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    Let's just be thankful that if Trump loses the 2024 election he won't get another chance due to age and health concerns. I am sure he will be a annoying vocal insect until the day he dies but at least he won't be anywhere near the Oval Office again.
    "The customer is always right" is a nice way of saying "I will put up with your bullshit as long as you pay me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    Let's just be thankful that if Trump loses the 2024 election he won't get another chance due to age and health concerns.
    To bring up my recurring failure, I did say in 2020 he would read the polls, realize he was going to lose, fake an illness/injury and drop out.

    The current polls, and his legal defense being "crown myself God-Emperor", prevent this. He will run for office while in a cremation urn if he has to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    How good are things in the US right now?

    FOX News is running the White House cocaine story again.



    Yeah, this is a story from July.
    Who is "Primetime"? Is this show sentient?

    Also, how've Jesse's ratings been? I've caught his bit a few times and it hasn't been impressive, he keeps trying jokes and they keep being deeply unfunny.

    I'd argue that if they're having to dig back 4 months to find a "Biden scandal" to talk about then things are going pretty damned good in the Biden administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    To bring up my recurring failure, I did say in 2020 he would read the polls, realize he was going to lose, fake an illness/injury and drop out.

    The current polls, and his legal defense being "crown myself God-Emperor", prevent this. He will run for office while in a cremation urn if he has to.
    You think Trump can mentally and physically (health) ride that McDonalds train to 2028?
    "The customer is always right" is a nice way of saying "I will put up with your bullshit as long as you pay me"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    You think Trump can mentally and physically (health) ride that McDonalds train to 2028?
    Oh, fuck no. Have you seen Armageddon?

    "Can they physically survive the trip?"
    "Personally, I don't know how they survived the tests."

    In addition to his weight and age, Trump's mind isn't even as clear as it was in 2016, which in turn wasn't great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Oh, fuck no. Have you seen Armageddon?

    "Can they physically survive the trip?"
    "Personally, I don't know how they survived the tests."

    In addition to his weight and age, Trump's mind isn't even as clear as it was in 2016, which in turn wasn't great.
    You sure you're not thinking of Space Cowboys? Because that seems applicable here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwyrm View Post
    You think Trump can mentally and physically (health) ride that McDonalds train to 2028?
    No and no. And I think trump losing twice in a row (which the sane and rational world is very much hoping he does) would very clearly end any chance he has. His lawsuits and criminal trials would have come to a conclusion by that point as well.

    I think most republicans outside of trump’s sycophants roll their eyes at the thought of voting for trump, but will do it because he tows the line of their single-button issue or “just isn’t a filthy democrat.” They’ll be extra done if he loses yet again and then starts up with his same unhinged bullshit and expects people to care for four more years beyond that. And that’s to say nothing as to how he’ll appear as a two-time complaining loser to moderates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    I have to disagree. In 10 years, he'll be sainted just like Reagan was.
    He has to die before that will happen, because he sure aint being deified by anyone but his cultists while his mouth still moves. Trump doesn't even have the "kindly grandpa" persona Reagan had to float his image along, and Trump doesn't have anyone pulling an Ollie North and falling on the sword for the numerous Iran-Contra level scandals Trump's got going on, or a "but we were fighting the communists!" red herring to placate the American people.

    And Reagan's name has become much more rightly maligned in recent years, especially for young people who are far more in tune with the things he did to demonize the LGBTQ+ population an erode social programs and safety nets.


    If the GOP loses this upcoming presidential election (again, God willing)... I think they're in serious trouble as a party on a national scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    I'd say Trump's around the same level of appreciation from Republicans as Reagan in the last half of his 2nd term. "Clearly fading, but man the memories he gave us!"

    Sainthood of Reagan began around, what, Clinton's 2nd term? Massive retcon of his presidency, life, and terrible fucking policies, all because he made them feel awesome when he told Gorbachev to tear down that wall. Massive overspending on defense, trickle-down economics, response to the AIDS epidemic, the crack epidemic, getting in bed with the NRA? All good things!

