Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Mekh]

I haven't been called out about anything, because there's nothing to be called out for. I posted a report about things Biden said and you became unreasonably defensive about it. That's a you problem, I'm afraid. I get that he might be 'your guy' or whatever, but even so, that's not a reason to be mad when the international press reports on what he says and does.

In other news, he has tested positive for covid. Pretty sure he'll be fine, the Paxlovid seems to be quite effective. The new variant doing the rounds isn't quite as 'mild' as people might think though. Two close relatives recently had it and it's quite nasty.

How is explaining the facts of life to you being defensive? At best, I am frustrated in the way teachers get frustrated with retarded children.

[Ivanstone]

Biden, according to 538 and RCP, has reached an average approval of either 38% or 37% according to polls.

Context wise? That was as low as Trump ever got, even after January 6th. I admit I didn't quite expect this of the Biden presidency. Sure I didn't have very high hopes he'd do an amazing job, but what has happened so far is way worse then that.

Trump supporters thought he did a great job even though he fucked up constantly. Biden doesn’t inspire that level of fanaticism in Dem supporters.

[Adam Jensen]

Remember when our troops sacrificed themselves for the furniture of their children?

Take your concern trolling elsewhere.

When American revolutionary soldiers fought for the airports at Concord?

[Breccia]

Trump supporters thought he did a great job even though he fucked up constantly. Biden doesn’t inspire that level of fanaticism in Dem supporters.

Let's also add, there are people willing to blame Biden for everything, even things Biden has zero control over. I see my Alabama relatives blaming Biden for pushing electric cars in a heatwave. No, really.

[Adam Jensen]

Let's also add, there are people willing to blame Biden for everything, even things Biden has zero control over. I see my Alabama relatives blaming Biden for pushing electric cars in a heatwave. No, really.

Yeah Buttigieg is getting flack for that too.

Like, he's not saying "go out and buy an electric car now!" but he's saying it's something we should start looking into and it's something the DoT is looking into.

The right threw a fit because Biden went somewhere the other day by motorcade. "OMG HE TRAVELED IN A CONVOY OF GAS GUZZLING SUVS!" like every other President has always done for the President's protection?

I mean sure, maybe we can replace the SUV's with something electric, but it's not something that's going to happen immediately FFS.

[Breccia]

The right threw a fit because Biden went somewhere the other day by motorcade.

That's hypocrisy for you. To be fair, the golf cart Trump used to climb a small hill was probably electric.

[Paranoid Android]

Brandon has COVID.

The irony here is the FAT, unhealthy denying COVID denier, lived through COVID. We will see about Biden.

[uuuhname]

if they put Biden on the same steroids they did Trump he is going to be old man raging for days. he might actually conjure up force lighting to zap an ungrateful press core member.

[Edge-]

Brandon has COVID.

The irony here is the FAT, unhealthy denying COVID denier, lived through COVID. We will see about Biden.

He's vaxxed, boosted, and we have effective antivirals now. He's in otherwise fine health and isn't obese, so he'll probably end up being fine.

And he probably won't even irresponsibly force his secret service detail to get into a plague-car with him to drive around the building for his fans, either.

[Kaleredar]

There is no need to be mad that people are commenting on Biden's gaffes. He's the leader of the free world, when he talks gibberish and gets things wrong people are going to notice. Unfortunately for him it seems to happen rather a lot. He should have retired a long time ago. Sad that America had such a shite choice. Maybe they can get their shit together for 2024.

"guy with known stutter stutters, corrects himself" is not particularly news-worthy.

[Edge-]

He already is a Republican with a D next to his name what difference does it make exactly? What's to be lost?

Majority Leader Mitch McConnel.

You know all those judges that are getting through the Senate and onto courts, preventing them from being packed by more activist conservatives? Those would all be gone.

Fuck Manchin, and I hate his selfish, amoral, dishonest, piece of shit ass as much as the next person and desperately want him gone. But without him (or any current Senate Democrat) Democrats have no "majority" (quotes because it's 50:50 so not actually a majority as we've seen) and Majority Leader Mitch McConnel could hamstring anything and everything that Democrats have gotten through the Senate. Even if they don't have many legislative wins because of bullshit from Manchin and Sinema, it's still infinitely preferable to the alternative.

