1. #14801
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Thanks for the link, that does seem to get rid of AOCs reasoning as it doesn’t allow for them attacking citizens and pretty well restricts it to just foreigners who are directly related to Russia’s activities in this matter.

    Unless I am missing something or reading it wrong.
    The issue is it didn't have any mechanisms for determining if if it's conditions are met other then essentially " the president says so"

  2. #14802
    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    The issue is it didn't have any mechanisms for determining if if it's conditions are met other then essentially " the president says so"
    Ah, yeah, that would be a huge issue given how Donny Dumbfuck would have used it.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
    "mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

  3. #14803
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Approval rating in the toilet.
    GDP down.
    Recession on the horizon.

    If COVID sunk Trump and the GOP, then the current economic climate will absolutely bury the Dems this year and in 2024. And probably for a long time.
    You know you've made these kinds of claims many times before going all the way back to the 2018 primary and look how things have been shaping up so far. I think you should stop making predictions, you're not very good at it.

  4. #14804
    Excellent from the Biden administration today with wanting to help Ukraine with a 33 billion aide package.

    I hope it gets through whatever check points are needed.

  5. #14805
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Approval rating in the toilet.
    GDP down.
    Recession on the horizon.

    If COVID sunk Trump and the GOP, then the current economic climate will absolutely bury the Dems this year and in 2024. And probably for a long time.
    GDP is higher than any of the Trump years. Hell even some of them combined.
    Approval rating is still higher than Trump's.
    Recession and crash is on the horizon because of Trump's policies.

    Only someone so fucking delusional that doesn't know how this country works would claim any of this shit is on Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Not in their control? That is debatable, at least.

    Regardless, perception is reality when it comes to politics, and they are about to be buried for a long, long time.

    Not saying this is a good thing or healthy for a democracy to have one side/party run rampant over all levels of government, but the Dems sure have been good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since 2016.
    Show how they are in his control. We will wait.

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    More confirmation for the Bernie-to-Trump pipeline.



    Though if Biden cancels her student loans from Harvard there's a chance she might vote Dem, for real ... in good faith.
    /s

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    Weird tact to take given that Biden has continued extending the pause on loan repayments and is actually apparently moving towards at least partial debt cancellation writ-large, having already canceled the debts of tens of thousands of loan recipients.

    But I don't think anyone has ever credibly accused Briebrie of being very smart or politically astute.

  8. #14808
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post


    So posting here, cause again this political and effin bullshit and not dealing with the Elon sycophants in General-OT. Oh and also there was a tweet from Nate Silver about how both the left has moved more leftand right has moved more right.. The good ole both sides argument.

    Yes the Dems/Left whatever you call it is left but we know not as left as even many European countries. But the Right? This is where the both sides and normalizing the Right is crazy atm. The Right is trying to implement fascism and the oh btw they actually tried a coup. Even their every day politics is trying make everything about a culture war.

    So this shows where Musk, Rogan I guess and Bill Maher say the left has ran away from them is crazy when the right is the one sprinting. Musk will live in his fantasy land of him being in the center or maybe he is a bullshit artist on his political stance much like when with his companies.
    Looking over a twitter thread that is replying to the tweet you linked to and it comes back to an MMO champion thread xD

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/s...60742857252864

  9. #14809
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Looking over a twitter thread that is replying to the tweet you linked to and it comes back to an MMO champion thread xD

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/s...60742857252864
    Very cool. Cheers.

    I deleted my post and went to General OT. Thanks tho.
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  10. #14810
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Looking over a twitter thread that is replying to the tweet you linked to and it comes back to an MMO champion thread xD

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/s...60742857252864
    Damn man, sometimes it really is a small world after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Looking over a twitter thread that is replying to the tweet you linked to and it comes back to an MMO champion thread xD

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/s...60742857252864
    Not my finest work, but i'll take the mention.

    Do people even read the Economist anymore?

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    gee elliot morris give me money for my valuable insights

  13. #14813
    What's funny and idk how many bots or trolls giving MMO Champion LULS don't know our very good political discussion and knowledge we have here. Well some
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

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    As a reward, Chaud should make us all global mods. I'm already at the point where I ignore almost all mentions, quotes, and messages.
    I won't hide my infractions either. I'll sign them ... for the fans.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Yeah my bad you are right here. But like you get the point right?

