Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I'm not saying you're wrong but in the regime I'm living in, some government moves cannot be explained away as yielding any profit beyond the sick satisfaction of a power trip.

There's always money involved. Might not be upfront...but there's always something. Maybe it's just luxury yacht trips and private jet flights. Maybe when you tire of "public service" you get yourself a nice cushy corporate job at one of the companies who just happened to benefit from those laws you helped pass and/or block.

[Xyonai]

What stupid are you going on about?

Ran out of things to spin in the Russia war thread, decides to shitpost here as if anyone with a brain would harp praise and bow at the feet of a stupid publicity stunt.

[gondrin]

Putin touring in asia, NK, Vietnam, dunno what's next, but I got to thinking, what world leader, or, which one of you would get into a car driven by Biden?

I think that is an important question.. anyone defending biden's health should have no problem being in the same car as biden behind the wheel...

At least Biden knows how to drive. I am pretty sure your Orange Savior doesn't even know how to put a car out of park let alone drive one since he was always driven around.

There is nothing wrong with not knowing how to drive, much like everything else, mocking someone for not doing something or doing something poorly(which Biden doesn't have an issue doing) while supporting someone who does not or cannot do something due to lack of skill is cause for derision directed towards you.

[Draco-Onis]

Jealousy does not suit you well. Sorry Biden can drag race sweet cars and you're jelly about it.

Unsure what "can drive a car" has to do with ones ability to lead a nation, but maybe you can paint that picture for me?

It shows your leader is in the driver seat, that he can step on the gas of the economy and brake through any trouble. Let me know if you need more car puns for a bad comedy tour.

[some guy]

It shows your leader is in the driver seat, that he can step on the gas of the economy and brake through any trouble. Let me know if you need more car puns for a bad comedy tour.

Please don't, it's exhausting.

[Odinfrost]

You two will drive me crazy

[DarkTZeratul]

https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/...-military-laws

Biden has pardoned every veteran convicted under old military laws prohibiting sodomy, allowing them to apply for updates to their discharge status or reapply for benefits.

[Poopymonster]

https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/...-military-laws

Biden has pardoned every veteran convicted under old military laws prohibiting sodomy, allowing them to apply for updates to their discharge status or reapply for benefits.

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[AntiFascistVoter]

What Obama did to the coal industry, Biden has done 10x to big oil. Shame he isnt getting much credit for it.
But totally not-ratfucking-orgs are too busy screaming about betrayal and spray painting paleolithic monuments.



Amazing we're at such a tipping point. Global warming is getting worse, but have technologies to mitigate parts of it. There's just enough political will to push those technologies to widespread adoption. But the biggest so called allies are just ignoring it.

[Benggaul]

What Obama did to the coal industry, Biden has done 10x to big oil. Shame he isnt getting much credit for it.
But totally not-ratfucking-orgs are too busy screaming about betrayal and spray painting paleolithic monuments.

Amazing we're at such a tipping point. Global warming is getting worse, but have technologies to mitigate parts of it. There's just enough political will to push those technologies to widespread adoption. But the biggest so called allies are just ignoring it.

"Biden is killing jobs!" or something similar will be the reply. If any.

[Captain N]

"Biden is killing jobs!" or something similar will be the reply. If any.

It's literally the reply from union railroad workers who cling onto coal carloads and scream about the furloughs that will happen once coal goes. Yet coal continues to lead the carload count and there are guys who hired out in 2018 still furloughed because reasons...

[AntiFascistVoter]

"Biden is killing jobs!" or something similar will be the reply. If any.

Tried starting a thread to look into the vibecession. But it's one of those blind spots I think most people would not look into.
Paul Krugman pointed to this as well.

What people say, versus what they do, part 10,000



This is also a part of why polls are so broken.

[cubby]

The Debate tonight is going to be utter popcorn. With Trump stepping even more over his feet (and feats!), and the word salad that has somehow only gotten worse, it should be a hoot and a holler. I also still see long odds that Trump backs out at the last minute - citing what ever drivelish lies he needs to to continue feeding his whorish MAGAts.

Biden just has to show up, stay alert and focused, dodge Trump's bullshit outbursts and he wins. Policy, logic, facts, and reality are all on Biden's side.

[Benggaul]

Policy, logic, facts, and reality are all on Biden's side.

