Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

You're still doing it.

Trump pledged to fire Smith, the special prosecutor looking at his obstruction of justice and leading a violent terrorist insurrection.

You voted for Trump anyhow.

Your "concern" for Biden's corruption does not fit your public pledged behavior and is therefore dismissed as false. Also, be cautious about dismissing credibility while supporting Trump, who lied all the time about everything. Unless, of course, you're willing to admit "Trump has far less credibility than the Democrats, due to his years of public words and actions". Anything else will be dismissed as contrary to your public stated stance and therefore handwaved.

[Dontrike]

Corruption should always be called out, regardless.

Didn't Biden a few months ago claim he wouldn't pardon his son, and let the justice system do its thing?

Reason #15343 they are a dead party.

Why don't you try this again when Biden lies another 29,999 times and commits 90 felonies.

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Sorry, "but Trump" doesn't work anymore.

It does when his zealots (you) act like Biden doing this is a big deal when Trump was pardoning people that committed for worse crimes, and a lot more crimes. Try again, zealot.

[Somewhatconcerned]

You voted for Trump anyhow.

Nope. You can repeat this lie as many times as you want, still won't make it true.

[Breccia]

(non-answer given)

Failure to admit Trump is objectively worse counts as a non-answer. Attempting to change the subject counts as admission.

[NoiseTank13]

I really don't give a shit about this slice of corruption pie when there is an entire bakery of corrupted pies across the aisle.

Piss off.

[Captain N]

When we start seeing the January 6th clowns getting mass pardoned I'll be sure to return to this thread and check with the Rape Supporter to see if this is acceptable corruption to be SomewhatConcerned about.

[postman1782]

Corruption should always be called out, regardless.

Didn't Biden a few months ago claim he wouldn't pardon his son, and let the justice system do its thing?

Reason #15343 they are a dead party.

You just fucking elected a fucking felon as president, you can't fucking complain.

[tehdang]

There's something poetic about Joe Biden's description in the pardon. The Biden administration carried out a political prosecution, according to the head of the Biden administration. Might we wonder about other cases where the Justice Department was politicized under the Biden administration? This might be endemic under Garland, let's look into it!

He hands Trump everything he needs for a smooth pardon/commutation of J6 defendants. Trump says he's identified other cases like what happened to poor, poor Hunter, and he just must correct this injustice. None other than Biden said that the Biden administration's justice department was "infected" with "raw politics" and caved to "political pressure."

[DarkTZeratul]

There's something poetic about Joe Biden's description in the pardon. The Biden administration carried out a political prosecution, according to the head of the Biden administration. Might we wonder about other cases where the Justice Department was politicized under the Biden administration? This might be endemic under Garland, let's look into it!

Then you're grossly misreading it, because he's very clear that despite the Biden Administration playing by the rules and being as non-partisan as possible as they spent weeks presenting a plea bargain, the Conservatives rejected it anyway in favor of throwing the book at him.

He hands Trump everything he needs for a smooth pardon/commutation of J6 defendants.

Bullshit. Trump was almost certainly going to do that regardless and you know it. You think a president who pardoned everyone in his orbit convicted of fraud, or of lying to cover for him, or of obstructing justice, really needed to rely on precedent to unilaterally pardon the people who went to jail for attempting a goddamn coup to keep him in power?

[Edge-]

The Biden administration carried out a political prosecution, according to the head of the Biden administration.

It's almost like he doesn't direct the DoJ, as evidenced between this malarky (the general sentiment seems to be, "Nobody gets charged over this. Everyone takes a plea and nobody actually goes to court over this shit literally ever.") and the frustration with the lack of movement from the DoJ against individuals strongly disliked by liberals - say Donald Trump (New York moved fast, the DoJ moved at a glacial pace after years of the NARA fighting to get back classified documents Donald stole, hid, and lied about, which required an FBI search, signed off on by a judge, to retrieve them).

He hands Trump everything he needs for a smooth pardon/commutation of J6 defendants.

This does nothing of the sort, and that you think it does is depressing.

Trump says he's identified other cases like what happened to poor, poor Hunter, and he just must correct this injustice.

Or, because as we all know, the incoming administration has openly and repeatedly promised to weaponize its departments against political opponents and there's zero reason to believe they wouldn't go after Hunter in a big way given that they're still big mad their other attempts to weaponize him to go after his father didn't work.

Also let's be real here: Donald doesn't need any justification or excuse to do that. It was something he's discussed doing multiple times, long before this, and there's never any need for precedent for a commutation or pardon. I know this. You know this. But you still put on the little play all the same.

[Kaleredar]

How about we prosecute these crimes in the order in which the cases came up.

First we prosecute Trump, then we make our way to Hunter Biden, eh?

So we can all hush up until the case is able to move forward on Trump.





Aaaaaaany minute now…

[tehdang]

It's almost like he doesn't direct the DoJ, as evidenced between this malarky (the general sentiment seems to be, "Nobody gets charged over this. Everyone takes a plea and nobody actually goes to court over this shit literally ever.") and the frustration with the lack of movement from the DoJ against individuals strongly disliked by liberals - say Donald Trump (New York moved fast, the DoJ moved at a glacial pace after years of the NARA fighting to get back classified documents Donald stole, hid, and lied about, which required an FBI search, signed off on by a judge, to retrieve them).

The DoJ is a subservient department to the President within the executive branch of government. It isn't an independent branch or part of a different branch. When Biden criticizes his own DoJ for the manner of its prosecutions, it is the head of the Biden administration criticizing the Biden administration.

This does nothing of the sort, and that you think it does is depressing.

How so? Biden has found that his own administration miscarried justice, responding to political pressure, and Trump finds that more went on. Both rectify the problem.

