Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Shadowferal]

biden is such a strong and competent president that Putin decided to wait till he was in office to invade the Ukraine instead of doing it while his alleged lapdog was still president. Totally makes sense biden is too afraid to even sanction Putin and avoided the question all together. Such a strong leader! I'm sure these new sanctions are going to be so persauvsive like the last ones were.

How's that trucker protest in DC working out?

[Poopymonster]

How's that trucker protest in DC working out?

It was literally that. "A trucker protest", few other vehicles may have been involved and promptly got lost.
From what I've heard the only actual trucker gave a word salad when interviewed then fucked off home already.

It was mentioned here.

[postman1782]

So strong that when asked why he would not put sanctions on Putin, he ignored the question. So strong that he did not put these sanctions on Russia last month to deter this war. Instead he waited until after the invasion to do”stronger sanctions”. But he’s stronger against Putin….he’s just not going to sanction him directly. Because he’s stronger

Trump wasn't going to put sanctions on Putin at all after he tried to kill Skripal. But Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of them, and the Republicans actually had a fucking backbone then against Putin. Now they are sucking Trump and Putin's traitorous cocks.

Trump isn't stronger than anyone.

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biden is such a strong and competent president that Putin decided to wait till he was in office to invade the Ukraine instead of doing it while his alleged lapdog was still president. Totally makes sense

biden is too afraid to even sanction Putin and avoided the question all together. Such a strong leader! I'm sure these new sanctions are going to be so persauvsive like the last ones were.

What is it with fucking Republican traitors on this forum? More Russians are standing up to Putin than Republicans are. Jesus fucking christ.

[Edge-]

Trump isn't stronger than anyone.

Excuse me, have you SEEN all those images of Trump's face photoshopped onto the 80's bods of Stallone and Schwarzenegger? Homeboy is FUCKIN RIPPED apparently!

And needs a golf cart to travel a few hundred feet.

Meanwhile, Biden can ride a fuckin bike. We've never seen Trump on a bike, clearly that means he can't ride a bike. Sad.

[Fugus]

Trump wasn't going to put sanctions on Putin at all after he tried to kill Skripal. But Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of them, and the Republicans actually had a fucking backbone then against Putin. Now they are sucking Trump and Putin's traitorous cocks.

Trump isn't stronger than anyone.

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What is it with fucking Republican traitors on this forum? More Russians are standing up to Putin than Republicans are. Jesus fucking christ.

I think I remember that stuff. Trump was forced to sign sanctions against Russia because it had a veto-proof majority and then just refused to enforce them.

[TexasRules]

So why aren't Republicans in Congress drafting additional sanctions and pushing for passage?
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Because Democrats rejected them in January

[Endus]

Because Democrats rejected them in January

Sanctions over an invasion that hadn't happened yet?

Are you smoking the good weed tonight?

[TexasRules]

“This wouldn’t have happened under Trump!” exhibit #78… circa 2016.

This probably still would have happened under Trump, but it helps that democrats control the white house --see Putin 2008, 2014, he was given leeway after the election, well Obama said he would. Remember when he laughed at Mitt Romney for suggesting Russia was the biggest problem in the world, and the media laughed along with him.

The problem is, Biden could have done sanctions in January, but the democrats voted them down. Now he's doing sanctions AFTER an invasion. And dodging questions on why he won't sanction Putin NOW. Why did he wait to do these"stronger sanctions"? Why is he not including energy, the basis of most of Russia's wealth? It's because Europe is dependent on Russia's energy. It's a good thing the United States is not building pipelines and handing out leases, we don't want to be energy independent either.

Hate to say this, but this is going to embolden China to go after Taiwan.

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Sanctions over an invasion that hadn't happened yet?

Are you smoking the good weed tonight?

Sanctions to stop an invasion.....Are you suggesting we only do sanctions as a reaction and not a detour-ant? Are you that naive or just pretending to be stupid?

Oh wait, you live in a country where they give their leader authoritarian powers. Leading them to confiscate people's trucks and bank accounts because of charges of counseling to commit mischief. In America, you can be a black supremacist, shoot at a Jewish mayoral candidate and get bailed out of jail by BLM for 100k. In Canada if you start a PEACEFUL protest, you get thrown in jail without bail.


As it pertains to Biden, I leave with my quote of the day:

Doocy asked whether the president was “confident” that the U.S. sanctions imposed on Russia Thursday would be “as devastating as Russian missiles and bullets and tanks.”

“Yes — Russian bullets, missiles and tanks in Ukraine — yes I am,” the president responded.

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Sanctions to stop an invasion.....Are you suggesting we only do sanctions as a reaction and not a detour-ant? Are you that naive or just pretending to be stupid?

Pre-emptive and reactive sanctions are different things. That I can tell the difference is not "naivetee".

