Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

I'm not sure she qualifies as an actress.

Perhaps, though I do feel the need to correct myself... the actress I was thinking of attempted to mail ricin to Obama and a few other politicians because, in essence, she didn't want the government taking her guns.

Though I will stand by my contention that trying to mail someone a biological weapon is worse than this other moron's blindingly stupid language.

[Dontrike]

When I took yoga classes, my teacher made me read Mahabharata and Bhagavad Gita.

On another subject. Crazies will be crazies.

Actress Cirsten Weldon Says China Paid Joe Biden to Test 'Weather Warfare' on Texas

I don't think even Obama ever had it this bad.

Didn't they say Obama was trying to take over Texas one time when it was just some military drills?

[Poopymonster]

Didn't they say Obama was trying to take over Texas one time when it was just some military drills?

Yup. And they were rightfully mocked as such.

[Breccia]

Didn't they say Obama was trying to take over Texas one time when it was just some military drills?

Hmm. Interesting. What did they say when Trump sent thousands of troops to Texas, to stay there for years?

[cubby]

Senator Roy Blunt states Bidens Infrastructure bill could be an easy win - offers way to improve it.

I don't know how to take something like this - GOP offering to help? Can Sen. Blunt even spell infrastructure?

[cubby]

He’s suggesting cutting 70% of the bill...

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ructure-479017

Well fuck, nvm then. Thought maybe something as simple as "let's make america better" would be easy to get behind. Guess the Grifters of Politics just want their Salty Daddy back.

[cubby]

The good news is Biden expects to ram it through with no GOP support, so it doesn't matter if they want to get on board or not. The sad part is they'll do what they did with the stimulus. They'll vote against it and then hope that their supporters don't check the tally as they claim credit.

I'm glad to hear it. Having three solid legislative packages within the first six months of his Presidency will certainly help the Democrats during midterms.

I know it's silly to say this, but I can't believe the GOP gets away with that bullshit. Voting against it then taking credit for it.

[Kaleredar]

I'm glad to hear it. Having three solid legislative packages within the first six months of his Presidency will certainly help the Democrats during midterms.

I know it's silly to say this, but I can't believe the GOP gets away with that bullshit. Voting against it then taking credit for it.

That might get them some sort term clout or placate their followers in already solidly red areas. But it could be harmful come midterms should the democrats they’re running against actually call them out on it.

[Zan15]

He’s suggesting cutting 70% of the bill...

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ructure-479017

good we can start by cutting his states share by 70%


I would bet 100k that he still wouldn't vote for it.



My favorite quote of the weekend

"Manufacturing, $300 billion. Electric vehicles, $170 billion. Broadband, $100 billion. Electric power grid, $100 billion. This is completely unneeded and it's also very dangerous because we don't want the federal government manipulating what broadband companies do, what electric power companies do," Edwards said.

Now republicans do not even support manufacturing.

We knew they cared less about broadband

and electric power, after Texas, no shock (nice pun) there.


they straight up are ignorant on what "infrastructure is" and democrats are letting them get away with it. they need to go on the offensive and make republicans look stupid as they are being

[Kaleredar]

good we can start by cutting his states share by 70%


I would bet 100k that he still wouldn't vote for it.



My favorite quote of the weekend

"Manufacturing, $300 billion. Electric vehicles, $170 billion. Broadband, $100 billion. Electric power grid, $100 billion. This is completely unneeded and it's also very dangerous because we don't want the federal government manipulating what broadband companies do, what electric power companies do," Edwards said.

Now republicans do not even support manufacturing.

We knew they cared less about broadband

and electric power, after Texas, no shock (nice pun) there.


they straight up are ignorant on what "infrastructure is" and democrats are letting them get away with it. they need to go on the offensive and make republicans look stupid as they are being

It wouldn't matter what the democrats had put in the bill or what it had ascribed to repair or support. The GOP is in full pearl-clutching, virtue signaling, strawmanning mode right now. They know they're largely powerless to stop the democrats from doing things and so must resort to trying to bluster and rant, lest the democrats catch too much goodwill for passing legislation trying to help and bolster the country and steamroll the GOP in 2022 and beyond. These are cries of desperation on the GOP's part.

Hopefully, should this legislation actually help the country (likely predicated on the GOP having as little input in it as possible) the democrats with both be able to leverage its success AND the GOP's inevitable refusal to pass it in the 2022 elections. "Look at how this legislation WE passed helped the country, and look at how my republican opponent DIDN'T want it to pass."

[Fugus]

It wouldn't matter what the democrats had put in the bill or what it had ascribed to repair or support. The GOP is in full pearl-clutching, virtue signaling, strawmanning mode right now. They know they're largely powerless to stop the democrats from doing things and so must resort to trying to bluster and rant, lest the democrats catch too much goodwill for passing legislation trying to help and bolster the country and steamroll the GOP in 2022 and beyond. These are cries of desperation on the GOP's part.