Or, because as we all know, the incoming administration has openly and repeatedly promised to weaponize its departments against political opponents and there's zero reason to believe they wouldn't go after Hunter in a big way given that they're still big mad their other attempts to weaponize him to go after his father didn't work.

Also let's be real here: Donald doesn't need any justification or excuse to do that. It was something he's discussed doing multiple times, long before this, and there's never any need for precedent for a commutation or pardon. I know this. You know this. But you still put on the little play all the same.

Yes, let's be real here. Biden prosecuted his political opponents during his administration, which I gather you approve of. Trump will prosecute his political opponents during his administration, which I gather you oppose. You apparently approve of prosecuting political opponents as a general category of actions. Biden gets his (and calls Trump a crook and "nobody is above the law" etc), but Trump can't say he'll do the same?

You're comically covering up all the indictments and prosecutions of Biden's political opponents by moving your body and hands, because only then can you warn the country, "Beware! Donald is promising to prosecute his political opponents!" The cat's out of the bag, the toothpaste is out of the tube, and good luck shoving them all back in. The years of 2021-2024 support Trump's rhetoric, and sadly so.

[Gaidax]

I expected more than this from Biden, but I guess he just does not give a fuck about morals or optics anymore. He got thrown under the bus by his allies, so might as well get the most out of his current position even if it taints them.

Blood is thicker than water, after all

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The mental gymnastics here are hilarious, I have to say. Did we beautify Hunter Biden on his way to the sainthood yet?

[DingDongKing]

I expected more than this from Biden, but I guess he just does not give a fuck about morals or optics anymore. He got thrown under the bus by his allies, so might as well get the most out of his current position even if it taints them.

Blood is thicker than water, after all

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The mental gymnastics here are hilarious, I have to say. Did we beautify Hunter Biden on his way to the sainthood yet?

Meanwhile out in Trump World…

[Draco-Onis]

Meanwhile out in Trump World…

Trump supporters pretending they care about the law is peak cognitive dissonance but you'd have to be in that state to vote for the guy.

[postman1782]

I expected more than this from Biden, but I guess he just does not give a fuck about morals or optics anymore. He got thrown under the bus by his allies, so might as well get the most out of his current position even if it taints them.

Blood is thicker than water, after all

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The mental gymnastics here are hilarious, I have to say. Did we beautify Hunter Biden on his way to the sainthood yet?

You didn't say a FUCKING THING when Trump pardoned 140 people during his first term, and a great deal of them for money, so you can shut the fuck up.

[Aphelios]

i actually think hunter biden should never have been charged. wish him all the best

[Doomcookie]

Corruption should always be called out, regardless.

Didn't Biden a few months ago claim he wouldn't pardon his son, and let the justice system do its thing?

Reason #15343 they are a dead party.

Can you post where you called out Trump for trying to overthrow the government?

Or, were you not concerned?

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You're still doing it. Oh well.

Dems have zero credibility left, anyway. Good take:

https://x.com/WalshFreedom/status/1863400446569676813

You mean like people who spent years pretending to not be Trump supporters, but were actually lying the entire time?

You're saying you have zero credibility, thanks for putting to it.

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Nope. You can repeat this lie as many times as you want, still won't make it true.

I already provided the poll of you admitting to it.

You got caught in that lie.

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There's something poetic about Joe Biden's description in the pardon. The Biden administration carried out a political prosecution, according to the head of the Biden administration. Might we wonder about other cases where the Justice Department was politicized under the Biden administration? This might be endemic under Garland, let's look into it!

He hands Trump everything he needs for a smooth pardon/commutation of J6 defendants. Trump says he's identified other cases like what happened to poor, poor Hunter, and he just must correct this injustice. None other than Biden said that the Biden administration's justice department was "infected" with "raw politics" and caved to "political pressure."

Why do you support rape and treason?

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The DoJ is a subservient department to the President within the executive branch of government. It isn't an independent branch or part of a different branch. When Biden criticizes his own DoJ for the manner of its prosecutions, it is the head of the Biden administration criticizing the Biden administration.

How so? Biden has found that his own administration miscarried justice, responding to political pressure, and Trump finds that more went on. Both rectify the problem.

Yes, let's be real here. Biden prosecuted his political opponents during his administration, which I gather you approve of. Trump will prosecute his political opponents during his administration, which I gather you oppose. You apparently approve of prosecuting political opponents as a general category of actions. Biden gets his (and calls Trump a crook and "nobody is above the law" etc), but Trump can't say he'll do the same?

You're comically covering up all the indictments and prosecutions of Biden's political opponents by moving your body and hands, because only then can you warn the country, "Beware! Donald is promising to prosecute his political opponents!" The cat's out of the bag, the toothpaste is out of the tube, and good luck shoving them all back in. The years of 2021-2024 support Trump's rhetoric, and sadly so.

Why do you approve of rape and election fraud?

It's been a long time, and still no answer.

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I expected more than this from Biden, but I guess he just does not give a fuck about morals or optics anymore. He got thrown under the bus by his allies, so might as well get the most out of his current position even if it taints them.

Blood is thicker than water, after all

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The mental gymnastics here are hilarious, I have to say. Did we beautify Hunter Biden on his way to the sainthood yet?

You support a guy who literally committed worse crimes.

[En Sabah Nur]

Ah, I see we have the latest molehill for republicans to make a mountain of. The comparison to J6 rioters is a pretty hilarious one, as though giving them a pardon is fine now because Hunter Biden got a pardon. Totally the same level of crimes going on

Republicans are such jokers.

Reason #15343 they are a dead party.

I'd love to see a list of even 1000 of this more than 15000 reasons you have!

[Gaidax]

Meanwhile out in Trump World…

I mean, it's kind of funny given all that Dems accuse Trump and republicans of doing they practically do themselves. This merely is just another example of that.

Practice what you preach, braddah.