    I really wish these people would look into Reagan's life in politics. Dude was calling Medicare communism in the fucking 60s. They always forget to mention that Reagan took one look at Barry Goldwater's new conservative movement and said "nope, fuck that, not conservative enough".
    Sure. But Reagan was intensely popular, even during his presidency, largely because of the folksy home-spun all American image he put out. Hell, I'd imagine most people in the baby boomer generation would say they "respected" Reagan, regardless of their political leanings. That isn't true of Trump.

    Trump doesn't have that energy. The people who love Trump don't think he has that energy. They like that he's an obnoxious, boorish loudmouth who "tells it like it is" and "hurts the liberals' feelings." I feel that image wont bear out very well in the future, especially with the incredibly public scandals and law suits laid directly at Trump's feet.

    Nixon and the Bushes didn't have the "lasting appeal" of Reagan. You'd be hard pressed to find a republican who said they proudly supported any of those presidents. And seeing as unpopular as Trump is (he never won the popular vote, remember that) I don't think many people will be eager to let the narrative around him slide to "he was actually a good man" in the public consciousness.

    But hell, I'll gladly take "the republicans try and make Trump look like a saint" if it means they're doing it following his second failed run for president.



    ...And just so no one gets it twisted, I'm not defending Reagan or his terrible policies that eroded many of the safety nets and progressive policies in place in the country, his demonizing of minorities, resistance to civil rights, or his roughshod and jingoistic underhand dealings. I'm just giving an assessment of how he was perceived. Trump has all of that baggage and none of the "but he looks, sounds and acts like your grandpa" going for him.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Sure. But Reagan was intensely popular, even during his presidency, largely because of the folksy home-spun all American image he put out. Hell, I'd imagine most people in the baby boomer generation would say they "respected" Reagan, regardless of their political leanings. That isn't true of Trump.
    Yeah, even if you didn't like his politics, Ronald Reagan was warm and friendly and affable. He was likeable as a person, at least. And, despite his many faults and the catastrophic long-term effects of his policies, in the short term (for reasons both in and out of his control) he presided over a strong economy. It's worth remembering that he won re-election in 1984 with an electoral college vote of 525-13. He took literally every state except Minnesota and DC. As you said, none of that is true of Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Sure. But Reagan was intensely popular, even during his presidency, largely because of the folksy home-spun all American image he put out. Hell, I'd imagine most people in the baby boomer generation would say they "respected" Reagan, regardless of their political leanings. That isn't true of Trump.

    Trump doesn't have that energy. The people who love Trump don't think he has that energy. They like that he's an obnoxious, boorish loudmouth who "tells it like it is" and "hurts the liberals' feelings." I feel that image wont bear out very well in the future, especially with the incredibly public scandals and law suits laid directly at Trump's feet.

    Nixon and the Bushes didn't have the "lasting appeal" of Reagan. You'd be hard pressed to find a republican who said they proudly supported any of those presidents. And seeing as unpopular as Trump is (he never won the popular vote, remember that) I don't think many people will be eager to let the narrative around him slide to "he was actually a good man" in the public consciousness.

    But hell, I'll gladly take "the republicans try and make Trump look like a saint" if it means they're doing it following his second failed run for president.



    ...And just so no one gets it twisted, I'm not defending Reagan or his terrible policies that eroded many of the safety nets and progressive policies in place in the country, his demonizing of minorities, resistance to civil rights, or his roughshod and jingoistic underhand dealings. I'm just giving an assessment of how he was perceived. Trump has all of that baggage and none of the "but he looks, sounds and acts like your grandpa" going for him.
    But he does. Not mine in particular, but that racist grandpa who still grumbles about how Those People ruined this great and glorious country. All of them did. Even women. But not your grandma. Grandma's just clumsy...and forgetful, but you've gotten better yet haven't you? Just needed me to give her a little guidance.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    But he does. Not mine in particular, but that racist grandpa who still grumbles about how Those People ruined this great and glorious country. All of them did. Even women. But not your grandma. Grandma's just clumsy...and forgetful, but you've gotten better yet haven't you? Just needed me to give her a little guidance.
    I’m sure some people have slimeball businessmen for grandfathers, but most don’t.

