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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    This is a tad extreme.

    ...I didn't say it was wrong, however. Simply put, yes, compromising with people whose sole political motive is revenge and hatred is a flawed premise. "I see that you have broken into my house and want to take my belongings, let's compromise, you can take half of them and I won't call the police". That's just stupid. I don't see the GOP compromising and letting half the undocumenteds stay.
    I get that it comes off as "extreme", but is it really more extreme than the shit Republicans say on the daily? They're saying the same stuff about gay and trans people existing, or immigrants seeking a better life, or people who have socialist views, or anyone who's not white, or anyone who's not Christian, etc. They want those people dead or kicked out of the country. They'll say so right out in the open.

    I'm just suggesting that kind of hate not be tolerated. You can't fight Republican extremism through moderation and cooperation. They're a rhetorical bomb, primed and ready to go off, and the trigger is them winning House and Senate and President in a single election. Maybe work to disarm it before that bomb goes off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I'm just suggesting that kind of hate not be tolerated.
    Indeed. Simply put, the Party of Trump has not only pushed itself into a party built out of hatred, but hatred that can never be satisfied. They reject even their own members when they ask for compromise. There is no negotiation with that.

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    Conservatives are absolutely SHITTING THEIR PANTS over the Laken Riley part, claiming he said "Lincoln Riley" on purpose to disrespect her. Conservatives obviously have never cared about respect. They will disrespect everyone then cry foul and scream civility politics when someone is even slightly mean to them. But Biden wasn't even being mean. You can tell that he's clearly trying to say her name correctly but all of the chuds want to claim that he disrespected her on purpose. These people are gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Conservatives are absolutely SHITTING THEIR PANTS over the Laken Riley part, claiming he said "Lincoln Riley" on purpose to disrespect her. Conservatives obviously have never cared about respect. They will disrespect everyone then cry foul and scream civility politics when someone is even slightly mean to them. But Biden wasn't even being mean. You can tell that he's clearly trying to say her name correctly but all of the chuds want to claim that he disrespected her on purpose. These people are gross.
    They're just mad about everything since Katie Britt's response was so utterly humiliating and, too many of them, emasculating.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jacked-u...-union-speech/

    Some conservatives like Hannity are honest-to-gosh upset that allegedly senile octogenarian Joseph Robinette Biden had so much energy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Biden did what he needed to do...Republican response was the worst ever
    If nothing else her audition tape to be one of the weirdo baddies in makeup and wigs in an upcoming Hunger Games movie is on fucking lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Biden did what he needed to do...Republican response was the worst ever
    Sen. Britt assassinated by Black Widow on live TV.

    See, I'm not just a Senator. I'm a wife, a mother, and the craziest bitch in the Target parking lot.

    I'm worried about the future of our children, and thiis is why I've invited you to this strange, empty kitchen. Because Republicans wanted me to appeal to women voters, and women loves kitchen.

    But first and foremost, I'm a mom, and like any mom, I'm going to do a pivot out of nowhere into a shockingly violent story about sex trafficking. And rest assured, every detail about it is real, except the year, where it took place, and who was President when it happened.

    And now, I'm going to get really seductive for no apparent reason.

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    I tried to give every benefit of the doubt in regard to how Garland handled the January 6th prosecutions. But keeping too many Trump holdover, and setting them up as special prosecutors. Is just plainly dumb, deffinately worth firing.

    The GOP congress is inviting former US Attorney Rober Hur to testify today! Emphasis on former, he quit on yesterday, he's no longer bound by DOJ rules.

    Who could have predicted that appointing a lifelong GOP hack to investigate Joe Biden would produce a GOP hack job?

    Robert Hur, the former Trump-appointed US Attorney who declined to prosecute President Joe Biden after classified materials were found in his Delaware home and a former office in Washington, DC, will appear before the House Judiciary Committee as a private citizen who has surrounded himself with Republican partisans and notorious figures linked to former president Donald Trump as he prepares for his Tuesday appearance before the House Judiciary Committee.

    According to multiple sources familiar with Mr Hur’s plans, the special counsel, who is appearing before the Judiciary Committee at the request of the Republican majority led by Ohio Representative Jim Jordan, has arranged his departure from the Department of Justice to be official as of Monday 11 March, one day before he is scheduled to appear on Capitol Hill.

