Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[postman1782]

Harris went on FOX News and survived. She did not get successfully baited by any major question.

For example:



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There was also the bit when, asked about the Georgia ruling, she talked about Virginia then danced for 40 minutes. Oh, wait. That was someone else.

Yet, I see a lot of Republicans that didn't watch it say she got destroyed.

[En Sabah Nur]

I watched it, and she should not have done it.

She was awful on it and got caught in the trap so badly when Brier asked about Trump's cognitive decline that she went into a full-blown episode over it; he set her up for the obvious trap:" When did you find out about Bidens decline:" and she did not see it coming."

This has done more damage to her chances of winning, who ever thought it was a good idea to go for this interview should be fired.

This gamble did not pay off in any sense of the word.

You and I watched very different things. So different, in fact, that I thought the literal opposite of all you just said here.

She didn't bite any of the bait, certainly didn't have a "full-blown episode" about anything. What she did do, was call out the dishonesty on clear display. She behaved like an actual adult. But I realise that a lot of people have the idea that any time a woman might speak up on her own behalf, she's being emotional or out of control.

If anything, Brett Baier should be ashamed of himself. The first 10 minutes were him basically just trying to get gotchas, barely even letting her reply. the man might as well have been auditioning for a spot in a Trump administration. He even played Trump campaign ads.

[diller]

But, that interview was not it, I fail to see how anyone can think that went well unless your are a full on Zealot.

Why is it that your takes are ALWAYS completely the opposite of what pretty much everyone thinks?

You tend to sound somewhatconcerned.

[En Sabah Nur]

We certainly did see things very differently. I hope you actually watched the entire interview and not just some edited bits on MSNBC, etc. Her attempt to filibuster the majority of the interview was pretty stark.

I watched it as it aired, yeah. I'm not seeing how you came to the conclusion that she attempted to filibuster most of the interview. Can you give some examples?

But, that interview was not it, I fail to see how anyone can think that went well unless your are a full on Zealot.

Why is it that if someone has a different opinion to yours, they must be a "zealot"? You kinda poison the well in terms of any replies you're going to get after that. Anything I say in contradiction to what you think will just have you label me as such.

That said, I stand by what I posted in my original reply.

[Doomcookie]

I watched it, and she should not have done it.

She was awful on it and got caught in the trap so badly when Brier asked about Trump's cognitive decline that she went into a full-blown episode over it; he set her up for the obvious trap:" When did you find out about Bidens decline:" and she did not see it coming."

This has done more damage to her chances of winning, who ever thought it was a good idea to go for this interview should be fired.

This gamble did not pay off in any sense of the word.

She was wrong about Trump's cognitive decline?

She willingly went on a network that admits to lying for Trump, and pointed out that Trump is in cognitive decline. She has pointed out his corruption, rambling rants, and lies.

[Doomcookie]

I don't think she is wrong about it,infact I think Trump probably wont make a complete turn if he gets in, but the question was not about that, it was about Biden's cognitive ability, and she refused to answer that.

She comes off as a complete hypocrite, happy to go on about one presidents mental state but actually refusing to go on about one that is actually running the country right now.

The reason she is doing that network is to win voters over, not chase them away.

She went ringing around the roses, basically lying and obfuscating, when everyone knew Biden was in a terrible situation.

Put country first, not party first if you are going to go on that network.

She wants people to trust her, but she can't seem to tell the truth.

That's because it was a leading question, it was a perfect example of JAQing off.

There are no undecided voters. There's only people who decide to stay home. Nothing she did made people whoa re already Trump supporters become more enticed to vote.

Fox News paid hundreds of millions of dollars for their lies. People who watch Fox news want to be lied to. Voting for Harris is putting country first. She literally went on the network that is the admitted mouthpiece of the other party. She did exactly what you want her to do.

Why isn't Fox news concerned about Trump's cognitive decline? Why have they been propping him up for 9 years, through all the lies, and all the hypocrisy? Where was all the concern about that from them? Fox Literally exists to lie and obfuscate for Republicans. That is why they were created. Why do Trump supporters love him so much, when he lies to them constantly? This must really bother you, perhaps you can show some of your previous comments condemning Trump for being a corrupt liar. I look forward to you producing them.

