Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[JohnBrown1917]

You mean the science of mask mandates that the guy you support wants? You support Biden, you support his policies. Mask mandates forever.

You mean use masks in the same way the far east does? Because that sounds like a good idea.

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Want to hear about a great deal for the Democratic party?

Tesla chief executive Elon Musk hinted Friday that a 'F8ck Elon Musk' tweet posted by State Assembly member Lorena Gonzalez in May 2020 inspired him to move the company to Texas.

He plans on building a plant in Texas + HQ which is going to bring thousands of jobs to the State. Who will be the likely recipients of those jobs? Why, Liberals.

In the end, the final nail in the coffin that finally turns Texas Blue could be a California Liberal tweeting her disdain for Elon Musk.

How long will it take to get the plant up and operational? He's hoping for a similar timeline to Giga Shanghai which was up and running in 11 months and reached peak production in 12 months.

Construction on the plant has been under way for a couple months now.

That timeline puts it's construction and will make it operational just in time for the 2022 Midterms!

That really makes no sense, all musk cares for is that that the people he hires don't form unions/work long hours. Politics is irrelevant.

[Mihalik]

You mean the science of mask mandates that the guy you support wants? You support Biden, you support his policies. Mask mandates forever.

If you and your ilk would just get the damned vaccine already we wouldn't need the mask mandates.

Note how pretty much most of Europe has done away with masking altogether by now in any meaningful way.

I've been to 6 concerts, and like a dozen nightclubs in the past about 3 months and as vaccination rates started getting into the 70% area we were seeing fewer and fewer masks.

Cuz you know... Vaccines.

But I guess not dying to preventable disease is pure fucking communism now. Or whatnot.

One of the most endlessly annoying thing about being an American living in Europe is having to endlessly explain to confused and mildly concerned foreigners whatever flavor of the month dumb shittery is coming out of the US.

I know that right wingers love wallowing in ignorance, but you guys are right when you're saying the world is laughing at us. What you're not getting tho is that they are laughing AT YOU.

It's just in the last few years the amused laughter has slowly turned into concerned laughter as you all devolved into a death cult.

[Nastard]

If you and your ilk would just get the damned vaccine already we wouldn't need the mask mandates.

This chucklehead would've been complaining about seatbelts laws when they were enacted. Though I suppose with how thin his skin is, the strap would cut into his delicate flesh.

[Kaleredar]

This chucklehead would've been complaining about seatbelts laws when they were enacted. Though I suppose with how thin his skin is, the strap would cut into his delicate flesh.

I actually liken the vaccine more to drunk driving laws.

See if this sounds familiar: "Why shouldn't I be allowed to drive drunk? Isn't it my option to do with my body what I want? I accept the risks of driving drunk. If other people want to drive in public, they should have to accept the risks they face too. They want to oppress my freedoms just to feel safer. But you have to accept the risks in life, and those risks might include drunk driving. People will drive drunk with or without the laws in place, and more people die of other things than drunk driving. Of course people will tell you it's dangerous to drive drunk, they want to sell you seatbelts and airbags and expensive new cars and justify cops pulling over and oppressing people and collecting fines from hardworking people who just wanted to have a fun time and not have to worry about being inconvenienced with a designated driver or getting an Uber. But I've never personally known someone that's been in a drunk driving accident, and I've never been in one, so obviously it's over exaggerated. Why, I heard Joe Rogan say..."

It's practically no different than people refusing to wear a mask or refusing to get the vaccine. Because not only do you risk personal harm, but there is a clear and evident danger you pose to others as well.

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If you and your ilk would just get the damned vaccine already we wouldn't need the mask mandates.

Note how pretty much most of Europe has done away with masking altogether by now in any meaningful way.

I've been to 6 concerts, and like a dozen nightclubs in the past about 3 months and as vaccination rates started getting into the 70% area we were seeing fewer and fewer masks.

Cuz you know... Vaccines.

But I guess not dying to preventable disease is pure fucking communism now. Or whatnot.

One of the most endlessly annoying thing about being an American living in Europe is having to endlessly explain to confused and mildly concerned foreigners whatever flavor of the month dumb shittery is coming out of the US.

I know that right wingers love wallowing in ignorance, but you guys are right when you're saying the world is laughing at us. What you're not getting tho is that they are laughing AT YOU.

It's just in the last few years the amused laughter has slowly turned into concerned laughter as you all devolved into a death cult.

My family and I visited family in Norway in 2016, before the election. They expressed concern with Trump and were hopeful that Bernie Sanders might be a legitimate choice. We assured them, as best we could, that while Bernie would likely not secure the nomination, that Hillary would prove a fine president and that Trump was a forgettable moron.

I am so immensely sorry to them.

I find it funny, in a sardonic kind of way, about Trump later going on to say that, in so many words, he wasn't against immigration, it's just that he only wanted immigrants from the white "good" countries (I believe he named Norway specifically) to come over. Which of course prompted me to wonder why, in the ever loving fuck, would someone from Norway want to live in Donald Trump's America?

[PhaelixWW]

It's practically no different than people refusing to wear a mask or refusing to get the vaccine. Because not only do you risk personal harm, but there is a clear and evident danger you pose to others as well.

Man, stop being such a slave to Big Seatbelt!