    As I said, trump has never ridden a wave of “American good will.” He’s very easy to detest and many people do indeed detest him. I see no reason to think any of those things will change.
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    Words to live by.

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    So Biden made a bit of an oopsie-doodle and called Xi Jinping a dictator (which he is). Presumably the 'correct' answer, at least in regards to foreign relations, would be to push the question off with something like, "That's not what we're here to talk about today, this is about furthering peace." or something like that.

    Conservatives will, of course, attack him no matter what he says in reply to such a question, so shrug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    So Biden made a bit of an oopsie-doodle and called Xi Jinping a dictator (which he is). Presumably the 'correct' answer, at least in regards to foreign relations, would be to push the question off with something like, "That's not what we're here to talk about today, this is about furthering peace." or something like that.

    Conservatives will, of course, attack him no matter what he says in reply to such a question, so shrug.
    I don't think that's an "oppsie". Not the wisest diplomatic moment (see Blinken's cringe response), but it's still completely and totally accurate. It does take a bit of wind out of the sails of their otherwise productive meetings, but he's absolutely, 100% correct even if he was diplomatically inelegant.

    My mams was complaining about him referencing cue cards during questions on Israel and like...yeah that's not surprising and is sensible. It's a rapidly developing situation and he can't be constantly briefed on the latest (there's a lot going on!) and it's a situation that requires careful language - see Trudeau ceasing fire midway through the word "Ceasefire" because he caught himself before saying the thing his government does not openly support at the moment - and having some cards in front of him with some notes is prudent and practical.

    There's a weird notion that a POTUS should be all knowing and an expert on every single topic in the world, ready to have deep and comprehensive answers at a moment's notice and that's such a fantasy. Yes, they get briefed and all that, but the administration has tons of specialists and relevant experts in those areas spearheading much of that work and doing the briefing and shit. Where relying on some notes or something is viewed as some kind of negative/bad thing and not literally the type of thing that happens all the time. There's an incredible amount of theater and production any time a world leader like POTUS speaks officially or takes questions, we just rarely get a glimpse of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    Yep definitely a pet peeve of mine.

    I think the difference for me is that Biden hasn't really come out as acting all-knowing. Trump did. When you come out saying you know everything, you're gonna get dinged for not knowing something.
    One guy knows that when talking about an extremely volatile and fast-changing war to reference his cue cards prepared with the latest developments and administration messaging.

    The other guy walks up to podiums to confidently riff on the possibility of injecting sunlight or bleach into the human body to kill a virus.

    In the spirit of Giancarlo Esposito, these two are not the same. And it's not so much of an issue of potayto potahto, either.

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    https://twitter.com/AndrewJBates46/s...04977122910212

    Fox News reports that Biden is facing questions from voters about his age, even in his recent stop in Nantucket.

    This report by Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson is technically accurate.

    Because if you listen closely, the person asking him a question about his age is Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson himself. I do recall some old maxim about not making yourself part of the news story, but I don't think anyone believes Fox reporters that go on television actually have any ethical standards or anything.

    Biden said no, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://twitter.com/AndrewJBates46/s...04977122910212

    Fox News reports that Biden is facing questions from voters about his age, even in his recent stop in Nantucket.

    This report by Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson is technically accurate.

    Because if you listen closely, the person asking him a question about his age is Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson himself. I do recall some old maxim about not making yourself part of the news story, but I don't think anyone believes Fox reporters that go on television actually have any ethical standards or anything.