    Instead of appearing as a DOJ employee who is bound by the ethical guidelines which govern the behaviour of federal prosecutors, he will appear as a private citizen with no constraints on his testimony.

    A Judiciary Committee source said Mr Hur’s departure from government service the day before he testifies is a major red flag for Democrats on the panel.

    “That makes it even more problematic from our perspective … if he was still a federal employee, DOJ would have to approve his testimony and they’d be involved in his appearance tomorrow,” they said.

    In addition to the timing of his departure raising alarms among the Judiciary Committee minority, sources have also been alarmed by Mr Hur’s choice of associates during the lead-up to his appearance.


    Who could it be?
    The Dersh?
    Prof John Turely?

    Mr Burck is a former federal prosecutor who served on the team responsible for prosecuting media personality Martha Stewart during his tenure as an Assistant US Attorney in the Southern District of New York. But he left the department in 2005 for a position in the White House, where he served as a Deputy Counsel to then-president George W Bush, then later as a Special Counsel to Mr Bush and a deputy White House Staff Secretary.

    Though he has been in private practice since Mr Bush left office in 2009, Mr Burck has retained ties to the former president and remains well-connected in Republican political circles.

    During the DOJ probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election led by former FBI director Robert Mueller, Mr Burck represented three Trump White House officials, Mr Trump’s first White House counsel, Don McGahn, his first chief of staff, Reince Priebus, and his 2016 campaign chairman and White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon. And he has served as a board member of the Fox Corporation, operator of the right-wing, Republican-aligned Fox News Channel, since 2021.

    Upon Mr Bush’s departure from the White House he designated Mr Burck as one of his official representatives to the National Archives and Records Administration. He has retained that position to this day, and he gained a measure of notoriety in the role in mid to late 2018, when he was put in charge of reviewing more than 100,000 pages of Bush-era records related to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s work in the Bush White House as a deputy White House counsel.

    Mr Burck, as Mr Bush’s representative, advised the Trump White House to invoke executive privilege to prevent Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee from reviewing the documents during Mr Kavanaugh’s confirmation process after Mr Trump nominated him to serve on the Supreme Court.

    At the time, he said in a letter explaining the decision that the records which were withheld from the Senate “reflect deliberations and candid advice concerning the selection and nomination of judicial candidates, the confidentiality of which is critical to any president’s ability to carry out this core constitutional executive function”. . . .

    A Judiciary Committee source noted that both men have long histories as Republican partisans, citing Mr Hur’s work as Principle Associate Deputy Attorney General at a time when then-Attorney General William Barr was working to minimise political damage to Mr Trump from the report produced by the Mueller investigation and Mr Burck’s efforts to block Senate Democrats from viewing the Bush-era documents related to now-Justice Kavanaugh.

    The source told The Independent that Mr Hur’s legal team has not been particularly communicative with the Democratic side of the panel during the run-up to the former special counsel’s testimony. Combined with Mr Hur’s decision to seek advice preparing him for testimony from former Trump-era DOJ spokesperson Sarah Isgur, the source said Mr Hur’s appearance has Democrats quite alarmed.

    Ms Isgur, who headed the department’s Office of Public Affairs under then-attorney general Jeff Sessions and advised then-deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein during the Mueller probe, left the department during the final years of the Trump administration and has since been attempting to reinvent herself as a journalist.

    She currently serves as a senior editor for The Dispatch and is a paid contributor to ABC News, but her behind-the-scenes work prepping Mr Hur was first reported by Axios. A source familiar with Mr Hur’s plans also confirmed Ms Isgur’s involvement to The Independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    I tried to give every benefit of the doubt in regard to how Garland handled the January 6th prosecutions. But keeping too many Trump holdover, and setting them up as special prosecutors. Is just plainly dumb, deffinately worth firing.

    The GOP congress is inviting former US Attorney Rober Hur to testify today! Emphasis on former, he quit on yesterday, he's no longer bound by DOJ rules.

    Who could have predicted that appointing a lifelong GOP hack to investigate Joe Biden would produce a GOP hack job?
    I love how in the full transcript that has apparently come out Biden is repeatedly remembering long ago events in great detail including trips to Mongolia where he showed an unexpected aptitude for archery.

