Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Belize]

January 6th can't come soon enough

Maybe you use a different calendar in Novosibirsk but generally speaking the correct date in the U.S. is Jan 20th

[Moralgy]

What happens on January 6?

The president is put into power!!! aka this poster knows so little about the process he just thinks the riots were that day.

[Trumpwonumad]

The president is put into power!!! aka this poster knows so little about the process he just thinks the riots were that day.

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes
President takes office on January 20th

lots of assumptions made for me saying January 6 can't come soon enough. Guess I should have put more context for some posters.

So here is a timeline on the process

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes
Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.

If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one-fifth of the members of the House and one-fifth of the Senators. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law. Only two grounds for objection are acceptable: that the electors of the State were not lawfully certified under a Certificate of Ascertainment, or that the vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.

If no Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution the House of Representatives decides the Presidential election. If necessary, the House would elect the President by majority vote, choosing from among the three candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. The vote would be taken by State, with each State having one vote. (The District of Columbia does not vote because it doesn't have voting members in the House of Representatives.)

If no Vice Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority or the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment the Senate elects the Vice President. If necessary, the Senate would elect the Vice President by majority vote, choosing between the two candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. Each Senator would have one vote.

And the full process for the people that don't know

November 5, 2024—Election Day
(first Tuesday after the first Monday in November*)

During the general election your vote helps determine your State's electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you aren't actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of the electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidate's State political party selects the individuals who will be the electors.

*States that appoint electors by popular vote (currently all) may include a modified voting period necessitated by force majeure events that are extraordinary and catastrophic as part of ‘election day’.

By December 11, 2024—States issue Certificates of Ascertainment
(at least six days before the meeting of the electors)

Your State's Executive prepares seven Certificates of Ascertainment. Immediately after the election results in your State are certified, the Executive sends one of those original Certificates of Ascertainment to the Archivist.

December 17, 2024—electors vote in their States
The electors meet in their respective States and vote for President and Vice President on separate ballots. The electors record their votes on six Certificates of Vote, which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment. The electors sign, seal up, and certify six sets of electoral votes. A set of electoral votes consists of one Certificate of Ascertainment and one Certificate of Vote.

December 25, 2024—electoral votes arrive
Electoral votes must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than the fourth Wednesday in December. If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

On or before January 3, 2025—Archivist transfers Certificates to Congress
As the new Congress assembles, the Archivist transmits sets of Certificates to Congress, as requested. This generally happens when the Senate does not receive its set of Certificates on time. The transfer occurs in late December or early January when OFR’s Legal staff meets with representatives of the Secretary of the Senate, the Clerk of the House, and Congressional Parliamentarians.

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes
Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. The Vice President, as President of the Senate, presides over the count and announces the results of the Electoral College vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.

If any objections to the electoral votes are made, they must be submitted in writing and be signed by at least one-fifth of the members of the House and one-fifth of the Senators. If objections are presented, the House and Senate withdraw to their respective chambers to consider the merits of the objection(s) under procedures set out in Federal law. Only two grounds for objection are acceptable: that the electors of the State were not lawfully certified under a Certificate of Ascertainment, or that the vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.

If no Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority of the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution the House of Representatives decides the Presidential election. If necessary, the House would elect the President by majority vote, choosing from among the three candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. The vote would be taken by State, with each State having one vote. (The District of Columbia does not vote because it doesn't have voting members in the House of Representatives.)

If no Vice Presidential candidate wins at least 270 electoral votes (a majority or the 538 available votes), under the 12th Amendment the Senate elects the Vice President. If necessary, the Senate would elect the Vice President by majority vote, choosing between the two candidates who received the greatest number of electoral votes. Each Senator would have one vote.

January 20, 2025 at Noon—Inauguration Day
The President-elect and Vice President-elect take the Oath of Office and become the President of the United States and Vice President of the United States, respectively.

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Maybe you use a different calendar in Novosibirsk but generally speaking the correct date in the U.S. is Jan 20th

Depending what you're referring to Inauguration Day is 20th, January 6, 2025 Congress counts the electoral votes

[Kathandira]

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes

You are excited for the day congress counts the votes we already know they have in favor of Trump?

Odd event to be excited for, but if it makes you happy, cheers to you.

[Moralgy]

You are excited for the day congress counts the votes we already know they have in favor of Trump?

Odd event to be excited for, but if it makes you happy, cheers to you.