Sure, but the media isn't. All it will take is one stutter and that's all that will be in the headlines the next day. He never should have agreed to debate someone as fundamentally unserious as Trump.

[Poopymonster]

The Debate tonight is going to be utter popcorn. With Trump stepping even more over his feet (and feats!), and the word salad that has somehow only gotten worse, it should be a hoot and a holler. I also still see long odds that Trump backs out at the last minute - citing what ever drivelish lies he needs to to continue feeding his whorish MAGAts.

Biden just has to show up, stay alert and focused, dodge Trump's bullshit outbursts and he wins. Policy, logic, facts, and reality are all on Biden's side.

I'd kill for an AI to read the transcripts in Muppet voices.
Moderator: Sam the Eagle
Biden: Floyd Pepper
Trump: The Swedish Chef

[Shadowferal]

Trump Reveals His Idiotic Debate Talking Points for Some Reason
He just … tweeted it out.


Note that Trump’s comments on the environment don’t make a single reference to climate change, as during his presidency he marked himself as one of the many Republicans who is staunchly in denial about the existential threat of global warming.

Biden’s campaign hit back, noting that Wheeler is a former coal lobbyist.

Wheeler took over the EPA from Scott Pruitt in 2019 and immediately set about deregulating the agency, repealing Obama’s Clean Power Plan, and removing restrictions on U.S. fossil fuel power plants put in place to lower their carbon dioxide emissions. In general, Trump’s approach to climate legislation seemed to be to just undo everything from the previous administration—and that appears to be his plan again if he’s elected in November.

Trump won’t be able to actually use any pre-written talking points during the 90-minute debate. Each candidate will only be given a bottle of water, a blank pad of paper, and a pen while onstage. According to CNN’s terms, their campaign staff will be unable to communicate with them during the breaks.

It’s really not clear why Trump would bother to share his talking points. Maybe he doesn’t think he’ll get the chance to say them; maybe he doesn’t think he can actually remember them.

...fucking stupid as usual.

[Odinfrost]

Trump Reveals His Idiotic Debate Talking Points for Some Reason
He just … tweeted it out.


Note that Trump’s comments on the environment don’t make a single reference to climate change, as during his presidency he marked himself as one of the many Republicans who is staunchly in denial about the existential threat of global warming.

Biden’s campaign hit back, noting that Wheeler is a former coal lobbyist.

Wheeler took over the EPA from Scott Pruitt in 2019 and immediately set about deregulating the agency, repealing Obama’s Clean Power Plan, and removing restrictions on U.S. fossil fuel power plants put in place to lower their carbon dioxide emissions. In general, Trump’s approach to climate legislation seemed to be to just undo everything from the previous administration—and that appears to be his plan again if he’s elected in November.

Trump won’t be able to actually use any pre-written talking points during the 90-minute debate. Each candidate will only be given a bottle of water, a blank pad of paper, and a pen while onstage. According to CNN’s terms, their campaign staff will be unable to communicate with them during the breaks.

It’s really not clear why Trump would bother to share his talking points. Maybe he doesn’t think he’ll get the chance to say them; maybe he doesn’t think he can actually remember them.

...fucking stupid as usual.

I... have one big problem with one of the talking points. Chinese solar panels instead of American energy... He... He does know that American energy companies buys the solar panels and then sell that energy to Americans, therefore making it American energy. Right? RIGHT?
Oh, whom I kidding, of course he doesn't.

[cubby]

Sure, but the media isn't. All it will take is one stutter and that's all that will be in the headlines the next day. He never should have agreed to debate someone as fundamentally unserious as Trump.

Life is risk. That is Biden's only risk, however, whereas Trump is a veritable minefield of risk and outright pain points. Biden's opening statement/question could be, "I wonder how Mr. Trump feels about law abiding citizens voting for a convicted felon?".

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Trump Reveals His Idiotic Debate Talking Points for Some Reason
[i] He just … tweeted it out.

Trump is all about creating chaos to detract from his actions and consequences.

Most won't remember this, but in one of the Woodward books on Trump's time in the White House, he was quoted/paraphrased as saying "let's release [this info] about Ivana so they'll stop paying attention to [my actions].

This is what he does. And who he surrounds himself with. This is one of the many reasons he's an utter nightmare for the White House.

[Endus]

Trump Reveals His Idiotic Debate Talking Points for Some Reason
He just … tweeted it out.


