Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Orange Joe]

Don’t bother - these guys are illustrating the real problem with hard left liberals - more interested in ideological purity than in winning, attacking anyone who expresses any view a bit more conservative than their own.

That is what you got from his post? And you are suppose to be a teacher? No wonder you have the issues you do.

[Dontrike]

He didn't just "mess up a name", and it's not a stupid talking point at all that the guy currently in charge and who wants to keep being in charge for another 4 years is visibly moribund. I get that people are overly defensive because he's 'our guy' but the dishonesty over his fitness is exasperating. It's ok to acknowledge what the whole world can see.

And it's okay to realize that not only does the other guy do the same thing, but he does it more often and far worse. This age thing oddly only comes up with Biden while the other guy is constantly in need of taking dementia tests to the point where he thinks he's taking intelligence tests and "winning", shits himself enough that people know his smell, needs two hands to drink water, and I can keep going.

These two are old, no doubt, but isn't weird how the focus is on Biden for an investigation they couldn't get anything on him so they oddly just said he'd get away with it even if he did do something and even though they are only about three years apart only one we have to worry about their age?

I hate to say this I really do but Trump has good genetics and looks better than Biden. If you consider his lifestyle and body composition him being alive is proof enough, Biden on the other hand looks like he is the crypt keeper. I am not sure if he had surgery done but it looks bad.

If that sort of things really matters to you, I guess that's something. Could also be that Trump hasn't worked a day in his life and stress has never actually affected his physical well being. If it wasn't for the comb over he's had for the past couple decades, the constant fake tan he has, and the likely team of people he has had doing his look for years and years he'd look just as bad, if not worse.

[Draco-Onis]

If that sort of things really matters to you, I guess that's something. Could also be that Trump hasn't worked a day in his life and stress has never actually affected his physical well being. If it wasn't for the comb over he's had for the past couple decades, the constant fake tan he has, and the likely team of people he has had doing his look for years and years he'd look just as bad, if not worse.

I never said that it mattered to me but it does matter to the general population and obviously Biden since he freaked out and had a press conference over it.

[Flarelaine]

She was extremely knowledgeable and might have been the best person to be a sovereign wielding absolute power, but she was a bad politician, and that's important in a society where you need to work with other people to get the job done. In every race she ever entered, she underperformed expectations because she couldn't connect with people. Politics is a popularity contest - both with the public and other politicians - and she just wasn't good enough at getting people to like her to ever be very successful.

Being on the spectrum, I fail to see that as a fault. In any event, I look for leaders I can follow intellectually.

[Kaleredar]

He didn't just "mess up a name", and it's not a stupid talking point at all that the guy currently in charge and who wants to keep being in charge for another 4 years is visibly moribund. I get that people are overly defensive because he's 'our guy' but the dishonesty over his fitness is exasperating. It's ok to acknowledge what the whole world can see.

And like I said. Even if that all were true, he’d still be preferable to Trump.

[Elegiac]

Calling Obama a “less divisive” candidate sure is one way of admitting you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, lol.

[DarkAmbient]

And like I said. Even if that all were true, he’d still be preferable to Trump.

It is true, and I doubt anyone sensible is saying that it makes Trump the better option.

[Somewhatconcerned]

Trump couldn't even remember his wife in the E. Jean Carroll case, not remembering a date isn't that big of a fucking deal.

Not remembering dates (not just a year or two off, several), not remembering names of world leaders, shuffling around to find the exit after a "speech."

He is rapidly declining right in front of us. It's borderline elder abuse IMO. Absolutely no way he would finish another 4 years, and a better than 50% chance he may not make it to November.

[Easo]

@btlcryct - "With us, or against us."
Welcome to this forum where a ne..., ahemm, gamer calls you an asshole because you did not vote, nor did tens of millions of others thus ascertaining his superiority over them and Elegiac adding to this claiming that you basically have to for vote Democrats only as everything else is worthless.

Do you people even listen to yourselves...? Rhetorical question, mirrors have become a deficit item.
P.S.
Btw. Elegiac - economic value? Yeah, ok, bubble of service economy and the trillion dollar overblown capitalizations of likes of Apple/Amazon,etc. sure does give pretty numbers. Just do not look over the pond xD

[Elegiac]

claiming that you basically have to for vote Democrats only as everything else is worthless.

Noticing a distinct lack of you offering any actual counter to that argument besides declaring that it's ridiculous.

Btw. Elegiac - economic value? Yeah, ok, bubble of service economy and the trillion dollar overblown capitalizations of likes of Apple/Amazon,etc. sure does give pretty numbers. Just do not look over the pond xD

"The economy isn't big in a way that's convenient to my beliefs therefore it isn't really big" is such a bullshit sour grapes argument dude, do better.