[En Sabah Nur]

it was about Biden's cognitive ability, and she refused to answer that.

Except she didn't, did she?

The first part of her answer here is literally about Joe Biden. And then she quite rightly points out that Biden is not currently running for POTUS, Trump is, so why would she go on about Biden more than she does? She then talks about Trump and his very clear ongoing decline.

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Also, can I get something from you on this? Certainly some examples, at least.

I watched it as it aired, yeah. I'm not seeing how you came to the conclusion that she attempted to filibuster most of the interview. Can you give some examples?

Why is it that if someone has a different opinion to yours, they must be a "zealot"? You kinda poison the well in terms of any replies you're going to get after that. Anything I say in contradiction to what you think will just have you label me as such.

That said, I stand by what I posted in my original reply.

[PhaelixWW]

She comes off as a complete hypocrite, happy to go on about one presidents mental state but actually refusing to go on about one that is actually running the country right now.

She was asked a "have you stopped beating your wife" question. So she answered the question in the way it deserved:

"Joe Biden, I have watched from the Oval Office to the Situation Room, and he has the judgment and the experience to do exactly what he has done in making very important decisions on behalf of the American people."

Basically, she's saying that there has been no decline that impacts his ability to lead this country for the next 3 months, which is all the response the question warrants.

And she did that before she made the legitimate point that Biden is not on the ballot, but Trump is.

[Doomcookie]

She was asked a "have you stopped beating your wife" question. So she answered the question in the way it deserved:

Basically, she's saying that there has been no decline that impacts his ability to lead this country for the next 3 months, which is all the response the question warrants.

And she did that before she made the legitimate point that Biden is not on the ballot, but Trump is.

The interesting part about Biden, is that the information from the Bob Woodward book shows him to be genuinely competent behind the scenes. Unlike Trump, Biden has a firm grasp on foreign policy, and how to deal with enemies and allies.

[Doomcookie]

He is the current president and in charge of the nuclear codes. I think his cognitive ability is an important factor, especially when the second in command, the person to take over the reigns is basically lying and covering up for his decline.

You see, he is in decline, don't you? I certainly do.

At the end of the day, she is running for the most important, the most powerful position on the planet; she is meant to be a leader, not a scared sheep worried about rocking the boat or hurting someone's feelings.

If she wins, she will have to deal with scumbags like Putin and China; I want to see her be a lot stronger that she currently is.

Bob Woodard paints him as a capable diplomat and Commander in Chief, certainly more than Trump in both regards.

As was already pointed out, Fox news viewers love lies, so the real issue would be that she didn't lie enough.

Would you prefer that she bent the knee, and kissed Putin's ass? That must have somewhat concerned you when Trump did it all those times. Trump took millions of dollars from China, while he sat in office. Perhaps you can show your comments outlining your concern and disgust at how he handled Putin and China.

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As for the bit with Bidens cognitive decline, I think you should probably go back and watch it again, she goes into a word salad saying he is running circles around his staff.

Come on dude, the whole world has seen Biden over the last few months, its not like a secret, and her lying about it is annoying.

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The undecided voters, I don't think that is true, I mean why go on ~Fox news at all then.

I think there are still a number out there, and this election is going to be really close.

So every vote counts, but yer, just not the way she went about it.

You dodged and obfuscated.

[Shadowferal]

He is the current president and in charge of the nuclear codes. I think his cognitive ability is an important factor, especially when the second in command, the person to take over the reigns is basically lying and covering up for his decline.

A good thing she's in position to take over sooner than later.
Unlike der GropenFührer, who has shown he can't string a sentence together without losing his train of thought.

[Doomcookie]

How?

I hate Putin, and really dislike China, why are you trying to shift the conversation away from me wanting her to be a strong leader to something else?

You keep dodging what people are saying, in order to show your concern about something that didn't even really happen.

I'm questioning your motivation, which is why I specifically asked for you to show where you were concerned about those same things regarding the previous administration, and current GOP candidate. I figure that you must have displayed such concern while he was in office, and so his actions towards Putin and China would surely concern you. If you cannot point to any comments of yours in the past regarding those issues, that's fine.