[Good Hasbara]

TexasRules...bruh, you don't have to create a novelty account with the goal of making Texans look retarded. They already do a good job of that on their own.

[bladeXcrasher]

They’d need to change the law. You can’t buy direct from the manufacturer with cars in Texas. Period.

Never gonna happen as long as Republicans run the state.

[Ivanstone]

why, in the ever loving fuck, would someone from Norway want to live in Donald Trump's America?

Norway has its wingnuts, edgelords and assholes too.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Beltway press carrying water for the GOP?
Here's Politico using the "some people are saying" ... but really it's just "GOP is saying this thing, we hope its true cuz we bored again".



Gretchen Weiner writes.

[Breccia]

Here's Politico using the "some people are saying"

Just a reminder, anyone who complains about the Biden family pulling strings (which at this point is guesswork) must also complain about the Trump family pulling strings. Anything else would be hypocrisy.

[Edge-]

Beltway press carrying water for the GOP?

You could at least link to the article as well - https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ruption-515583

Seems like Ben is trying to sell his book about the Bidens. Most of it seems to be along these lines -

While Joe Biden served as ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Hunter and James Biden acquired the hedge fund firm Paradigm. The former chief compliance officer of the firm has said that James Biden spoke to him of plans to solicit investments from foreign entities who wanted to be supportive of Joe Biden but were legally barred from donating to American political campaigns.

A representative for James Biden has said no such conversation took place, and there is no evidence that Paradigm landed investments from foreign interests.

Three former Paradigm executives have also said that James and Hunter hoped to capitalize on their family’s political alliance with organized labor to land investments from union groups for Paradigm. There is no evidence they succeeded in landing such investments for Paradigm.

Claim

Debunked

It's a pretty common theme throughout the piece.

[Breccia]

"There is no evidence they succeeded in landing such investments for Paradigm."

But I thought they admitted in public they got all the finances they needed from the Russians?

Oh shit, I was thinking about the Trumps. My bad.

[AntiFascistVoter]

Just a reminder, anyone who complains about the Biden family pulling strings (which at this point is guesswork) must also complain about the Trump family pulling strings. Anything else would be hypocrisy.

The political media is desperately trying to make this a thing that people care about. They acted as if they were powerless to make any Trump corruption scandal stick, but when they really want to (see: Emails), they will doggedly stay on it.

[TexasRules]

If you and your ilk would just get the damned vaccine already we wouldn't need the mask mandates.

Note how pretty much most of Europe has done away with masking altogether by now in any meaningful way.

I've been to 6 concerts, and like a dozen nightclubs in the past about 3 months and as vaccination rates started getting into the 70% area we were seeing fewer and fewer masks.

Cuz you know... Vaccines.

But I guess not dying to preventable disease is pure fucking communism now. Or whatnot.

One of the most endlessly annoying thing about being an American living in Europe is having to endlessly explain to confused and mildly concerned foreigners whatever flavor of the month dumb shittery is coming out of the US.

I know that right wingers love wallowing in ignorance, but you guys are right when you're saying the world is laughing at us. What you're not getting tho is that they are laughing AT YOU.

It's just in the last few years the amused laughter has slowly turned into concerned laughter as you all devolved into a death cult.

I have had my booster shot, so shows how much you generalize everyone. You guys just cant wait to blame when you know nothing. You guys want to follow science, mask mandates do not follow science.

[Orange Joe]

I have had my booster shot, so shows how much you generalize everyone. You guys just cant wait to blame when you know nothing. You guys want to follow science, mask mandates do not follow science.

link the study that says masks don't help.

[Edge-]

You guys want to follow science, mask mandates do not follow science.

We do, you just clearly refuse to accept/understand the science even if you claim to be vaccinated with your booster. The science backs mask mandates as a way to continue to reduce the spread while transmission levels are still high in areas.

[TexasRules]

This chucklehead would've been complaining about seatbelts laws when they were enacted. Though I suppose with how thin his skin is, the strap would cut into his delicate flesh.

Comparing apples to oranges is about right for you. Most people in my area are vaccinated, but keep up the uneducated hyperbole that makes you a Biden supporter. You support a guy who says it's okay to follow a woman into a bathroom and harass her.

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We do, you just clearly refuse to accept/understand the science even if you claim to be vaccinated with your booster. The science backs mask mandates as a way to continue to reduce the spread while transmission levels are still high in areas.

Can you link where scientists or a health organization says mandates should be enforced? With the vaccine you have a 99.7% chance of survivability. You have a better chance of dying from the flu.

[uuuhname]

Comparing apples to oranges.

no, this is comparing Fiji to Granny Smith apples. it's the exact same mentality of claiming "you're rights" are somehow under attack for your own safety, yeah good luck "being free" when you're dead...

[Edge-]

Can you link where scientists or a health organization says mandates should be enforced? With the vaccine you have a 99.7% chance of survivability. You have a better chance of dying from the flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...c-studies-show

You're welcome.

And the "flu is more deadly" meme needs to stop, it's gross misinformation.

[uuuhname]

Can you link where scientists or a health organization says mandates should be enforced? With the vaccine you have a 99.7% chance of survivability. You have a better chance of dying from the flu.

what about those who don't take the vaccine? you know, the 99.95% of people dying of COVID???