    Like if you graduate you have student debt that subtracts from your wealth. That is why you can be poor in wealth terms but not poor in a way that actually matters which is what the paper focuses on
    Brookings itself uses the mortgage example to help explain both columns, asset and liability (just read or skim the full paper). Looking at just the debt column, you would conclude that doctors are the worst-off individuals with student debt--their median student debt burden is among the highest. But does it really make sense to claim that doctors are the true victims of the student debt burden? No. It's when you take the cost of the degree against the value of the degree that you see which part of society shoulders the worst debt burden. A naive analysis of current financial wealth fails both mortgage and student loan debt. The real question is which segment of society owes student loan debt without much value for the degree.
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  16. #14816
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    GDP is higher than any of the Trump years. Hell even some of them combined.
    Approval rating is still higher than Trump's.
    Recession and crash is on the horizon because of Trump's policies.

    Only someone so fucking delusional that doesn't know how this country works would claim any of this shit is on Biden.

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    Show how they are in his control. We will wait.
    Didn't say it was in his control. But it happened when he was President. And that's all the electorate cares about. Enjoy the L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    But it happened when he was President. And that's all the electorate cares about.
    Funny story: this is false. The people who are willing to ignore facts, evidence and logic are the people who already voted for a serial adulterer failed businessman because he promised them a Wall, 25 million jobs and 4% GDP growth. Then, they voted for him after he provided none of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Mortgage debt is higher among the middle-class and rich, because poor people can't afford a house in the first place. Poor people rent and get no assets for it, or they're homeless. But hey, at least they don't owe a mortgage, right?

    People who are so poor they can barely afford food and rent don't go to the college necessary to dig themselves out of their bad situation, leaving themselves poor forever.

    I work at a public university, one dedicated to keeping costs low to get as many people into college as possible. We're scraping for grant and scholarship money to keep children of farmers and inner-city youths enrolled. This attitude of yours is insulting. You're basically saying that income tax is unfair to able-bodied people because disabled people can't work.
    I'm glad you're doing work that's fulfilling for you in public university. But don't try to level a "your attitude is insulting" moral indignation on me. You know why forgiving student loan debt would primarily function as a windfall to the rich. And you're no friend to children to farmers and inner-city youths if make their taxes responsible to repaying the student debt of elites. Maybe they can better sort through solutions to higher-priced college that doesn't involve prices continuing to climb as it's fueled by free loans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    You know why forgiving student loan debt would primarily function as a windfall to the rich
    Liar.

    Your own source says that the upper class owe 60% of the money but make 75% of the payments, while the lower class owes 20% but makes 10% of the payments. Your source, Brookings.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...-from-the-fed/

    People who are better off are having less difficulty paying off those loans. People who are poorer are having more difficulty. That's not just objective facts, it's also common sense.

    And that's leaving out fraudulent loans. Which, of course, Biden has already spent time trying to manage. Four years of DeVos was a tragedy.

    Poor people can't afford those loans and the forgiveness would make a much bigger difference to them.

    Your attitude was insulting, but your math is worse. See me after class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    I'm glad you're doing work that's fulfilling for you in public university. But don't try to level a "your attitude is insulting" moral indignation on me. You know why forgiving student loan debt would primarily function as a windfall to the rich.
    A one-off forgiveness, maybe, but Breccia's got better numbers on that. But the cost of college is the primary reason there's a massive socioeconomic disparity in who goes to college in the first place. Standardized loan debt forgiveness and programs that focus on forgiveness prioritizing the lower-income first both fix that particular issue. Student loan forgiveness is a solution to the underlying socioeconomic disparity.

    And you're no friend to children to farmers and inner-city youths if make their taxes responsible to repaying the student debt of elites.
    That's a horseshit lie.

    Tax the rich instead. Problem solved.

    "But we've set the system up to unfairly punish the poor because we hates them and need a subjugated class to abuse!" Yeah, that attitude can fuck off for free.

    Maybe they can better sort through solutions to higher-priced college that doesn't involve prices continuing to climb as it's fueled by free loans.
    That's not what causes prices to rise. Where do you get this absolute steaming lunacy?


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