Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[PACOX]

It is sad when conservative reddit is more respectful, generally, than our residents.

Its understandable for people to be angry towards him and express that in certain ways. Also don't by conservatives being respectful. The man even said some sideways stuff about being pushed and his chances of winning like a week ago? Of course people are going to feel some type of way towards him. But he is a private citizen. Can't change the past, it's a degree of what some were wish CC casting anyway. Its healthier for everyone to move on. If you don't like the man, many don't, just move on. At this point he is just another person. If you have humility and compassion to give, try to understand why some people can't bring themselves to be charitable towards him.

[Bwgmon]

“I think it’s very sad,” Trump said. “Actually, I’m surprised that, you know, the public wasn’t notified a long time ago because to get to stage 9, that’s a long time. I just had my physical.”

The fuck does he mean by mentioning "I just had my physical" at the end there? Did his doctors talk to him about cancer for a completely unrelated reason when he was getting checked?

Like it's a bit weird to just mention that as if it's related to the subject.

[PACOX]

I hate people that are trying to tie this to the election.

I had a grandparent that had 0 idea they had cancer until they broke a bone doing a normal activity (using a hammer, broke their forearm randomly when they pounded on a nail). It was then discovered they had an aggressive form of cancer that had already metastasized into the bone and the action/force of swinging a hammer normally was enough to break a bone that the cancer had metastasized into. They were dead 2 months later.

This was someone who did regular checkups for cancer as well because they worked for a company that was involved in a class-action lawsuit in the 00s because a lot of their co-workers had died over the years from aggressive forms of cancer.

My grandmothers cancer became aggressively suddenly too. It happens.

Let's work through what people are seeing though. Biden had several health episodes leading up to the election that validated peoples concerns about his ability to run. Surgery, a couple of illness off the top of my head. The debate came and obviously things went down hill from there. The entire time he claimed he was in perfect health. Testimonies about concerns about his health hit the news cycle days before this news came out. Meanwhile he was still talking about how he could have ran. Then this story drops. People are thinking about what else he might have lied about when he claimed to be okay. They are thinking about how much time he ate up that could have gone towards another candidate while he was claiming to be okay. People have this mythical view of the healthcare a president has access to and wondering how there were no signs until his illness became advanced. Some of the claims are wild, some are very valid. I personal don't know enough to even begin to claim he was lying so I just hope the best for him, but I can hear people when they claim thing might not have been on the up and up.


For the record it shouldnt have mattered if he was president now as long as all the government contingencies are working.

[NED funded]

Apparently you missed his real thoughts.

“I think it’s very sad,” Trump said. “Actually, I’m surprised that, you know, the public wasn’t notified a long time ago because to get to stage 9, that’s a long time. I just had my physical.”


“What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???” he wrote as he reposted a message declaring it “highly likely” that Biden was diagnosed as president and didn’t tell the nation. - Donald Trump Jr.

There's zero chance his initial reaction wasn't by an aide in less than 24 hours they showed their true colors.

Lol I guess this explains the recent wave of posts.

But yeah even if everything was true (which it isnt but lets concede on that for a second) its pretty disgusting to use the cancer diagnosis of a man in his 80s to "own the libs" or whatever. Like have some fucking class

[Dontrike]

Lol I guess this explains the recent wave of posts.

But yeah even if everything was true (which it isnt but lets concede on that for a second) its pretty disgusting to use the cancer diagnosis of a man in his 80s to "own the libs" or whatever. Like have some fucking class

When it finally comes out that Trump's doctors have been hiding Dump's actual health and how he had dementia for the better part of the last decade (not to mention 100 pounds heavier and 4 inches shorter) I am going to laugh and laugh and anyone that has a problem can kiss the fattest part of their own ass.

[tehdang]

Cancer is not that easy to find I have no idea why people think it is. Even stuff that's "easy" to catch still requires specific tests and even they aren't 100% accurate.

I'm assuming the President is an important enough individual for specific tests.

Why did that sentence need "minority" in it?

A majority position can be expected to "score points."

[Odinfrost]

The fuck does he mean by mentioning "I just had my physical" at the end there? Did his doctors talk to him about cancer for a completely unrelated reason when he was getting checked?

Like it's a bit weird to just mention that as if it's related to the subject.

Come on. We both know he means that the physical also checks for all the cancers. Because he's a moron that doesn't know how anything works.

[Draco-Onis]

Lol I guess this explains the recent wave of posts.

But yeah even if everything was true (which it isnt but lets concede on that for a second) its pretty disgusting to use the cancer diagnosis of a man in his 80s to "own the libs" or whatever. Like have some fucking class

The entire thing doesn't make sense if there was a massive cover up about Biden's health then they did a shit job at it since calls for him to step down had been going on for over a year and the polling showed the democratic base did not want him to run. It's also a fact that he ended up stepping down so if this was a cover up it's the worse failure in the history of cover ups. But these are the same people who believe in pizzagate but can't put 2+2 together when it comes to Trump and his best friend Jeffrey Epstein.

[Breccia]

I'm assuming the President is an important enough individual for specific tests.

You have zero proof these tests didn't take place. You're pushing a conspiracy theory.

[En Sabah Nur]

More and more I'm convinced tehdang is just desperately seeking readily available attention.

[Flarelaine]

Jill Biden isn't a medical doctor you utter fuckhead...

(Referring to Jr, not Draco, to be clear)

I think Jr knows and this is just another dig at her not being a "real" doctor.

[Iliena]

A majority position can be expected to "score points."

You had a shitty take, that was called out on, so no need to keep it going.

But we can change the subject and talk about your total lack of empathy if you want?

[tehdang]

You had a shitty take, that was called out on, so no need to keep it going.