    It sure reads like Hur selectively chose to highlight Biden failing to remember some details - in the immediate aftermath of a major attack on Israel and during an interview that lasted over three hours - and ignored examples of his excellent memory in order to create a narrative.

    Which I thought wasn't what these reports were supposed to do if I recall the Mueller report correctly. That's what the AG is supposed to do in incorrectly, dishonestly, and intentionally before anyone has had a chance to see the report so he can create the narrative.

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    “You said to President Biden, ‘You appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the House,’” Swalwell said. “Did you say that to President Biden?”

    Hur conceded that “those words do appear on Page 47 of the transcript.”

    Swalwell pressed further.

    “‘Photographic’ is what you said, is that right?” he asked.

    “That word does appear on Page 47 of the transcript,” Hur responded.

    “Never appeared in your report, though. Is that correct? The word ‘photographic’?” Swalwell asked.

    “It does not appear in my report,” Hur said.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rober...b01707c6d1f807

    With a link to the exchange at the hearing.

    Damn, I'm beginning to thing that Hur might be some kind of partisan engaging in selectively partisan attacks.

    Edit: Really, if nothing else this alone should ensure that Merrick Garland is a one-term AG. He's not Biden's personal attorney or anything nor should he behave like it, but allowing this report to be released as-is despite contradictory comments from the special counsel on Biden's memory is unacceptable. I'm not asking for him to go out and Bill Barr this - host a press conference before anyone can see the report to create a dishonest narrative not entirely supported by the contents of the report itself, but come the fuck on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Yeah this report is not glowing. Long thread incoming

    Thread: Hur report includes many photos of Biden's handling of classified docs.
    Hur writes that Biden's practices "present serious risks to national security" and that Biden "willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency"
    https://axios.com/2024/02/08/robert-hur-biden-classified-documents-report


    Letter in link but not showing Biden's lawyer statement. In next post Bauer says Biden held up in five hour testimony.

    Once more image of document but not going to spam images.

    Umm so he gets off cause he is old? I get what he is saying, the jury would be sympathetic, but damn.

    I can see people saying bias here cause of Republican prosecutor? I mean he has the testimony of Biden going in out of his memory, facilities.

    have to post this cause of all the fun we made fun of Trump's storage. Geez ex-Presidents you are worse than me in storage.

    Alright so I can't find one but Biden did show this to someone. Maybe it's here but this is pretty damning if he showed documents.

    Hur: "Biden handed Zwonitzer a notebook entry about a [NSC] meeting in the Situation Room and asked if Zwonitzer could read Biden's handwriting...Biden warned Zwonitzer, 'Some of this may be classified, so be careful,'"and added, "I'm not sure. It isn't marked classified, but..."
    My guy, care to revise in light of Hur's testimony? Anyone else that fell for Robert Hur’s embarrassing MAGA fan fiction?

    Hur's report was full of fragments as pull quotes with vague context.
    House Judiciary Democrats released the transcript of the Joe Biden interview (October 8, October 9).
    It's pretty clear to see why Hur delayed the release of those transcripts.
    Hur and fellow hack Sarah Isgur also pulled this hide-a-transcript tactic when they went after Peter Strzok and Lisa Page on Trumps behalf during his presidency.
    In those transcripts, Biden had correctly and forcibly stated the date of Beau’s death, showing that’s a lie.
    The transcript is also important, for the way it shows that Hur and Mark Krickbaum, another former Trump US Attorney, repeatedly tried to sandbag the President into admitting culpability, only to have the old geezer point out their logical flaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    My guy, care to revise in light of Hur's testimony? Anyone else that fell for Robert Hur’s embarrassing MAGA fan fiction?
    If Biden keeps Garland as AG in a second term he'll deserve everything he gets. Holy shit how did Garland review the transcript and say, "Yep, call him a forgetful old man despite repeat examples of him remembering things from years ago in great detail, and absolutely misrepresent how Biden remembered the day his son died immediately but someone else interjected with the year and not that Joe Biden couldn't remember the year."

