Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

What's up with this super casual attitude towards classified documents? Is there like, nobody looking after them? Or is that just crazytalk, and that's just what one does with classified documents, with them ending up wherever?

The difference between Pence/Biden and Trump is like the difference between a friend who takes stuff from your house without realizing it and then returning it before you ever noticed and a "Friend" who steals from your house and after you noticed it instead tells you that that stuff is his now.

As for how casual it is, I think a lot of it has to deal with the type of classified information it is. Is it 3 year old scheduling information that is long past any point of relevance or is it stuff relating to nuclear secrets or otherwise information that is still relevant to be our security.

As far as intent goes, Trump is screwed while Pence and Biden are in the clear.

As far as the content goes, Trump is even more screwed given he had information so sensitive it wasn't even supposed to be removed from the building it was stored in while with Pence and Biden we still don't know.

Overall, the public honestly shouldn't have known about any of this since the searches are still ongoing with them not letting anyone know till it was all completed to keep any other actors from finding out early and trying to search for them attempting to get them before the government could recover them. Trump screwed that up on his end for his opening his mouth, with Pence and Biden, not sure who in their group is giving the bad idea to let the public know before hand.

I understand the potential public backlash if they leaked it before they announced it, but this should have been kept under tighter security all the way around on this.

[fwc577]

The main thing it does is highlight how obviously ridiculous the application of the classification system is in many cases. If documents can just kind of go missing for a decade and then turn up in a former senator's house after someone got around to looking for them, just how important and superduper top secret do we think these documents actually were? Does anyone actually think it would be a good idea to empower the security state to go after top elected officials for this behavior?

Of course, there is some amusing schadenfreude to be had from Biden's disingenuous "I would never" reaction to the supposed mishandling of such documents, but let's be clear, no one outside of the most officious bureaucrats sincerely gives a shit about this.

And that's the fucking kicker that separates both Pence and Biden from Trump.

The government didn't know about these documents, therefore, they likely weren't very important.

Meanwhile, Trump had shit that was designated as shouldn't be leaving a scif sitting in a fucking storage shed on property crawling with foreign fucking agents.

[Paranoid Android]

Sign-ups for Affordable Care Act coverage have skyrocketed nearly 50% since the Biden administration took office in 2021.

CNN source

Enrollments under the Affordable Care Act have reached an all-time high on the federal and state exchanges. The rise in enrollments is attributed to generous subsidies and aggressive outreach.

Wall Street Journal Source.

I read the CNN article and yes it was attributed to that the max a person can be charged went down from 10% to 8.5% and they credit outreach.

My take is it has become cheaper, imagine if we had universal health care and I think outreach is people being squeezed so much more they are turning to an alternative of ACA. Still a very broken system and a shithole patch to our healthcare crisis. Not really cheering this but at least people are turning to getting health care that may be more affordable.

On the politics side, the people who are turning to ACA idk it this benefits that people see the two sides of the parties in that one at least wants some social security nets.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...18023371808768



We're in year 3 of the Biden presidency and conservatives are all still super triggered the people correctly use Dr. Jill Biden's professional title.

I'll take this opportunity to once again remind everyone that Megyn (lol) Kelly was once heir apparent to the most valuable hour of television - Bill O'Reilly's show. She pissed off the wrong people - which is easy do when you're a hypocritical asshole siding with the leopards by doing things like spending years complaining about those lazy bitches who expect maternity leave for pushing out a baby until she does and OH MY GOD WHY DID NOBODY TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT MATERNITY LEAVE IS - and lost that spot, ended up moving to NBC for a few years where nobody watched her light, fluffy daytime talkshow, and is now doing the podcasting gig like every other loser.

It really is impressive watching conservative women blow up their careers because they don't realize who they're siding with. Like that time Gina Carrano starred in a post-Mandalorian movie that generated around $800 at the Box Office. Total.

ANYWAYS, I enjoy that insecure, inadequate conservatives continue to be triggered by a woman with a higher education than they have.

[Endus]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...18023371808768



We're in year 3 of the Biden presidency and conservatives are all still super triggered the people correctly use Dr. Jill Biden's professional title.

