Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Cthulhu 2020]

Conservatives on Twitter are so unhinged at how well Biden's SOTU speech went that they're completely ignoring how hard they got owned and instead circle jerking about how Biden must have Parkinson'sAlzheimer'sDementiaAIDSHemorrhoid's because he walked slightly funny to his car.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/sta...35997264265217

He walked like my healthy 80 Y.O. Grandfather walked.

[Edge-]

Conservatives on Twitter are so unhinged at how well Biden's SOTU speech went that they're completely ignoring how hard they got owned and instead circle jerking about how Biden must have Parkinson'sAlzheimer'sDementiaAIDSHemorrhoid's because he walked slightly funny to his car.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/sta...35997264265217

He walked like my healthy 80 Y.O. Grandfather walked.

Wait...what is "that gait"? Is that like "dat ass"?

I do love that they're so bereft of any policy-level criticisms that the best they can muster up is, "He walks sorta funny, isn't that STRANGE?!"

I do enjoy the folks posting Trump slowly shuffling down a ramp in response.

Boy those "related tweets" though. Do most of those Republicans know that the Twitter character limit was increased to 280 characters?

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...41132073852928

America misses President Trump’s leadership.

...wasn't there an election of this a few years back?

[Breccia]

because he walked slightly funny to his car.

I think we have footage of that.



Also, NPR listed the five big moments of the STFU, I mean, SOTU Biden gave.

1. The speech had to make Democrats more comfortable with the idea of Biden as the standard-bearer again in 2024
2. Biden tried to bait the right, and it worked
3. Populism and nationalism are in
4. There wasn't much about China — or Ukraine, for that matter
5. Biden got both parties to stand on police reform — and continued to walk a tightrope on police and criminal justice

Not talking about Ukraine much...that was a little disappointing, but I don't know what more he'd need to say. "We 100% support Ukraine"? We've proven that already.

I wonder if FOX News has their own top f--

1) Liar!

Yes, of course they have their own list, of course they picked this first. Check for yourself, I get +1 CNN point regardless.

But this is the part I really wanted to cite:

2. McCarthy shushes
Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy shushed hecklers in his own party when they interrupted Biden’s tribute to a fentanyl victim.

McCarthy could be seen mouthing, "Shush," after a member yelled, "It’s coming from China," and another shouted, "It’s your fault."

McCarthy could be seen trying to quiet members of his party again when some of them shouted about securing the border when the president was talking about immigration reform.

So...what was FOX News going for here?

If they were trying to show that people objected to Biden...um...helping sick/dying people, then #1 did that. #2 doesn't help. If they want to show McCarthy as an effective leader, #1 contradicts that.

Look, I want that FOX News wants to pretend they're being fair and/or balanced, and good luck with that, but why post intentionally contradictory things like that? That's just bad writing. My posts are horrifying one-sided beat downs of bias, but at least they're consistent.

FOX News then went on to fact check the 12 million jobs claim, like FOX "Death Panels" News has a leg to stand on. In fact, I'm giving myself another CNN point just for FOX News pretending to have credibility.

[Edge-]

The more I'm catching up on this the more hilarious it is.

Real, Republicans made it so hilariously easy to bait them and they just walked into everything. Like, holy shit Biden didn't do anything super impressive or sneaky in his speech, he just opened the door and let them leap through.

Seems like his administration may be reading Sun Tzu. The Republican caucus...apparently not.

They're getting masterfully played by, according to them, a senior citizen with dementia who doesn't even know who he is anymore. How embarassing.

[Breccia]

Chris Wallace...is this still a CNN point for citing Wallace? Half? Wait, he said it in a CNN interview? Fuck it, they cancel out.

Chris Wallace says Republicans played into Biden’s hands with heckling

“I mean, they literally played into his hands. You know, I don’t know if the people at the White House as they were drafting it at Camp David this weekend envisioned that happening the way it did, but it played out perfectly,” Wallace said on CNN following the speech.

Biden later called on Congress to agree to “stand up for seniors,” getting applause from across both parties.

“When he said let’s all stand up for seniors, there was no politician who was not going to stand up for seniors,” Wallace said.

He said Biden continued in calling for no cuts to Social Security and Medicare while everyone was still standing.

“It was a brilliant moment that, you know, it like took something that had been prepared by the speech writers and he made it his own and he made it magic,” Wallace said. “It was really quite a piece of political showmanship.”

Wallace said before the speech that Biden would likely have his largest live audience of the year on Tuesday night and needed to come off as “vigorous,” as he is likely close to announcing his 2024 reelection bid.

[Kathranis]

After a few initial stumbles he got on a pretty good roll, really hammered home the notion that we're on the path to recovery and need to stay the course. Had some decent but probably empty rhetoric on tough subjects. Sounded passionate and energetic. Put the MAGA hecklers hypocrisy on a podium. Got the Republicans to stand and applaud for a lot of bipartisan stuff they didn't really want, and had them sit and frown at a lot of objectively good news.

I'm not a Biden fan, but he did really well.

[Shadowferal]

72 percent of viewers had positive reaction to Biden speech: CNN flash poll

All things considered he was the adult in the room...

[Captain N]

72 percent of viewers had positive reaction to Biden speech: CNN flash poll

All things considered he was the adult in the room...

Looks like a big bounce in his NPR Approval Ratings too after the speech as well....

Here's a look at some of the numbers:

Overall approval rating jumped to 47%, up 8 points from the NPR poll last month. Presidents don't generally see much, if any bounce, out of a State of the Union address. Since 1978, there had only been six times when a president saw an approval rating improve 4 points or more following State of the Union addresses, according to the pollsters. Three of those bounces were for former President Bill Clinton.