Note that Trump’s comments on the environment don’t make a single reference to climate change, as during his presidency he marked himself as one of the many Republicans who is staunchly in denial about the existential threat of global warming.

Biden’s campaign hit back, noting that Wheeler is a former coal lobbyist.

Wheeler took over the EPA from Scott Pruitt in 2019 and immediately set about deregulating the agency, repealing Obama’s Clean Power Plan, and removing restrictions on U.S. fossil fuel power plants put in place to lower their carbon dioxide emissions. In general, Trump’s approach to climate legislation seemed to be to just undo everything from the previous administration—and that appears to be his plan again if he’s elected in November.

Trump won’t be able to actually use any pre-written talking points during the 90-minute debate. Each candidate will only be given a bottle of water, a blank pad of paper, and a pen while onstage. According to CNN’s terms, their campaign staff will be unable to communicate with them during the breaks.

It’s really not clear why Trump would bother to share his talking points. Maybe he doesn’t think he’ll get the chance to say them; maybe he doesn’t think he can actually remember them.

...fucking stupid as usual.

For fun and since this is partly in my wheelhouse;

CO2 emissions went down under Trump;


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US emissions continued to fall under Trump. The tipping point can be argued to be either under G.W. Bush or Obama. Trump's stealing credit, here. This trendline has continued, under Biden (the 2023 data that's not on that particular graph continues downward).

The Paris Climate Accord

There's no American dollars being sent overseas. It's about bringing emissions down. There's partnering with other nations to cooperate on technological developments and such, but the USA's gaining as much as it's giving there.

Climate and Tariff policies

Trump continues to not have a single fuckin' clue what a "tariff" even is. Tariffs are additonal fees applied to imported products. Their use is to increase prices of foreign goods and make locally-manufactured items at least competitive if not outright cheaper options. There is no functional way for tariffs on imports to make those imports more attractive to customers. Anyone who knows what tariffs are would know this. Your guess as to whether he's actually this stupid or just this dishonest. Most likely; both.

Biden policies importing more energy


Again, image pops to source for legibility.

Lower red line is US energy exports, green is imports.

The claim is just an objective lie. Biden's accelerated energy imports and continued to reduce energy imports over his term in office. Open, bald-faced, pants-on-fire bullshit on full spray.


Wheeler is a lying shitsack, in short. None of this shit is true. It's all wharrgarble that's meant to be fed to idiots who won't question the Orange Toadlord.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/26/bide...penalties.html

Another one of those boring, unsexy but meaningful things getting done -

The Biden administration on Wednesday said it will impose inflation penalties on 64 prescription drugs for the third quarter of this year, lowering costs for certain older Americans enrolled in Medicare.

President Joe Biden has made lowering U.S. drug prices a key pillar of his health-care agenda and reelection platform for 2024. A provision of Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act requires drugmakers to pay rebates to Medicare, the federal health program for Americans over age 65, if they hike the price of a medication faster than the rate of inflation.

It is separate from another provision under the law that allows Medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices with manufacturers. On average, Americans pay two to three times more than patients in other developed nations for prescription drugs, according to the Biden administration.

Some patients will pay a lower coinsurance rate for the 64 drugs covered under Wednesday’s announcement, which fall under Medicare Part B, for the period from July 1 to Sept. 30 “since each drug company raised prices faster than the rate of inflation,” according to a release from the administration.

Some Medicare Part B patients may save as much as $4,593 per day if they use those drugs during the quarter, the release added.

More than 750,000 Medicare patients use the drugs each year, according to the release. The medications treat conditions such as cancer, certain infections and a bone disease called osteoporosis.

The list includes Bristol Myers Squibb’s Abecma, a cell therapy for multiple myeloma; and Pfizer’s targeted cancer treatment for certain lymphomas called Adectris. It also includes Astellas Pharma and Pfizer’s Padcev, a targeted cancer treatment for advanced bladder cancer.

The Biden administration said Padcev’s price has increased faster than inflation every quarter since the Medicare inflation rebate program went into effect last year.

“Without the Inflation Reduction Act, seniors were completely exposed to Big Pharma’s price hikes. Not anymore,” Neera Tanden, White House domestic policy advisor, said in the release.

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services plans to send the first invoices to drugmakers in 2025 for the rebates owed to the program.

In December, Biden released a list of 48 prescription drugs that would be subject to inflation penalties during the first quarter of 2024.