Just SOOO EXCITED for a boring non-eventful event to happen. Surely that is what it is, ya know, not an opppsy on being misinformed.

[tehdang]

Neither one of those links matches your claim:

So yeah, ya lied.

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Will they try to hang the Vice President again?

Another lie. Point out the press conference where he said that.

I linked to the news article on the press conference, if you want the video direct you can also look at that. https://x.com/rncresearch/status/1732458464067113232
And it wasn't even the only time, Biden did it twice!

Nowhere really left to go if you can't own up to the facts of Biden's history. I hope you change your mind.

[DarkTZeratul]

The president is put into power!!! aka this poster knows so little about the process he just thinks the riots were that day.

That's January 20. January 6 is when Congress officially counts the votes and certifies the results. You clearly have no room to talk about ignorance of the process.

[Moralgy]

That's January 20. January 6 is when Congress officially counts the votes and certifies the results. You clearly have no room to talk about ignorance of the process.

Read some sarcasm my bro. Maybe keep up with the convo too, could help you idk.

[gondrin]

January 6, 2025—Congress counts the electoral votes
President takes office on January 20th

lots of assumptions made for me saying January 6 can't come soon enough. Guess I should have put more context for some posters.

So here is a timeline on the process



And the full process for the people that don't know




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Depending what you're referring to Inauguration Day is 20th, January 6, 2025 Congress counts the electoral votes

Thing is, even on Jan 6th, he still isn't the actual sitting President. Until he is actually inaugurated and Biden actually turns over the reins, he doesn't have any actual power. And, FWIW, they just literally cast and counted the electoral votes within the states themselves.

Hell, between now and Jan 20ths, if Biden really wanted to go out with a bang(and I sure as hell as hope he doesn't as it would set a precedent for future presidents to do this), he could declare martial law for some bullshit reason and declare anything dealing with the election to be suspended until the bullshit reason passed.

[PhaelixWW]

I linked to the news article on the press conference, if you want the video direct you can also look at that. https://x.com/rncresearch/status/1732458464067113232
And it wasn't even the only time, Biden did it twice!

Both were linked in the original articles. Neither one matches your description of events.

Like, the "reporter" directly brings up accusations of illegal or unethical interactions. Biden denies it by saying that "it's a bunch of lies". And the lack of any legitimate evidence to support the accusations backs up Biden's response.

[Breccia]

I linked t-

What a surprise, someone who refuses to answer dozens of direct challenges says "the evidence I said existed is somewhere in this Twitter feed, click on it yourself". Incredibly appropriate for someone who, due to their direct support of Trump, wants Musk to have a Cabinet seat Trump just created out of thin air.

[uuuhname]

A paper cut and broken leg are both "similar" in that they are both injuries, that doesn't mean they are comparable in any meaningful way. This is some "herp derp both sides" shit.

ya'll are the ones doing the "both sides" BS in regards to nepo babies doing obvious corruption and graft for their respective families.

like it's SO pathetic to even defend this lame duck president who has been on the mental decline for years that his party and inner circle covered it up, who lost an election because of it.

if you aren't going to address the fact that the Dems lost tens of millions of voters between this last election and 2020 you're just doing one big wank off with one another.

[Kaleredar]

ya'll are the ones doing the "both sides" BS in regards to nepo babies doing obvious corruption and graft for their respective families.

like it's SO pathetic to even defend this lame duck president who has been on the mental decline for years that his party and inner circle covered it up, who lost an election because of it.

if you aren't going to address the fact that the Dems lost tens of millions of voters between this last election and 2020 you're just doing one big wank off with one another.

If we’re talking about someone just wanking off, maybe you should consider why your political goals have never gained any traction, anywhere, ever.

[PhaelixWW]

like it's SO pathetic to even defend this lame duck president who has been on the mental decline for years that his party and inner circle covered it up, who lost an election because of it.

if you aren't going to address the fact that the Dems lost tens of millions of voters between this last election and 2020 you're just doing one big wank off with one another.

Your whiny shitposting shtick is pretty pathetic, actually.

Also, Democrats didn't lose "tens of millions of voters".

[Dontrike]

ya'll are the ones doing the "both sides" BS in regards to nepo babies doing obvious corruption and graft for their respective families.

