context. We rate this statement Half True.

You know how you were freaking out that Palosi said to give GOP what they asked for, so workers at least had unemployment insurance, instead of nothing. This is what he meant... you can chastise him for being foolish to believe republicans are acting in bad faith and that they won’t even get the unemployment if they continue to compromise. But... you won’t do that... you will attack democrats, instead of those blocking the aid.

When people tell you that it will not pass SCOTUS, who do you think is the problem? Biden or republicans?

Edit: Why does Trump get the ‘not as direct connection to healthcare’, while Biden saying is much, is treated like he doesn’t support M4A? Biden is agreeing with you when you talk about Trump, but obviously disagrees with you when you talk of Biden. What’s with the double standard? Trump is the one that appointed a Supreme Court making it impossible, not Biden...

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How can the same person support Medicare for all, while downplaying casualties of covid? That doesn’t make any sense... If healthcare doesn’t mater when it comes to covid, when does it mater?

[DKjaigen]

Yet again ignoring that he's a Racist and supports the Proud Boys.

Go worry about things that actually matter not this useless crap.

[Felya]

Go worry about things that actually matter not this useless crap.

Like over turning the election, instead of Covid?

Other than refusing an additional 100 million vaccine doses, what is Trump’s covid plan? Biden has one...

[DKjaigen]

How can the same person support Medicare for all, while downplaying casualties of covid? That doesn’t make any sense... If healthcare doesn’t mater when it comes to covid, when does it mater?

Europe and in particular countries like the netherlands, germany or sweden have some of the best free medical services. Yet Covid is still a problem. A free medical system will not fix covid because at the moment theire is no cure or treatment for covid. What you need is discipline and thats what is sadly lacking at the moment.

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Like over turning the election, instead of Covid?

Other than refusing an additional 100 million vaccine doses, what is Trump’s covid plan? Biden has one...

Oh yes bidens plans. Cannot wait untill he fucks over the economy even further and kill smalbusinessesen even more.

[Belize]

Europe and in particular countries like the netherlands, germany or sweden have some of the best free medical services. Yet Covid is still a problem. A free medical system will not fix covid because at the moment theire is no cure or treatment for covid. What you need is discipline and thats what is sadly lacking at the moment.

Thanks MAGAts and Conservatives for spreading Covid like wildfire, and being unable to survive more than 3 days without going to Applebee's

[Edge-]

Europe and in particular countries like the netherlands, germany or sweden have some of the best free medical services.

They do pay for them in their taxes.

A free medical system will not fix covid because at the moment theire is no cure or treatment for covid.

No, but it prevents people from staying away from the doctor in case they don't have insurance. It prevents people from going in for treatment because they're worried about a bill that's tens/hundreds of thousands.

It's not a fix. It's an improvement.

[DKjaigen]

It does fucking matter. We’ve had a real problem with domestic terrorism and Trump exacerbates it. See the stabbing victims this past weekend.

Who cares if antifa gets the comeuppance they fully deserve. You seem like a person who looks under his bed for racists.

[Edge-]

Who cares if antifa gets the comeuppance they fully deserve. You seem like a person who looks under his bed for racists.

Antifa wasn't out on the streets looking for, and creating, fights this weekend, from what I saw.

Proud Boys were.

[DKjaigen]

They do pay for them in their taxes.



No, but it prevents people from staying away from the doctor in case they don't have insurance. It prevents people from going in for treatment because they're worried about a bill that's tens/hundreds of thousands.

It's not a fix. It's an improvement.

Their is no treatment for covid. And if you are so ill you need to stay in the hospital its likely an ambulance brought you there. If its an improvement its a very minor improvement.

[Edge-]

Their is no treatment for covid. And if you are so ill you need to stay in the hospital its likely an ambulance brought you there. If its an improvement its a very minor improvement.

If you don't have insurance, you're not calling an ambulance. Or going in to get tested/treatment.

This is a significant improvement across the board. Letting health issues fester because of financial concerns has huge downstream effects.