Hopefully, should this legislation actually help the country (likely predicated on the GOP having as little input in it as possible) the democrats with both be able to leverage its success AND the GOP's inevitable refusal to pass it in the 2022 elections. "Look at how this legislation WE passed helped the country, and look at how my republican opponent DIDN'T want it to pass."

A lot of that still rests on the few who refuse to nuke the filibuster even after what McConnell has done over the past 12 years.

[Verdugo]

That might get them some sort term clout or placate their followers in already solidly red areas. But it could be harmful come midterms should the democrats they’re running against actually call them out on it.

Are they ever called out on something though?

[Fincayra]

good we can start by cutting his states share by 70%


I would bet 100k that he still wouldn't vote for it.



My favorite quote of the weekend

"Manufacturing, $300 billion. Electric vehicles, $170 billion. Broadband, $100 billion. Electric power grid, $100 billion. This is completely unneeded and it's also very dangerous because we don't want the federal government manipulating what broadband companies do, what electric power companies do," Edwards said.

Now republicans do not even support manufacturing.

We knew they cared less about broadband

and electric power, after Texas, no shock (nice pun) there.


they straight up are ignorant on what "infrastructure is" and democrats are letting them get away with it. they need to go on the offensive and make republicans look stupid as they are being

There's a ton in this bill that we have needed as a country for decades. I'm really wondering why so many of our former presidents have been so lackluster on infrastructure? I'm not really much of a Biden supporter, but with moves like this I will swiftly be won over.

[Muzjhath]

There's a ton in this bill that we have needed as a country for decades. I'm really wondering why so many of our former presidents have been so lackluster on infrastructure? I'm not really much of a Biden supporter, but with moves like this I will swiftly be won over.

Because "I'll fix our broken dams" polls badly.

[Felya]

There's a ton in this bill that we have needed as a country for decades. I'm really wondering why so many of our former presidents have been so lackluster on infrastructure? I'm not really much of a Biden supporter, but with moves like this I will swiftly be won over.

It’s a very a very long answer, since the excuses change. To me, the biggest missed opportunity was when Bush was elected over Gore. The end of Clinton’s term was the last time we had a balanced budget, which happened to coincide with an “extremist” environmentalist (for the time). Instead, Bush blew a surplus by sending out 300$ stimulus and a tax cut, before either the IT bust or 9/11. Before those, Bush’s main focus was expanding oil drilling into ANWR...

Since then, it’s been a constant catch up, fixing shit that Republicans break. Obama started with the Great Recession with unemployment around 9% and now Biden is starting with a Global Pandemic and unemployment over 6%. I think GOP is so focused on personal freedom, they forgot that their job has constituents.

GOP has successfully positioned them selfs amongst their supporters, as fighters of fake news. While when that fights lands in court, they claim no one in their right mind would believe them. They don’t have to do anything, but whine and pocket the money.

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Because "I'll fix our broken dams" polls badly.

It’s more of opportunity. When was the last time we had a democrat gain presidency, without an ongoing crisis that GOP failed to mitigate? Both Bush and Trump ended their terms with higher unemployment than they started, because each one ended with a major crisis. By the time democrats would balanced the budget, GOP would get elected and cut taxes. Then blaming democrat spending for the deficit, to claim nothing can be done. It’s an endless cycle...

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/05/98446...ound-the-world

What the fuck? Wall Street lapdog and pro-austerity Janet Yellen is proposing a global minimum corporate tax to get rid of tax havens and help nations around the world repatriate money? And it would also lead to higher taxes on that sheltered money and more revenue for things like paying down debts and paying for social programs?

I feel like I've been lied to, I thought Yellen was gonna gut spending, tax the poor, and generally be a lapdog for Wall Street while singing the praises of austerity.

What gives?

[PC2]

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/05/98446...ound-the-world

What the fuck? Wall Street lapdog and pro-austerity Janet Yellen is proposing a global minimum corporate tax to get rid of tax havens and help nations around the world repatriate money? And it would also lead to higher taxes on that sheltered money and more revenue for things like paying down debts and paying for social programs?

I feel like I've been lied to, I thought Yellen was gonna gut spending, tax the poor, and generally be a lapdog for Wall Street while singing the praises of austerity.

What gives?

There would also need to be a global maximum to reduce the incentive to shop around. The average corporate tax rate is around 25% so they could set the minimum at 20% and the maximum at 30%.

It would only work if it's involuntary though, which it's unethical to force a country to adopt a policy they don't want. It's a pipedream.

[Edge-]

There would also need to be a global maximum to reduce the incentive to shop around.

There really doesn't.

[PC2]

There really doesn't.

You can say the same thing about the global minimum. If we want standardization then we have to get rid of nations that are tax havens and tax Nazis.

[Edge-]

You can say the same thing about the global minimum. If we want standardization then we have to get rid of nations that are tax havens and tax Nazis.

Who's a "Tax Nazi"? Like, is this a country with extra taxes on Jews and gypsies or something? Seeking to bring about the uber-tax-collector for the glory of the carried-interest race?