    Biden said no, btw.
    Man, being a "reporter" for Fox sounds like an easy job.
    If there isn't any story, one can just make a story up. Incredible!
    Do they hire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Fox News reports that Biden is facing questions from voters about his age, even in his recent stop in Nantucket.

    This report by Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson is technically accurate.

    Because if you listen closely, the person asking him a question about his age is Fox News reporter Lucas Tomlinson himself.
    Hey Edge- has this Tomlinson mentioned that Trump is facing questions about his age, based on Trump's many public slipups, and the fact that he'd be as old Jan 20 2025 as Biden is right now? Also that Trump is dangerously overweight and his doctor is lying again?

    And also, how do you feel about having McDonalds brought to the courtroom?

    Staff delivers at least 6 'yuge' bags of McDonald's to Trump trial in Manhattan

    Trump has previously admitted to feeling better about eating fast food from McDonald’s and Wendy’s due to hygiene and food-prep concerns, as well as taste.

    "I’m a very clean person. I like cleanliness, and I think you’re better off going there than maybe someplace that you have no idea where the food’s coming from. It’s a certain standard," he said in a 2016 interview. "I think the food’s good," he added.
    Yes, 2016, when Trump was still an anti-vaxxer but thought fast food was clean.

    Why yes, I will take one point for that headline and also one point for citing Tomlinson.

    Speaking of Trump on trial, it's not looking great. He's not lovin' it, he's not having it his way, and he's definitely not on Twitter.

    Former U.S. attorney and legal analyst Barbara McQuade said Sunday that lawyers for Donald Trump make "very misleading" arguments over the former president's repeated attacks against judges and court staff.

    On Monday, a New York appeals court is expected to review whether to reinstate a gag order imposed on Trump by Judge Arthur Engoron, who is overseeing his civil fraud trial, that was temporarily lifted last week by an appellate judge who raised free speech concerns.

    In an interview with MSNBC host Katie Phang on Sunday, McQuade spoke about Trump's repeated attacks, adding that the former president's lawyers' arguments over the gag orders have looked at cases outside of the context of court, a move she describes is "very misleading. "
    "What's with that extra space at the end?"

    I just cut and paste, dude.

    "One of the things that the [Trump] lawyers have done, that is very misleading here, is to look at cases outside of the context of court, of opinion criminal cases. You know, prior restraints are frowned upon of course. Anything that limits core political speech is antithetical to the First Amendment," McQuade said.

    She added that those outside cases that Trump's lawyers refer to in their arguments are different, stating that we are in the world of a trial and "those rules are different."

    "That's not the world that we are in. We are in the world of a trial. And so inside a trial to protect the parties, to protect court staff and to protect the fair administration of justice, those rules are different. And so I hope that the court sees the light and understand the very threat on the one hand versus the restriction on the other," she said.
    Engoron has received death threats. The purpose of a gag order seems pretty clear in this context.

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    https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...ct-2023-11-23/

    MELBOURNE, Nov 23 (Reuters Breakingviews) - Lawmakers in South Korea blasted the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act as a betrayal. European Union leaders worried it would leave the bloc’s companies at a disadvantage. And big miners like Australia’s Fortescue (FMG.AX) said it left them little choice but to direct a lot of spending to the United States. Yet concerns about market distortion from the policy intended to stimulate investment in the energy transition and signed into law by President Joe Biden in August 2022 are easing. Other countries are realising they need to adapt the blueprint.

    The Biden administration’s willingness to negotiate on its package of $370 billion of tax breaks and other measures has helped. That has mollified fears among major U.S. allies that the legislation’s push to boost manufacturing stateside would shut them out. Seoul lobbied hard with decent success, for example, to allow electric vehicles manufactured in South Korea and sold in the United States to be eligible for the IRA’s $7,500 tax credit. Australia struck a deal with Washington in May over critical minerals that paves the way for companies Down Under to gain access to the legislation’s financial benefits, while the European Union is still in discussions over those and other issues.
    Boy, that Inflation Reduction Act that a lot of folks panned sure seems like it might actually have been a good longer-term idea at the end of the day with other nations following our leadership on this. Funny how that keeps happening with policies from this administration, they keep ending up being good overall.