I'll take this opportunity to once again remind everyone that Megyn (lol) Kelly was once heir apparent to the most valuable hour of television - Bill O'Reilly's show. She pissed off the wrong people - which is easy do when you're a hypocritical asshole siding with the leopards by doing things like spending years complaining about those lazy bitches who expect maternity leave for pushing out a baby until she does and OH MY GOD WHY DID NOBODY TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT MATERNITY LEAVE IS - and lost that spot, ended up moving to NBC for a few years where nobody watched her light, fluffy daytime talkshow, and is now doing the podcasting gig like every other loser.

It really is impressive watching conservative women blow up their careers because they don't realize who they're siding with. Like that time Gina Carrano starred in a post-Mandalorian movie that generated around $800 at the Box Office. Total.

ANYWAYS, I enjoy that insecure, inadequate conservatives continue to be triggered by a woman with a higher education than they have.

God, Kelly is such a fucking moron.

"Doctor" is a title earned by those with doctorate-level degrees. Doctor of Medicine is oneof those. Any doctorate degree entitles the earner to use the title of "Doctor".

Only complete idiots or liars are unaware of this.

[Breccia]

Megyn (lol) Kelly

She's likely still miffed that getting her J.D. didn't typically get her called "doctor". I don't think that's systematic. I've never once seen @cubby say "That's Doctor Cubby to you!"

By the way, Doctor Jill Biden has three graduate degrees -- Masters of Education, Master of Arts/English, and Ed.D. She's earned that title.

[Edge-]

God, Kelly is such a fucking moron.

"Doctor" is a title earned by those with doctorate-level degrees. Doctor of Medicine is oneof those. Any doctorate degree entitles the earner to use the title of "Doctor".

Only complete idiots or liars are unaware of this.

But imagine if someone has a heart attack at a restaurant and someone yells, "IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE?!", what is Dr. Jill Biden going to do?!

It's just hilarious how far Kelly has fallen, and mostly how the existence of Dr. Jill Biden seems to be enough to trigger the fuck out of conservatives.

[Breccia]

But imagine if someone has a heart attack at a restaurant and someone yells, "IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE?!", what is Dr. Jill Biden going to do?!

Um...you're too late, that's already been used by alt-right posters. Sorry, I know you were being sarcastic, but someone used it for realsies.

You're going to have to pick a different joke.

[cubby]

She's likely still miffed that getting her J.D. didn't typically get her called "doctor". I don't think that's systematic. I've never once seen @cubby say "That's Doctor Cubby to you!"

By the way, Doctor Jill Biden has three graduate degrees -- Masters of Education, Master of Arts/English, and Ed.D. She's earned that title.

J.D.'s never, ever, get called Doctor (except right after graduation, when we channel that terrific scene in Spies Like Us - my buddies and I did that). Lawyers get their own title, Lawyer or Counselor or Esquire - and that is just dandy.

[Edge-]

Um...you're too late, that's already been used by alt-right posters. Sorry, I know you were being sarcastic, but someone used it for realsies.

You're going to have to pick a different joke.

That's specifically why I used that "joke". Because clearly everyone with a doctorate would think that someone asking for a doctor is speaking about them.

Now I'm trying to find that comic where this is the setup but the punchline is actually that yes, they do need someone with an obscure doctorate for something and it's finally their time to shine.

Because that's actually moderately funny and doesn't rely on the subject of the joke being extremely highly educated but also incapable of closing their mouth so that they stop dribbling drool on themselves.

[Endus]

J.D.'s never, ever, get called Doctor (except right after graduation, when we channel that terrific scene in Spies Like Us - my buddies and I did that). Lawyers get their own title, Lawyer or Counselor or Esquire - and that is just dandy.

Even law profs? "Doctor" is the pretty standard apellation for anyone with a doctorate. I've never been in even pre-med, but almost all my profs were "Dr. So-and-so" (the few exceptions being professionals with a lot of experience who were teaching some more practically-oriented seminars).