    Garland is a fucking disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    My guy, care to revise in light of Hur's testimony? Anyone else that fell for Robert Hur’s embarrassing MAGA fan fiction?
    The most godfucking damned bit of the whole thing was this bit of questioning by Rep. Swalwell;

    SWALWELL: You said to President Biden, you have — appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the House. Did you say that to President Biden?

    HUR: Those words do appear on page 47 of the transcript.

    SWALWELL: Photographic is what you said. Is that right?

    HUR: That word does appear on page 47 of the transcript.

    SWALWELL: Never appeared in your report, though. Is that correct? The word photographic?


    HUR: That does not appear in my report.
    https://www.mediaite.com/news/dem-sw...-it-in-report/

    Continuing on to show clips of Trump blathering about utter bullshit and losing his train of thought mid-sentence regularly is just icing on the shit cake.

    Hur should be criminally prosecuted for this kind of malice. And before anyone says "under what law", I'm saying there should be a law. He lied to Congress. Openly and unapologetically. To manufacture a knowingly false character attack on the sitting President.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    My guy, care to revise in light of Hur's testimony? Anyone else that fell for Robert Hur’s embarrassing MAGA fan fiction?

    That post was over a month ago and idk why you had to seek out this post. Damn you got me.

    Oh wait!!!

    So I get the Dems are going to spin and counter punch the report by Hur on Biden. That Hur was pontificating in the report about Biden's memory and senility. Alright, then maybe Dems should get the picture. Garland appointed this guy, when now I see reports for Garland catching some heat for this appointment.

    If this is the case then we really are effed that maybe from here on we can never get a "unbias" report. Mueller tried and that did shitted the bed on Trump interference, no doubt helped by Barr.

    Biden will pay in some way for this is some way but perhaps next time Dems should stop being polite when they think appointing a biased person will not give you blowback.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54385489

    Dang seems I followed up with a post about how the DOJ scolded Hur emphasizing his cognitive abilities. I called out Hur's hackery and rightfully so criticized Garland for playing nice and appointing this guy.


    I get it you get mad when I criticize Biden. Let it go. Stop having blind loyalty to a person when there is discussion. It's funny we make fun of people who never criticized Trump and he could never do any wrong. Just Let it Go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    That post was over a month ago and idk why you had to seek out this post. Damn you got me.

    Oh wait!!!



    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54385489

    Dang seems I followed up with a post about how the DOJ scolded Hur emphasizing his cognitive abilities. I called out Hur's hackery and rightfully so criticized Garland for playing nice and appointing this guy.


    I get it you get mad when I criticize Biden. Let it go. Stop having blind loyalty to a person when there is discussion. It's funny we make fun of people who never criticized Trump and he could never do any wrong. Just Let it Go.
    Criticizing Biden is one thing, but it was pretty damn obvious that report was full of bullshit when it had to go out of its way to insult Biden randomly. Like, what report of this sort just went "that guy's a douche"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The most godfucking damned bit of the whole thing was this bit of questioning by Rep. Swalwell;



    https://www.mediaite.com/news/dem-sw...-it-in-report/

    Continuing on to show clips of Trump blathering about utter bullshit and losing his train of thought mid-sentence regularly is just icing on the shit cake.

    Hur should be criminally prosecuted for this kind of malice. And before anyone says "under what law", I'm saying there should be a law. He lied to Congress. Openly and unapologetically. To manufacture a knowingly false character attack on the sitting President.
    Doesn't it fall unde libel/slander or defamation?

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    Attorney General Merrick Garland: "Apple has maintained monopoly power in the smartphone market, not simply by staying ahead of the competition on the merits, but by violating federal antitrust law."

    The Justice Department sued Apple on Thursday, alleging the company illegally maintained a monopoly over smartphones in a wide-ranging lawsuit.

    The DOJ was joined by 16 bipartisan state attorneys general in the lawsuit filed in New Jersey , which alleges that Apple limits competition and hurts consumers, developers and small businesses through its operation of the company’s App Store, limiting the functions of third-party smart watches and hurting the quality of cross-platform messaging


    Aww, look at Joe and the DOJ actually going after some anti-trust. The Big One Apple, basically them making paywalls and gatekeeping on the App store.