Oh wait, you live in a country where they give their leader authoritarian powers. Leading them to confiscate people's trucks and bank accounts because of charges of counseling to commit mischief. In America, you can be a black supremacist, shoot at a Jewish mayoral candidate and get bailed out of jail by BLM for 100k. In Canada if you start a PEACEFUL protest, you get thrown in jail without bail.

The convoy occupation was not a "peaceful protest".
Our Prime Minister has no "authoritarian powers".
Confiscation of property used in the commission of treason (or other crimes) is perfectly reasonable.
If bail was offered to someone charged with a crime, and they pay it, that's how that's supposed to work. If you're arguing that person should not have been bailed out, take that up with the court system, not those who funded their bail payment.

You're pushing absolute fucking nonsense. Nothing you're saying is true. You're supporting Nazis and other extremists, and pushing disinformation horseshit to muddy the waters.

[beanman12345]

Pre-emptive and reactive sanctions are different things. That I can tell the difference is not "naivetee".



The convoy occupation was not a "peaceful protest".
Our Prime Minister has no "authoritarian powers".
Confiscation of property used in the commission of treason (or other crimes) is perfectly reasonable.

You're pushing absolute fucking nonsense. Nothing you're saying is true.

Saw a clip on youtube of Cucker Carlson saying all of this almost word for word. Might have been a lincoln project video, forget which tbh. Guess we know he loves the Cucker.

[PhaelixWW]

Because Democrats rejected them in January

If you think lifting sanctions is somehow responsible for the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, then you need to get your head checked out.

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Saw a clip on youtube of Cucker Carlson saying all of this almost word for word. Might have been a lincoln project video, forget which tbh. Guess we know he loves the Cucker.

Speaking as someone who lives just outside fuckin' Ottawa, and is speaking from personal experience, anyone thinking these Nazi fucks were "peaceful protesters" is either lying, or so gullible they'll fall for whatever bullshit their cult leader of choice tells them.

They were waving Nazi flags. They tried to burn down an apartment building and seal everyone inside. They were using psychological warfare tactics. They were repeatedly detonating explosive devices outside people's apartments. They demanded the overthrow of the government and that they should get to pick the new government. They were terrorists, and they were committing treason.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...ection-46.html

Treason
(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;

Clearly covers the actions of these "protesters".

You'll excuse me if I don't have a lot of patience for foreign extremists encouraging violent treason against my nation's democratically-elected government.

[postman1782]

Because Democrats rejected them in January

What sanctions in fucking January?

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Because Democrats rejected them in January

Russia hadn't invaded yet so the sanctions weren't called for. Why aren't they bringing the legislation back and seeking quick bipartisan passage?

You act like the Republican party is incapable of governance, unintentionally. Which, amusingly, is largely correct.

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This probably still would have happened under Trump

9/11 wouldn't have happened under Gore.

See how unprovable and tacky that is?

[PhaelixWW]

What sanctions in fucking January?

The proposed Nord Stream 2 pipeline sanctions.

[Breccia]

The proposed Nord Stream 2 pipeline sanctions.

If this bill passes, it won’t make the Nord Stream pipeline any less likely. It won’t stop Russia from invading Ukraine. In fact, it will do the exact opposite. It will make the completion of Nord Stream more likely, and it will be a gift to Russia, dividing us from our European allies right at the moment when we need to be in solidarity with them in order to deter Russian aggression.

And then Russia invaded, Germany gave the okay, and it was off to the races.

[PhaelixWW]

In new redistricting news, Democrats gained more ground this week.

A North Carolina court rejected the GoP-favored plan in favor of one by a nonpartisan committee, leading to -1 R seat and +1 D seat.

Also, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court decided to accept the map proposed by Democrats, which resulted in -1 R seat.

[Flarelaine]

It's hilarious that you think the timing of Putin's decision to invade had anything other than to do with the fact that Ukraine was heading towards NATO membership.

For the record, I believe there were other factors. The completion of Nord Stream. Germany still sorting out their coalition government. France being busy with their presidential election. Britain being busy with Downing Street parties. The US being buys tearing itself apart. All these would delay reactions from those governments until it is too late.

[Draco-Onis]

For the record, I believe there were other factors. The completion of Nord Stream. Germany still sorting out their coalition government. France being busy with their presidential election. Britain being busy with Downing Street parties. The US being buys tearing itself apart. All these would delay reactions from those governments until it is too late.

I think Putin is going senile you don't have to be political genius to figure the perfect time would have been under Trump during the transition of power when the US was a shit show especially after the insurrection. Trump would have bent over backwards to defend him as he is now and have the power to stall or slow NATO.

[Breccia]

Trump would have bent over backwards to defend him as he is now and have the power to stall or slow NATO.

This seems solid to me. Also, I can't help but wonder, those people yelling "Why didn't Biden put sanctions on Russia before like a bigly yuge leader?" don't seem to be mentioning Trump actually tried to remove some.