Rich kids getting jobs that they aren't qualified for isn't new, the difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump put as many of his kids in the White House as possible and Biden didn't. Again, you're just doing some "herp derp both sides" bullshit, which is stupid at best.

like it's SO pathetic to even defend this lame duck president who has been on the mental decline for years that his party and inner circle covered it up, who lost an election because of it.

You just described Trump.

if you aren't going to address the fact that the Dems lost tens of millions of voters between this last election and 2020 you're just doing one big wank off with one another.

Yawn. Trump didn't gain voters either, and anyone that voted for him or didn't vote are pretty fuckin' stupid.

[fwc577]

Yawn. Trump didn't gain voters either, and anyone that voted for him or didn't vote are pretty fuckin' stupid.

If you look at my history, I'm very anti-Trump. With that said, there is no need to lie about Trump's performance.

2016 -- 62,984,828
2020 -- 74,223,975 (+11,239,147)
2024 -- 77,297,721 (+3,073,746)

[Gestopft]

If you look at my history, I'm very anti-Trump. With that said, there is no need to lie about Trump's performance.

2016 -- 62,984,828
2020 -- 74,223,975 (+11,239,147)
2024 -- 77,297,721 (+3,073,746)

All I can see from this is:

Democrats: fucking embrace some populism

[ati87]

All I can see from this is:

Democrats: fucking embrace some populism

You could do that.

Or you can campaign with the Cheneys and insult the people that voted for you.

50/50

[Malkiah]

All I can see from this is:

Democrats: fucking embrace some populism

i must confess to feeling like a broken record here but i just can't help myself, sorry to the eyeballs of those who stray here.

the US was founded as an oligarchy, set up and instituted for the sole and explicit purpose of an elite few to exploit the absolute shit out of everyone else for their personal gain. it just so happened that at the time in order to pull this stunt off and utterly sever the connection to british power, they needed to seem legitimate enough to britain's enemies that those enemies could financially and militarily assist the colonists without it seeming improper or barbaric.
the entirety of the narrative and the story of the US, its founding, its principles and ideals, and everything the soul of the nation stands for are lies that were invented to make spain and france feel comfortable enough to support the colonists in telling britain to go and get fucked.

consequently throughout all of US history all political power has always been against "the people" and the only question is one of mechanics, so you've had only two real political forces in any meaningful capacity:
one force that is for unchecked exploitation of the populace, that operates on the assumption that sufficient oppression is all that is required to keep the people in check and maintain said exploitation.
and another force that is checked exploitation of the populace, that operates on the assumption that keeping the people a hair's breadth from true desperation is the way to keep them in check and maintain their exploitation.

beat them down and keep a boot on their neck vs. give them just enough crumbs to keep them from well fed enough that they don't start rioting.
these are pretty much the only two ideologies that have prevailed in US politics, though there have been brief moments throughout history where the meter swung a further in one direction or the other for a brief period.

the point of all this:
the democrats are the party of crumbs.
they do not believe in the people and they do not support the people, their organizational principles are in no way related to winning or to fighting for anyone.
they are just the good cop to the republican's bad cop - both cops want the same thing out of you, the entire point of the act is to trick you into thinking one of them is your friend so you'll make it easier.

so no, they will never embrace some populism, because doing so doesn't actually do anything for them.

[uuuhname]

If we’re talking about someone just wanking off, maybe you should consider why your political goals have never gained any traction, anywhere, ever.

LMFAO

it is so funny to be this mad over getting exactly what you wanted. as if you and the Democrats haven't made it abundantly clear for three elections in a row now that everyone with my politics AKA everyone to the left of Dick Cheney can go pound sand.

what's wrong, buddy? you got exactly what you wanted! you had the perfect candidate, until his brain really started melting and you had to swap him out for the real perfect candidate, who ran a perfect campaign! they ran it perfectly! they say so themselves! so what happun? was eating shit and losing to the spray tanned buffoon not the plan?

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You just described Trump.

I'm sorry did Trump lose this election?

Yawn. Trump didn't gain voters either, and anyone that voted for him or didn't vote are pretty fuckin' stupid.

awesome, keep at it bro, I can't imagine how this attitude wouldn't win people over a fourth time! its done wonders for the Democrats so far! hasn't it?

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Your whiny shitposting shtick is pretty pathetic, actually.

Also, Democrats didn't lose "tens of millions of voters".

oh ok my bad, 7 million voters lost, wow you sure showed me! they sure ran the prefect campaign! that's why Harris is president elect now and not Trump.

I guess those magical votes you said were coming in election night finally did!