Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Doctor Amadeus]

You are so close to a realization here.

Yeah let me see the polle of the same fever to remove the Supreme Court members or members of Congress.

Come on show me legitimately pushing these folks to step aside. Then more importantly show me it happening

[cubby]

Sounds like you are being manipulated by the Trump World brand. They are making a lot of noise about how Biden shouldn't be dropping out too.

We really have to do what's right for our party, and ignore the MAGAt/GOP. I'm not upset that Trump's team seems to be flipping the fuck out, and there are "rumors" that Vance is no longer the right pick.

(hey - is your profile sig quote from somewhere? i really like it)

[Nymrohd]

One of the things I really appreciate with this administration is the large number of unionizations. Bethesda actually unionized under the CWA a few days ago with Microsoft approval.

[Doctor Amadeus]

What a strange collection of words.

Yeah it’s called Perspective. The reason I’m against Trump isn’t because I’m liberal or democrat alone. It’s because even a OLD Biden is better than Trump.

But fuck that let’s just keep going with stupid narratives because click my link BS arguing

[Karreck]

Yeah let me see the polle of the same fever to remove the Supreme Court members or members of Congress.

Okay!

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...ourt-justices/

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...me-court-seats

https://stockton.edu/news/2023/hughe...mits-poll.html

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american...cted-officials

It’s because even a OLD Biden is better than Trump.

Are you saying that YOUNGER Harris is not better than Trump?

- - - Updated - - -

We really have to do what's right for our party, and ignore the MAGAt/GOP. I'm not upset that Trump's team seems to be flipping the fuck out, and there are "rumors" that Vance is no longer the right pick.

(hey - is your profile sig quote from somewhere? i really like it)

Oh yeah, I'm voting for the Dem, Harris or otherwise. But I am loving the chaos Biden dropping out has caused for Trump World.

(an old friend said it during her first D&D campaign, that's where I first heard it. I like it too)

[Doctor Amadeus]

Okay!

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...ourt-justices/

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...me-court-seats

https://stockton.edu/news/2023/hughe...mits-poll.html

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american...cted-officials

Nope. That’s not going to work. None of that has resulted in any of the above stepping down or being removed or being asked to step down by rank and file.

Reading all of what i said understanding it and not cherry picking a canned response was required.

[Belize]

Sounds like you are being manipulated by the Trump World brand. They are making a lot of noise about how Biden shouldn't be dropping out too.

"Woke Independent" Mall Cop walking in lockstep with Trump talking points?

Noooooo. Never.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Are you saying that YOUNGER Harris is not better than Trump?

I am saying this is the stupidest fucking outcome lead by morons, simps and misguided marks.

I am saying Bidens age is a moot fucking point, he wasn't and isn't on his deathbed, most if not all of this administration in place have a process by which many many hands between him and any kind of crises manufacture by Trumpeters or not.

Even if you HATE Biden personally, but are voting against Trump, I Biden win staying focused would have lead to IF, IF god forbid Biden did have a serious issue, Kamala would as a VICE PRESIDENT automatically take over because you know that is what a Vice President is even for.

There was Serious reason, precedent or concern for this Biden Stepping down BS.

[Karreck]

Nope. That’s not going to work. None of that has resulted in any of the above stepping down or being removed or being asked to step down by rank and file.

You wanted polls, I provided polls. Not my fault that what they say goes against your personal narrative.

"Woke Independent" Mall Cop walking in lockstep with Trump talking points?

Noooooo. Never.

I'm sure it's just all one big coincidence. /s

I am saying this is the stupidest fucking outcome lead by morons, simps and misguided marks.

I am saying Bidens age is a moot fucking point, he wasn't and isn't on his deathbed, most if not all of this administration in place have a process by which many many hands between him and any kind of crises manufacture by Trumpeters or not.

Even if you HATE Biden personally, but are voting against Trump, I Biden win staying focused would have lead to IF, IF god forbid Biden did have a serious issue, Kamala would as a VICE PRESIDENT automatically take over because you know that is what a Vice President is even for.

There was Serious reason, precedent or concern for this Biden Stepping down BS.

None of that answers my question, so I will rephrase.

If Old Biden is better than Trump, does that mean Younger Harris would be better or worse than Trump?

[Doctor Amadeus]

"Woke Independent" Mall Cop walking in lockstep with Trump talking points?

Noooooo. Never.

Actually there is no reason for me to NOT vote Trump, I sure as shit am NOT swayed by popular opinion.


I have ALMOST ZERO to lose with Trump as President, aside from being a PoC, that's it.


Lower Taxes

I already own Property that is paid off.

I am Christian

I believe in Strong Law and Order

I also support protecting the border and immigration reform.


There is ZERO reason NOT to vote for Trump based on that.


Except despite he fact a Trump win is an upside.


Personally Trump and those that support him are as close to EVIL as I think there is a thing for.


I am not a Trump Supporter, even now I will vote for whoever is put on the ticket. At the very least I will be voting Democrat straight down the line.



BUT that said, this was fucking Stupid, I don't imagine Trump losing now and in the end it will be the Stupidity THIS time mostly enough on the left that caused Trump to win.

- - - Updated - - -

You wanted polls, I provided polls. Not my fault that what they say goes against your personal narrative.
I'm sure it's just all one big coincidence. /s

Wrong THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE

Yeah let me see the polle of the same fever to remove the Supreme Court members or members of Congress.

Come on show me legitimately pushing these folks to step aside. Then more importantly show me it happening

This is you Cherry Picked Response

Okay!

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...ourt-justices/

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...me-court-seats

https://stockton.edu/news/2023/hughe...mits-poll.html

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american...cted-officials




Are you saying that YOUNGER Harris is not better than Trump?