Regardless, if M.D.s want to be special little snowflakes, they're free to come up with their own professional designation. "Doctor" is already taken by academia.

[Breccia]

if M.D.s want to be special little snowflakes

Megyn is not a MD, either.

[Masark]

Even law profs? "Doctor" is the pretty standard apellation for anyone with a doctorate.

Despite the name, a JD is actually a baccalaureate level degree, equivalent to what is usually called a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) up here.

The Dr. So-and-so degree is a Doctor of Juridical Science (JSD) or a PhD in law, depending on the institution.

[Flarelaine]

Doctorates come in all flavours. I used to share an office with a girl who got hers in cyberdefense.

[cubby]

Even law profs? "Doctor" is the pretty standard apellation for anyone with a doctorate. I've never been in even pre-med, but almost all my profs were "Dr. So-and-so" (the few exceptions being professionals with a lot of experience who were teaching some more practically-oriented seminars).

Not even law professors - typically, law professors have their JD (obviously) and then their Masters of Law (LLM), which is a post JD degree, specializing in a focused area of law (torts, intellectual property, etc.). Law school professors are typically referred to as "professor", or other academic designation - but to my knowledge and experience, never "doctor". While the J.D. is literally Juris Doctoral, it doesn't carry with it the title "Doctor" - we get other, special titles, "attorney, lawyer, esquire".

It's definitely a weird amalgamation of words and titles mixed in with history, but honestly, what else would you expect from the legal profession. We carved out our special snowflake designation centuries ago.

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Despite the name, a JD is actually a baccalaureate level degree, equivalent to what is usually called a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) up here.

The Dr. So-and-so degree is a Doctor of Juridical Science (JSD) or a PhD in law, depending on the institution.

The United States' degree of JD is not a baccalaureate level degree. It is a very difficult three year graduate degree, higher in equivalency than even a Masters Degree (which is typically a 1-2 year degree).

The JD degree in the United States is Juris Doctoral. In other countries, however, the law degree is a bachelor's level degree, like history or other such subjects.

The United States stole the British system of law (except for Louisiana, which uses the French version of law), and then morphed it into the shitstorm it currently resides.

[Breccia]

It's definitely a weird amalgamation of words and titles mixed in with history

I mean, what do you expect from a profession that still uses Latin.

On topic: remember when Trump was asking when the FBI was going to raid Biden? Turns out, the answer was "they already did, fatass."

FOX News hands me another CNN point by posting that, yes, the FBI did in fact search the Penn Center where Biden worked, shortly after the first documents were found. And that was mid-November.

"Why are we just learning about this now?"

Because it's largely irrelevant? No warrant was demanded, the FBI professionally and thoroughly checked the place, then went home. The FBI isn't typically in the business of announcing that sort of thing, so the fact that we're just now learning about it shows how little anyone cared about a non-story.

"Did you just cite FOX News citing CBS News to get a free CNN point?"

There will be no further questions!

[gondrin]

So, this can go in either the Trump thread or Biden thread as it involves both of them, however it talks more about Biden and the classified documents from an actual lawyer.

[Breccia]

FBI searches Biden's Rehobeth home.

"What? Biden left documents there?"

No.

"Why are they searching it?"

To be thorough, to be fair, to show they're taking this seriously, and of course because Biden is basically begging them to just to prove a point to Fatass McDonalds Trump.

[Edge-]

FBI searches Biden's Rehobeth home.

"What? Biden left documents there?"

No.

"Why are they searching it?"

To be thorough, to be fair, to show they're taking this seriously, and of course because Biden is basically begging them to just to prove a point to Fatass McDonalds Trump.

Worth noting: Biden has been fully cooperating with this, and there was no advanced warning of this search.

This is being done by the book and isn't requiring subpoena's and legal battles.

[PrimiOne]

20 years ago characters of "Friends" were mocking Ross for calling himself Doctor ( Paleonthology) and it amused me because I was working on mine at the time and now I see that US political discussion have reached two decades ago sit-com level. Congrats to Megyn Kelly and all the retards who don't know what Doctor means.