    - - - Updated - - -

    https://archive.is/rlaA2

    More on the topic of Biden doing far better than he gets credit for, while also continuing to overdeliver on the whole "boring presidency" bit. When was the last White House scandal? Was it the bit of cocaine found from a few months back? Maybe Major biting the Secret Service? Could be the $200K loan repayment that House Republicans continue to assert is really scary, but overall...Biden doesn't need Teflon to ensure controversies and drama doesn't stick to him. He doesn't surround himself with it. ANYWAYS

    I realize that to note that Joe Biden is boring is not exactly breaking news. Michael Schaffer of Politico wrote more than a year ago that Biden not only kept his promise to be unexciting but also “over-delivered.” My friend Molly Jong-Fast this fall noted for Vanity Fair that “[Team Biden’s] superpower, its ability to slide under the radar while getting a lot done for the American people, may also be its Achilles heel, holding back the administration from getting the credit it deserves.” She places much of the blame on the media—a fair cop—but I think a lot else is going on that has less to do with Biden and more to do with the voters themselves.
    Largely, this is on point. Elsewhere recently I was lamenting how people thing POTUS influences gas prices or the recent bubbling back up of that OUTRAGEOUS $16 MCDONALDS MEAL FROM A YEAR AGO (CNN is writing about it again, ignoring that the price accurately reflected someone purchasing a pricier seasonal burger, adding an extra patty, making it a meal, and then making it a large meal. The headline isn't the price of the burger, it's the ignorance of the consumer there, but I digress) and think Biden has significant influence there.

    When in reality POTUS doesn't have too much influence over the price of either raw crude/refined gas or the price of a burger. Why do people think POTUS does? Because they keep implying that they do in articles like this rather than making it clear that POTUS has little influence over either.

    Yes, people are stupid and like splashy headlines as well, but this is a two way street and the class of media that's supposed to be informing us hasn't been doing that for quite some time. At least not informing us well.

    The deeper problem is that America years ago entered a “post-policy” era, in which the voters simply stopped caring very much about the nuts and bolts of governing. Rather than policy, they care about politics as a spectator event—much like sports or reality television—and they want it to be exciting. They want to root for heroes and heels; they want to feel high charges of emotion, especially anger; they want their votes to express a sense of personal identification with candidate.

    Biden can’t fulfill any of those desires. That’s to his credit, but it’s killing him politically.
    Back to the CNN piece, something like 58% of respondents to a poll on the economy blamed Biden's economic policies for making economic conditions worse! What was left unsaid, was likely also the reality that the majority of those 58% of folks couldn't name more than one single economic policy (the Inflation Reduction Act) if they're lucky. BUT I DIGRESS AGAIN.

    Yeah, and a lot of media have similarly stoked this sports-eque nonsense. See the framing of the 2016 or 2020 debates even by less partisan media. It was a spectacle. It was red vs. blue. Who wins, who loses. All competitive sports shit when that's not what politics is supposed to be. But hey, that's what draws in eyes and attracts viewers and drives revenue so that's where these for-profit media companies must go.

    This was only one focus group. But a few weeks ago, the Times also spoke with Democratic voters who were more enthusiastic about Vice President Kamala Harris than about Biden, and the answers were equally incoherent. One respondent, a lifelong Democrat, said in the poll that “she would vote for Mr. Trump over Mr. Biden, whom she called ‘too old and a bit out of touch’ and ‘a bit of a doofus.’” By the end of the interview, she said she’d probably vote for Biden again, but “I’m just not happy about it.”
    I mean, I can get this. I'm not exactly thrilled to vote for Biden, and I wasn't in 2020. But he's done a fine enough job (surprisingly good, actually) and there's not a single Republican running that I think would do a better job, so I'll be happy to vote for the boring old guy who does a fine job instead. I don't need to feel personally super excited to make a good decision though, not all good decisions are super exciting. Eating more salad and less steak is a good decision, generally, and while I imagine most folks would agree with that sentiment you'd probably find few folks happily giving up their steaks for more salad.