- - - Updated - - -



Oh yeah, I'm voting for the Dem, Harris or otherwise. But I am loving the chaos Biden dropping out has caused for Trump World.

(an old friend said it during her first D&D campaign, that's where I first heard it. I like it too)

SO NO You just frothed at the the mouth to post BS rather than focus on the conversation we were having entirely

[Captain N]

Ah I just love when our resident "totally a liberal" comes here and lies about his life. I mean it's not like we haven't heard the same bullshit for years now and know none of it is real.

[Belize]

snip because of obnoxious spacing, brother there's no need to take up 20 inches of page

So very close to the mask falling off completely. Soooooo very very close.

Bonus points for lying about lower taxes (which are set to expire unless you're very very rich, which if you're arguing on MMOC you're not).
Extra super bonus points for ignoring Trump is a convicted criminal, "Law and Order" lol

[Doctor Amadeus]

If Old Biden is better than Trump, does that mean Younger Harris would be better or worse than Trump?

Um No its a moot point the narrative Biden was too old was never a fucking serious problem, it was pushed because stupid people went with it because plenty of people like with Hillary weren't happy with him as a Candidate, couple that with Trump Supporters, it doesn't then Matter how fucking old Biden is, or that Harris is Younger.


Because they are going to forget about it, and focus on calling Harris a Whore instead.


It wasn't a serious situation, but stupid people controlled and manipulated by media influence and polls wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, despite the very much bigger problem and threat which is TRUMP!


Thus Trump Wins.

- - - Updated - - -

So very close to the mask falling off completely. Soooooo very very close.

Bonus points for lying about lower taxes (which are set to expire unless you're very very rich, which if you're arguing on MMOC you're not).
Extra super bonus points for ignoring Trump is a convicted criminal, "Law and Order" lol

It doesn't matter if Trump will do all of what he says, the point is I am not losing anything by him winning personally. My reason for not voting for him is because aside from being Liberal and a Democrat is the Trump is Evil, I don't believe everything he says.


But IF I DID, again then I would be voting for Trump. Despite whatever IDEAS he spouts I might agree with, My actions are that I am not going to vote for him because of who I am and what HE stands for.

WHich is more than someone spouting unsubstantiated nonsense about not Voting for Biden because of (Reasons)

[Karreck]

This is you Cherry Picked Response

No it's not. You just don't like the results.

[Doctor Amadeus]

No it's not. You just don't like the results.

No you don't like the results an right on que you decided what the results were and waited with copy pasta to support that position.

You don't really even have an argument, you're just typing and pressing reply

[Karreck]

Um No its a moot point the narrative Biden was too old was never a fucking serious problem, it was pushed because stupid people went with it because plenty of people like with Hillary weren't happy with him as a Candidate, couple that with Trump Supporters, it doesn't then Matter how fucking old Biden is, or that Harris is Younger.


Because they are going to forget about it, and focus on calling Harris a Whore instead.


It wasn't a serious situation, but stupid people controlled and manipulated by media influence and polls wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, despite the very much bigger problem and threat which is TRUMP!


Thus Trump Wins.

You said

OLD Biden is better than Trump.

So, if Old Biden is better than Trump, is Younger Harris better or worse than Trump?

No you don't like the results an right on que you decided what the results were and waited with copy pasta to support that position.

You don't really even have an argument, you're just typing and pressing reply

Not liking the poll results doesn't make them wrong.

[Santti]

So very close to the mask falling off completely. Soooooo very very close.

Getting a little philosophical here, but just how many times can one mask fall?

[Doctor Amadeus]

So, if Old Biden is better than Trump, is Younger Harris would be better or worse than Trump?

Again it doesn't matter because age isn't the issue. Period, nobody thinks so NONE, and regardless to POLLS, nobody is seriously calling for anyone to step down or getting the same treatment as this Biden Issue.

- - - Updated - - -

Not liking the poll results doesn't make them wrong.

No reality and Context makes them wrong, and you cherry picking without a legitimate argument makes you WRONG!

[Belize]

It doesn't matter if Trump will do all of what he says, the point is I am not losing anything by him winning personally. My reason for not voting for him is because aside from being Liberal and a Democrat is the Trump is Evil, I don't believe everything he says.


But IF I DID, again then I would be voting for Trump. Despite whatever IDEAS he spouts I might agree with, My actions are that I am not going to vote for him because of who I am and what HE stands for.

WHich is more than someone spouting unsubstantiated nonsense about not Voting for Biden because of (Reasons)

If you think that Trump winning wouldn't somehow affect you, you're far, far more deluded that originally believed. Ignoring the dissolution of democracy for just a minute here, the wide ranging repercussions of Project 2025 would touch many aspects of your life.

Like, the deregulation of large corporations alone would take us back a century since they're chomping at the bit to increase shareholder value by cutting costs and dumping waste into water streams. And that's just a random example off the top of my head.

[cubby]

Again it doesn't matter because age isn't the issue. Period, nobody thinks so NONE, and regardless to POLLS, nobody is seriously calling for anyone to step down or getting the same treatment as this Biden Issue.

But it was the issue, argued on both sides, for both candidates. Biden was losing that discussion, and his performance at the debate and post-actions continued to hurt him and the Dems chances of wining the election.

Now, you're going to say "so was Trump - we should argue that towards him, too!".

And now we are. Free and clear of our own "old man" candidate. So all those criticisms of Biden being old, decrepit, cognitively declining - ALL look very bad now for Trump and his cadre of morons.

Who cares because Trumpers will vote for him regardless? Independents and undecideds care, and they will carry the election. Hopefully with Kamala on their shoulders.