[DarkAmbient]

"guy with known stutter stutters, corrects himself" is not particularly news-worthy.

A gaff-prone politician will have their gaffes reported on, especially when they are president of the USA. Objections to these gaffes being reported on are entirely partisan.

[Very Tired]

Mind boggling how Biden tries to blame inflation on Russia which is so easily discredited when there are a ton of other factors to it that he can state which don't make him look bad in the slightest. He's really just letting the other side roll all over him with the blame train pretending the President has all this control over the economy or that the same exact things wouldn't be happening under Trump. Same with the high gas prices.

[Breccia]

Mind boggling how Biden tries to blame inflation on Russia which is so easily discredited

Actually, it makes sense. People are blaming Biden for causing inflation for causing high gas prices. Biden's telling the Trump supporters something they actually need to hear, and actually related to the problem they're talking about.

True, it doesn't make sense to reasonable people, but reasonable people aren't blaming Biden for inflation.

[Endus]

Actually, it makes sense. People are blaming Biden for causing inflation for causing high gas prices. Biden's telling the Trump supporters something they actually need to hear, and actually related to the problem they're talking about.

True, it doesn't make sense to reasonable people, but reasonable people aren't blaming Biden for inflation.

I watched Oliver's bit on this last night and it annoyed me. He quoted Biden with this, doing a whole big bit on the causes of inflation, and saying that everyone had a bit of a point.

So he broke it down into these basic arguments;

1> Supply shortages causing prices to rise as demand remains unchanged.
2> Demand increases resulting from COVID relief support payments
3> Russia's fucking about with oil delivery causing chaos with oil prices
4> Corporate greed

At least, pretty sure those are the 4. If I missed something, just correct me, it won't affect my point.

Now, those all look fine, and I don't actually have a problem with most of it on this surface level. But my issue is the inclusion of #4 as if it's a separate argument. Supply shortages are the only one of these factors that doesn't boil down to #4, and that's only presuming it's an actual shortage, not a manufactured artificial one.

Demand increases only lead to price increases as companies realize they can charge more for products and still sell out. That's corporate greed.
Putin's dicking around is based on Russia's financial interests. It's greed as well.

This transforms Oliver's seemingly nuanced take into a much-less nuanced and much-more-damning argument; the current inflation is caused largely by corporate greed, and to a lesser extent some supply chain hiccups which can't readily be addressed. Corporate greed, however, absolutely could be.

[Very Tired]

Actually, it makes sense. People are blaming Biden for causing inflation for causing high gas prices. Biden's telling the Trump supporters something they actually need to hear, and actually related to the problem they're talking about.

True, it doesn't make sense to reasonable people, but reasonable people aren't blaming Biden for inflation.

Trump supporters aren't going to buy it seeing as we've been having these problems since before all this stuff in Ukraine started.

And Biden's approval rating is lower than Trump's was, I don't think these reasonable people are quite getting the message.

[Milchshake]

Looks like the NYT needs to poll another 92 people asking, "Why is Biden cratering with Online People!"

• When most Online People would rather just make stuff up about Biden.
• Pretty much the same people that in 2010-2012 complained that, "Obummer promised me a pony".

[Breccia]

Trump supporters aren't going to buy it seeing as we've been having these problems since before all this stuff in Ukraine started.

As @Endus spelled out, a lot of it is COVID-related. And guess what they'll never blame Trump for?

[Edge-]

Following the Democratic governors group boosting Trump aligned fringe candidates, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is doing the same in trying to boost some fringe Trump candidates in House races.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...imary-00047750

Because Democratic leadership has, sadly, learned nothing from the past 6 years. They're playing with fire and then they're going to get burned and complain that they had no way of knowing this would happen. Fuckin hell boomers whose IQ suffers due to exposure to lead in their youth shouldn't be determining strategy.

[uuuhname]

democrats can't do anything about abortion rights, or climate change much less inflation; but they can sure get even more fringe wing nuts elected. so they can scare the voter base into giving them even more money, so they can keep getting more fringe wing nuts elected. it's the prefect system they set up for themselves.