    Voters rarely have ideologically consistent views, but they generally used to care about policy. In the post-policy era, they care about personalities. Abortion seems to be the one issue that has risen above the “post-policy” problem, but it is the exception that proves the rule: The Republican assault on abortion rights is now so extensive and relentless that voters can’t help paying attention to it. But even on that issue, Biden faces voters such as the one the Times interviewed who said that “she strongly supports abortion rights—and did not realize that Mr. Biden does, too. She said that because states’ abortion bans had gone into effect during his presidency, she assumed it was because of him.” Once, we might have expected such contradictions among low-information voters, but when even partisans are confused, candidates face the problem that most voters are low-information voters—a natural advantage for Trump (whose voters rely on their emotional attachment to him) but an obstacle for Biden.
    I'll continue to weep for how few Americans give any of a shit about politics and how grossly ignorant most Americans seem to be both in terms of current politics (who's in office, what laws are being passed etc.) and also the political basics (see the Trump presidency, where America got a fantastic crash course in a lot of really basic civics shit and a lot of the more arcane rules and procedures for things like formally inviting the POTUS to the House to deliver the SotU) like what our three branches of government are.

    And it sucks that Republicans, seemingly without shame, have few issues lying to, manipulating, and appealing to those low-information voters. Democrats really need to figure out a better strategy here, but the fact that a voter would think state-level policies have anything to do with POTUS doing something speaks volumes to how uninformed too many voters are.

    But voters’ obsession with bad news even when the news is good is a global problem, and one that predates Biden. Americans, in particular, are susceptible to what the political scientist Brendan Nyhan has called the “Green Lantern” theory of the presidency. The Green Lantern, for you non-nerds, is a comic-book hero with a ring that can manifest almost anything he imagines, as long as he concentrates hard enough. Trump cleverly promises such powers: He claims that something shall be done by his will, and his fans and base voters never care whether it actually gets done or not.

    Biden, however, lives with this magical-thinking expectation from his own voters. If Biden only wanted to, he could forgive student loans. If he willed it, he could stop the Israel-Hamas war. If he so ordered, he could reverse all prices back to 2019 levels.
    Big yes. Seen a lot of this kind of sentiment in these parts, too. Magical thinking always sounds really good, and it can feel good in the moment at times, but it's still just magical thinking at the end of the day.

    Ultimately, I think there's a lot of truth to the "post-policy" era of politics. We've long been moving towards personalities over policies - see political dynasties that have existed in the US for a long while now, see the "I can see myself sitting down for a beer with them." comments, see some of the adoration around popular politicians like Reagan and Obama while they were in office respectively. It sucks though, because policy is what matters at the end of the day.

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    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1730040394883191221

    We might have finally found Dark Brandon's own #DijonGate!

    Thanks to Jesse Watters, who still seems to be struggling to fit into Tucker's former spot and deliver the kind of incisive criticisms and incendiary rhetoric Tucker and Bill did before him.

    First off, apparently he has a thing against men using straws. The pursing of the lips, wrapping them around such a dainty little thing. The underlying homophobia is so thick it's suffocating. Straws are for women and children (is he a groomer?!), apparentely.

    Well, Dark Brandon used a straw while sipping a drink while shopping, and a big honkin straw, too. A thick, girthy lookin one with stripes and everything. That's bad.

    Now surely this isn't a completely serious dig, though it's genuinely hard to tell when Fox hosts are "joking" vs. when they're serious as none of them are remotely funny (sorry, Greg Gutfield, you've never been funny).

    But all the same: Just a reminder of how Dark Brandon has dramatically overdelivered on a boring, scandal-free presidency so far.

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