    Big Three (No source or link):

    Apple prevents the successful deployment of what the DOJ calls "super apps" that would make it easier for consumers to switch between smartphone platforms.

    Apple blocks the development of cloud-streaming apps that would allow for high-quality video-game play without having to pay for extra hardware.

    Apple inhibits the development of cross-platform messaging apps so that customers must keep buying iPhones. The DOJ specifically highlights the frequent consumer complaint of seeing a message sent from a non-iPhone device show up as green instead of the standard iMessage blue — and with fewer features than one sent between two iMessage users.
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    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    The government has been going after tech companies for antitrust breach for more than a decade. I don’t think this a first for Apple.

    DOJ has gone after Google 5 times. The last one was filed in early 2023 and going to trial September 2024.

    FTC has an antitrust case against Meta that was filed in 2020. Still no trial date.

    Multiple cases against Amazon. Last one filed in September 2023.

    The companies’ strategy is simple - delay, delay, delay, and delay more.

    Worked pretty well so far.

    Amazon went from online retail to online and physical retail, grocery, pharmacy, warehousing, shipping and delivery, electronic (Alexa, FireTV, etc.), cloud computing (Azure), database, logistic, etc.

    Meta’s Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp are consistently in the top 5 global downloaded apps. Facebook and Instagram download, user and product engagement last year grew faster than TikTok. I think Instagram product engagement grew by 39% in 2023 while TikTok only grew by 7%.

    Did a quick check. This is a first for Apple. Surprised that it took them this long to go after Apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Did a quick check. This is a first for Apple. Surprised that it took them this long to go after Apple.
    It is surprising, Apple seems like one of the most egregious offenders, from a consumer perspective.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    It is surprising, Apple seems like one of the most egregious offenders, from a consumer perspective.
    I think they are all pretty bad within their niche field.

    Google dominance in search engine has decreased. However, the company has diversified into cloud computing, AI, etc.

    Meta is still the king of social media. After losing ground to TikTok for 3 years in a row, it made a comeback in 2023. Their strategy is "if we can't buy you out, we'll copy your product and drive you out of business."



    There are five Meta platforms in the top 10.

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    One of the best parts of the Biden Administration that has flown under the radar of the online discourse. Having indigenous representation has led to meaningful changes. Deb Haaland as the head of Interior and Charles Sams as the head of the National Park Service has had a huge impact on management because it has centered Native Americans. Almost all the new national monuments Biden has created have come out of Native attempts to save natural spaces from the always present Settler Mentality of many state governments. Especially out west. Something that east coaster or internationalists might not appreciate.
    The latest is returning some of Redwood National Park to the Yurok People. Yurok Tribe, which had 90% of its territory taken during the gold rush, will get 125 acres returned after it was stolen in the mid-1800s.
    California’s Yurok Tribe, which had 90% of its territory taken from it during the gold rush of the mid-1800s, will be getting a slice of its land back to serve as a new gateway to Redwood national and state parks visited by 1 million people a year.

    The Yurok will be the first Native people to manage tribal land with the National Park Service under a historic memorandum of understanding signed on Tuesday by the tribe, Redwood national and state parks and the non-profit Save the Redwoods League.

    The agreement “starts the process of changing the narrative about how, by whom and for whom we steward natural lands”, Sam Hodder, president and CEO of Save the Redwoods League, said in a statement.

    The return of the 125 acres (50 hectares) of land – named ’O Rew in the Yurok language – more than a century after it was stolen from California’s largest tribe is proof of the “sheer will and perseverance of the Yurok people”, said Rosie Clayburn, the tribe’s cultural resources director. “We kind of don’t give up.”

    For the tribe, redwoods are considered living beings and traditionally only fallen trees have been used to build their homes and canoes.

    “As the original stewards of this land, we look forward to working together with the Redwood national and state parks to manage it,” Clayburn said. “This is work that we’ve always done, and continued to fight for, but I feel like the rest of world is catching up right now and starting to see that Native people know how to manage this land the best.”


    It ties into nicely with the damn removals happening along the Klamath River. Which the Yurok spent decades fighting for. These are things which would not happen under a Trump adiministration.

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    Dude, that's awesome! Good for them. I really hope those lands, even if 125 acres isn't a ton of land, do well under their stewardship.

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