But we can change the subject and talk about your total lack of empathy if you want?

You're the one that asked. I think it's absurd to accuse me of posting for internet points in this forum of all places.

You can always post on the subject of my post, instead of commenting on the fact that I posted it at all, or the motivations I have behind posting it. Also, it's rather strange to directly ask me a question, and then complain on my explanatory response that I'm the one keeping it going. If your interest is gone, just tell me or don't comment at all.

Robert Hur interview with Biden was released:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...terview-audio/

The audio was previously withheld citing executive privilege.

Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios) also have their book out, Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, its cover-up, and his disastrous choice to run again. They write from inside sources, apparently spilling the beans out of indignation at the election loss in the year that the debate exposed Biden's mental acuity. The outside messaging was that Biden only had a stutter and the videos of his decline were cheapfakes or taken out of context. Hur was attacked for writing unflatteringly of why he decided charges against Biden were unlikely to secure a conviction.

'“Most of the information laid out” in the book, the authors write, “was shared with us after the election of 2024, when officials and aides felt considerably freer to talk.” This is revealing: There was an omertà—a code of silence—that prohibited any public talk of Mr. Biden’s acuity.'

'The code was enforced fiercely by “the Politburo,” Mr. Biden’s innermost circle, particularly Mr. Donilon and Steve Ricchetti, another senior Biden adviser, as well as the president’s progressive chief of staff, Ron Klain, who, the authors tell us, “steered the ship of state to the left of where Biden had been for most of his career.”'

Also, from the New York Times,

The result is a damning, step-by-step account of how the people closest to a stubborn, aging president enabled his quixotic resolve to run for a second term. The authors trace the deluge of trouble that flowed from Biden’s original sin: the sidelining of Vice President Kamala Harris; the attacks on journalists (like Thompson) who deigned to report on worries about Biden’s apparent fatigue and mental state; an American public lacking clear communication from the president and left to twist in the wind. “It was an abomination,” one source told the authors. “He stole an election from the Democratic Party; he stole it from the American people.”

[Iliena]

I'm a sealion!

I will quote your post and highlight the parts I took issue with:

A sudden diagnosis of late-stage cancer is going to ring alarm bells.

The Biden-friendly MSNBC had a doctor on (Ezekiel Emanuel, brother to Rahm Emanuel, former Biden advisory board member) that floated the possibility that Biden either skipped the test, or the White House failed to report the results.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scar...-didnt-report/

If Biden had this for years and wasn't diagnosed, or lied when they said it was just diagnosed, oh boy.

This wasn't a post just reporting the news about Biden's cancer and if you think it was seek help!

Your making it out to be a conspiracy with zero proof and it's really oblivious!

[tehdang]

I will quote your post and highlight the parts I took issue with:


This wasn't a post just reporting the news about Biden's cancer and if you think it was seek help!

Your making it out to be a conspiracy with zero proof and it's really oblivious!

Logically, in a news story with an oncologist that says the cancer should have been caught earlier, the options are the doctors screened and missed it, the doctors failed to screen for it, or it was found and concealed.

Which I guess is the point by bolding only only part of the 'or.' Yes, if I gave that as the only possible option, your claims would be partially justified. I did not.

“Oh, he’s had this for many years, maybe even a decade, growing there and spreading. That’s right. It’s a little surprising. I looked back at the records and there’s no evidence that when he got his health status and the medical records were released, that he had a prostate specific antigen,”

Just to get this straight, you have a problem with saying it's wild that Biden had this for years and wasn't diagnosed, or he knew about it for a while and lied about a recent diagnosis. I think both possibilities are logically forced, and both are astounding to consider.Unless, I guess, you're questioning an oncologist on the timeframe for arriving at such a diagnosis. But you refuse to elaborate, so I guess you have some private reasons for why the news story doesn't force you into one of the two options I presented you. I can't read your mind on that.

[Endus]

Logically, in a news story with an oncologist that says the cancer should have been caught earlier, the options are the doctors screened and missed it, the doctors failed to screen for it, or it was found and concealed.

Or that this particular oncologist is talking out his ass and doesn't know what he's talking about. Or this oncologist is lying for some reason. Or this oncologist is pushing a political agenda, and targeting a political figure is part of that agenda.

At the very least, as an oncologist I have to presume he knows that cancer can vary wildly in how aggressively it presents, and thus you can't use average progression rates as a claim that one patients' cancer couldn't have progressed as quickly as it has.

You're not making an argument, here. You're explaining how intentionally you're being dishonest.

[Iliena]

Logic is lacking

People get diagnosed with stage 3 and 4 cancer all the time this isn't anything unusual.

But you must parrot Trump in his coverup bullshit with zero proof!

[Edge-]

People get diagnosed with stage 3 and 4 cancer all the time this isn't anything unusual.

But you must parrot Trump in his coverup bullshit with zero proof!

i mean

we may as well talk about how reagan hid his alzhemiers diagnosis while in the white house

because currently that theory has the same amount of evidence to support it that this theory that joe hid his cancer has

[PfeffermintShake]

Or that Trump's doctor claims "in an official document" that Donald is taller and slimmer than Patrick Mahomes.

Somehow this isnt a story, or not a book by Jake Tapper and all his friends at CNN/Politico.

[Edge-]

Or that Trump's doctor claims "in an official document" that Donald is taller and slimmer than Patrick Mahomes.

Somehow this isnt a story, or not a book by Jake Tapper and all his friends at CNN/Politico.

i'm just wondering why all the maga folks who keep calling cnn and jake tapper "fake news" are taking his book and reporting seriously all of a sudden?

maybe they just found some reporting they like so they're choosing to believe this reporting and none of the other reporting?

do you think that's it?