[Sunseeker]

We seriously entertaining this clear Trump-poster who wants to steer the discussion back into more lies about Bidens health and Harris' honesty?

While literally every word that falls out of Trumps mouth is a stream of nonsensical gibberish or lies?

Report them and move on.

[Shadowferal]

We have already established Trump is a few spanners short of a toolbox, why are you trying to divert it back to that? .

Because Biden ain't running for president. And in a couple of weeks, your questions become moot.

[Doomcookie]

How?

I hate Putin and really dislike China; why are you trying to shift the conversation away from me wanting her to be a strong leader to something else?

This is about her refusing to acknowledge that Biden is in cognitive decline.

We have already established Trump is a few spanners short of a toolbox, why are you trying to divert it back to that?

I think we will end now, cant seem to have a proper conversation with the usual tribalism and party politics coming into play.

Not allowed to question the narrative, I get it.

Have a good one.

You added more, so I'll respond. This sure does feel a bit questionable, showing false concern in order to deflect for someone you actually support. Otherwise, you'd be able to show your definite concern for Trump's fealty towards Putin, as well as his backroom deals with China in order to line his pockets. If lies upset you, then I can only assume you can display comments of yours outlining such concern with the thousands of lies told by Trump, including covering for his relationship with Putin and China. Did these things concern you? Did her standard political answer concern you more than the deliberate lies told by Fox news and Donald Trump for years on end?

[En Sabah Nur]

basically lying

You've clearly settled on your opinions, and I can tell pointing out the reality won't move you in any way. The idea that she isn't a strong person, or is afraid to rock the boat after you saw how she pushed back against Baier's bullshit is simply laughable. All because she didn't go on and on about Biden, who isn't her opponent in this election. I'll trust someone that actually has daily contact with the man over someone who simply sees a handful of cherry picked clips. Look at some more clips and you'll see him perfectly fine in his responses. But, as I said, you've chosen which way you want to see this, and I won't waste more time on it. How dare this woman stick to the actual issues, and call out the bullshit of the interviewer, right?

[Attackrabbit]

The dude is a fan of Brexit and likes to run away when people aren't applauding his genius takes, no surprise he's peaced out of this thread in almost record time ^^

[Breccia]

She comes off as a complete hypocrite, happy to go on about one presidents mental state but actually refusing to go on about one that is actually running the country right now.

Biden isn't running for re-election. Harris is. And Harris specifically and directly pointed that out when asked.

Say what you want about Biden's mental health, he's not dancing for 40 minutes then talking about mixing sand and water and getting an award for it. This is yet another "both sides lol" like Biden finding two reports in his garage while Trump hid dozens and lied about it.

Not only is Biden's mental health nowhere near the concern some people think it is, it's not an election issue. We might as well be talking about Obama's mustard choices.

[diller]

I don't think she is wrong about it,infact I think Trump probably wont make a complete turn if he gets in, but the question was not about that, it was about Biden's cognitive ability, and she refused to answer that.

She comes off as a complete hypocrite, happy to go on about one presidents mental state but actually refusing to go on about one that is actually running the country right now.

The reason she is doing that network is to win voters over, not chase them away.

She went ringing around the roses, basically lying and obfuscating, when everyone knew Biden was in a terrible situation.

Put country first, not party first if you are going to go on that network.

She wants people to trust her, but she can't seem to tell the truth.

Here we go again with the weird takes, Biden is not running for president, if he was currently in a coma it wouldn't matter in the UPCOMING elections.

[Bodakane]

I don't think she is wrong about it,infact I think Trump probably wont make a complete turn if he gets in, but the question was not about that, it was about Biden's cognitive ability, and she refused to answer that.

She comes off as a complete hypocrite, happy to go on about one presidents mental state but actually refusing to go on about one that is actually running the country right now.

The reason she is doing that network is to win voters over, not chase them away.

She went ringing around the roses, basically lying and obfuscating, when everyone knew Biden was in a terrible situation.

Put country first, not party first if you are going to go on that network.

She wants people to trust her, but she can't seem to tell the truth.

Biden has 3 months left and Trump wants 4 years, so yeah the cognitive ability issue is EXACTLY the same.....sigh