Ukraine handling is up 18 points to 52%.

Coronavirus pandemic handling is now 55%, up 8 points.

Economic handling up 8 points to 45%.

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/04/10844...kraine-economy

[YUPPIE]

a bit late, but damn the Republicans were enraged. Like, I don't even have to say or cite anything else other than that.

[Shadowferal]

a bit late, but damn the Republicans were enraged. Like, I don't even have to say or cite anything else other than that.

Faux rage isn't rage.

[Poopymonster]

a bit late, but damn the Republicans were enraged. Like, I don't even have to say or cite anything else other than that.

Yet you will. Ad nauseum. Again.

[Flarelaine]

Real, Republicans made it so hilariously easy to bait them and they just walked into everything. Like, holy shit Biden didn't do anything super impressive or sneaky in his speech, he just opened the door and let them leap through.

I'm not even saying Biden is super smart. But he has been a Capitol Hill operator since 19-fucking-72. Longer than most of these folks have been alive.

[Edge-]

I'm not even saying Biden is super smart. But he has been a Capitol Hill operator since 19-fucking-72. Longer than most of these folks have been alive.

He was making bipartisan deals while many of those Republicans were still swimming around in their daddy's balls, to take a quote from a movie I can't recall off-hand.

He's no great orator and he's not the sharpest with a quip, though he does have them. A lot of the bait was purely written into the speech and he delivered it well enough, but he did have some solid off-script followups. But again, not particularly hard to bait a crowd that largely seemed primed for outbursts already. Though them sitting down in silence multiple times when he responded to their jeers was amusing.

[Flarelaine]

He was making bipartisan deals while many of those Republicans were still swimming around in their daddy's balls, to take a quote from a movie I can't recall off-hand.

He's no great orator and he's not the sharpest with a quip, though he does have them. A lot of the bait was purely written into the speech and he delivered it well enough, but he did have some solid off-script followups. But again, not particularly hard to bait a crowd that largely seemed primed for outbursts already. Though them sitting down in silence multiple times when he responded to their jeers was amusing.

Responses lead me to believe that he does not rely solely on speechwriters and we know he has snark to spare.

And I also think all the memes about Biden (going back to the Obama/Biden memes) also affect his audience whether they want it or not. Some of those are now burnt into the collective consciousness.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...says-rcna70166

Another high flying object shot down, this time over Alaskan airspace. We'll have to wait to hear more on it. I wonder if Senator Murkowski is going to bitch and moan and complain and whine about this like she apparently did about the last balloon going over Alaska.

[unfilteredJW]

Responses lead me to believe that he does not rely solely on speechwriters and we know he has snark to spare.

And I also think all the memes about Biden (going back to the Obama/Biden memes) also affect his audience whether they want it or not. Some of those are now burnt into the collective consciousness.

Uncle Joe as presented by The Onion will always be my fav Biden memes.

[Paranoid Android]

NEWS:

Senate Dem aides are frustrated with the Biden administration for withholding materials they need to investigate Jared Kushner's Saudi deals, sources tell me.

It's become "unacceptable," Sen Wyden says. It's hampering probe of Trump-Saudi dealings:

Thread.

The deals we make.

So Dems want documents and Biden not willing to produce them into Kuschner and Saudi Arabia. While this thread doesn't lean into it or have evidence this is likely that SA has the US by the balls and just like Kashoggi, if you make Saudi look bad, then no oil for you!

[Breccia]

So Dems want documents and Biden not willing to produce them into Kuschner and Saudi Arabia.

Biden is trying to stay above all this. By doing this, when Comer asks for information on Hunter Biden, he can simply say he's not playing favorites.

[Paranoid Android]

So let's get political with East Palestine, Ohio train disaster. Posting here cause it's bout the politics.

In my post on General chat thread. @Edge had a good post in Palestine thread bout the politics and I want to riff off this.

The Democrats are once again getting out maneuvered on this. The Dems should be everywhere on media talking about how the de-regulation and yes rail workers getting screwed helped contribute. Now in my whole post we are not sure but run with this.

A chance to maybe get Ohio voters on your side is quickly being turned into "It's Biden's fault". Now I do see problems. Buttigieg has been asleep at the wheel and I must say a shit Secretary of Transportation. Biden and part of the strategy should immediately push for the brake regulation and safety and not sure what you can do with the workers, since it's been solved.

The Republicans are completely blaming Biden and Buttigieg for derailment and asking Buttigieg in particular to show up. While yes JD Vance took 10 days, but who cares right.

I'm very much a pessimist and sometimes just feel that much pockets of the country you can't do nothing for them, since they vote against their interest. If I have any hope and this is also pessimistic is the Dems fight back. Of course my narrative has always been the Dems are just the other party that sits there to get kicked in the teeth by Republicans and every once in awhile they win elections, cause people get tired of all the Republican eff ups. Dems never win on policy. Here they should fight for one.

[Edge-]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...er-3-trillion/

FACT SHEET: The Congressional Republican Agenda to Increase the Debt by Over $3 Trillion

Eyo this is actually some good shit. It goes point by point, with multiple citations to news reports or Republicans own materials/interviews, backing up each of their claims.

TLDR: Republicans want to continue to blow up the deficit/debt while largely focusing on tax breaks for super-wealthy Americans and corporations, including big-pharma.

The bottom line is: having committed to over $3 trillion in debt increases and also insisted they are committed to reducing the debt, Congressional Republicans owe the American public a complete and transparent accounting of who will foot the bill. Will it be middle-class and working families, seniors, students, or all of the above?

Emphasis not mine, but it's fitting given that Republicans have consistently promised transparency out of this session of the House and we're not getting much of it so far.