[Somewhatconcerned]

@btlcryct - "With us, or against us."
Welcome to this forum where a ne..., ahemm, gamer calls you an asshole because you did not vote, nor did tens of millions of others thus ascertaining his superiority over them and Elegiac adding to this claiming that you basically have to for vote Democrats only as everything else is worthless.

Do you people even listen to yourselves...? Rhetorical question, mirrors have become a deficit item.
P.S.
Btw. Elegiac - economic value? Yeah, ok, bubble of service economy and the trillion dollar overblown capitalizations of likes of Apple/Amazon,etc. sure does give pretty numbers. Just do not look over the pond xD

Dem cult exists.

[Elegiac]

Dem cult exists.

Yeah? Is the Dem cult in the room with us right now?

[Somewhatconcerned]

Yeah? Is the Dem cult in the room with us right now?

Yeah, I just replied to one of its members.

[Elegiac]

Yeah, I just replied to one of its members.

Please do explain how this is the position of a "Dem cultist", then:

Shift one's perspective to where the political parties are structural elements of the American political system rather than a sports team.

The Democrats "will do" because they are the structural element within which necessary reform is possible, as opposed to the Republicans being the structural element dedicated entirely to obstruction.

[Kaleredar]

Not remembering dates (not just a year or two off, several), not remembering names of world leaders, shuffling around to find the exit after a "speech."

He is rapidly declining right in front of us. It's borderline elder abuse IMO. Absolutely no way he would finish another 4 years, and a better than 50% chance he may not make it to November.

I tell you what, champ.


Get Trump to drop out of the running for the exact same reasoning, and then we'll see about nixing Biden.

[Edge-]

Yeah, I just replied to one of its members.

It's weird because Democrats are largely just resigned to the reality that Biden is, at worst, the less-bad choice we will be presented with in November. But that's apparently a cult.

Meanwhile Donald is telling his cult followers insane shit on the daily and they believe it and are excited to vote for a guy who also won the 2020 election but had it stolen from him.

The projection continues to be weird.

[Elegiac]

It's weird because Democrats are largely just resigned to the reality that Biden is, at worst, the less-bad choice we will be presented with in November. But that's apparently a cult.

Meanwhile Donald is telling his cult followers insane shit on the daily and they believe it and are excited to vote for a guy who also won the 2020 election but had it stolen from him.

The projection continues to be weird.

Ikr? Bitches really out here thinking they fell out of a coconut tree when they exist in the context of all in which they live and came before them.

[Benggaul]

Dem cult exists.

Herp derp much?

The vast majority of the folks here have been saying that, while there's no real evidence of actual dementia despite ramblings of the GOP to the contrary, Biden's not their favorite choice. He is, however, still a few orders of magnitude better than Trump to have in office and considering he actually surrounds himself with competent staff as opposed to Trump it is far preferable for him to win a second term than Trump--who has shown more signs of actual dementia than Biden has.

Just because people push back on your dumbass comments that doesn't mean the're "all in" on Biden or the Democrats. And the fact that one of your only cheerleaders here is an armchair general who is consistently wrong says loads.

[masterhorus8]

Herp derp much?

The vast majority of the folks here have been saying that, while there's no real evidence of actual dementia despite ramblings of the GOP to the contrary, Biden's not their favorite choice. He is, however, still a few orders of magnitude better than Trump to have in office and considering he actually surrounds himself with competent staff as opposed to Trump it is far preferable for him to win a second term than Trump--who has shown more signs of actual dementia than Biden has.

Just because people push back on your dumbass comments that doesn't mean the're "all in" on Biden or the Democrats. And the fact that one of your only cheerleaders here is an armchair general who is consistently wrong says loads.

And even if they did have comparable levels of mental difficulties, one surrounds himself with competent people that try to do their job. The other is a vindictive, narcissistic, asshole that surrounds himself with money grubbing yes-men. It's not hard to pick between the two for someone with any sense of actual empathy or understanding of how the world works.

EDIT: I do also just love this general re-using of terms they hear without understanding the required context or nuance needed. The whole kindergarten "I know you are, but what am I" attitude is a great touch.

[postman1782]

Not remembering dates (not just a year or two off, several), not remembering names of world leaders, shuffling around to find the exit after a "speech."

He is rapidly declining right in front of us. It's borderline elder abuse IMO. Absolutely no way he would finish another 4 years, and a better than 50% chance he may not make it to November.

Like Trump has done without signing legislation that he made a big spectacle of setting up a press conference for, or wandering around a motorcade because he didn't know which car to go to even though the Secret Service was shuffling his fat ass to it.

Biden is healthier than Trump, Trump literally has been wearing diapers since the Apprentice as far as we know.