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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    See also the American Revolution, for a more-or-less successful iteration.
    With, admittedly, considerably fewer guillotines. "Let's just kill everyone oppressing us" was never really part of their strategy. Their step 1 was "We're leaving; feel free fuck around and find out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    This is not unique to tech stocks.

    What we need to get back to is acceptance of a normal rate of increase of profit and revenue.
    This idea that we can keep having double digit increases every year is impossible to maintain.
    Recessions have a way of realigning investment like overvalued tech stocks. Maybe we'll get one of those in the coming months or couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    This is not unique to tech stocks.

    What we need to get back to is acceptance of a normal rate of increase of profit and revenue.
    This idea that we can keep having double digit increases every year is impossible to maintain.
    Capitalism is founded on the principle of unlimited growth in a limited world. Economics have understood for a long time that flat or negative GDP would become the norm eventually but for that to be a accepted is a huge ask. I foresee companies playing with their balance sheet or screwing consumers even more to meet that expectation. Most of the companies in the US are monopolies and oligopolies unless the government acts things will get continue to worsen for the average person in the name of quarterly reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Their step 1 was "We're leaving; feel free fuck around and find out."
    Step 1.25 was "We're gonna attack anyone who doesn't want to leave with us."

    Warning : Above post may contain snark and/or sarcasm. Try reparsing with the /s argument before replying.
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    Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but Joe Biden seeking to normalize Saudi ties and planning a trip to do so is pretty evil. It’s effectively trying to move on from the Jamal murder
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    the thing about Biden is he has condemned people like the evil prince, and that is in large part why the evil royalty has uneasy tis.

    so backtracking on that is...not good
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    Its depressing, the realization that we're about to hit a global recession. Which is going to lead to the GOP sweeping the house, senate, and presidency as they succcesfully blame the dems for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    Its depressing, the realization that we're about to hit a global recession. Which is going to lead to the GOP sweeping the house, senate, and presidency as they succcesfully blame the dems for it.
    Even were that to be true that mileage is limited, seeing as it's their policies and subsequent obstinence to change that caused the recession in the first place.

    As for the presidency, the GOP is in a lot tighter of a spot than people might think in that regard. A lot of people seem to assume that, because Biden wasn't able to magic-away all the problems of the world while staring down a pandemic and all the other problems Trump caused with a, for all intents and purposes, deadlocked congress that people are going to say "well gee, I guess Trump, the guy we just voted out by millions of votes in an election that wasn't even particularly close that he hasn't stopped being a sore butt baby about, must be better. Let's just go back to his tenor of bullshit, because even though he has no actual stated plans to fix any of these problems real or imagined, him being Trump will magically solve them all, and we've forgotten all about the terrible things that happened during his presidency, either under his watch or directly due to his actions."

    Now I don't doubt that Trump's ardent sycophants actually do believe exactly that, but they aren't the majority of the voting public, and I doubt the majority of America are eager to return to a Trump presidency. It's important to remember that whatever Biden's approval ratings stand at, the opposite chunk of that is not to be read as "I disapprove of Biden, so I approve of having Trump back."

    The notion that Trump is some popular candidate... well, one, was never true, and I don't think it's true now, nor do I see any reason that Trump, who seems to be becoming an even more cartoonishly malignant buffoonish version of the cartoonish malignant buffoon he already was, is going to turn that perception around in the next two years as his relevancy continues to wane.

    And that's where the GOP's problems with the presidency come in. As long as Trump wants to run, they're more or less obliged to 1) let him and 2) support a candidate they know isn't popular, a candidate whose already lost a presidential election. But they don't really have a choice, because Trump acrimoniously parting from the GOP means that a critical block of crazy voters the GOP needs to win abandons them as well, and without them the GOP's chances are basically non-existent.

    Maybe a DeSantis type... as vile as a person as he is, as similar to Trump as he would effectively be, and as harmful as his inevitable conservative policies would be, might stand a chance of unseating Biden. He's moderately more articulate and far less inflammatory rhetoric wise, and has far less of the stink of... well, "Trump" than Trump does and would likely be able to articulate some sort of blame to levy at Biden and dress up his policies to funnel money into the pockets of rich people as some ostensible "solution" to those problems, far better than Trump ever could. But DeSantis probably isn't going to be the nominee if Trump wants to be, and if he is despite Trump's protestations, Trump will do his damndest to be a spoiler for DeSantis (he's already taking shots at him,) or whomever the GOP-appointed nominee is, to a potentially campaign-sinking level.
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    Biden got into a bicycle accident. He's okay.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ide-first-lady

    Biden falls off bike on Delaware ride with first lady, says 'I'm good'
    Biden says 'I'm good' after taking a tumble from his bike in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware

    By Caitlin McFall | Fox News

    President Biden took a tumble off his bike Saturday morning after he stopped by a group of reporters and members of the public while out for a ride in Delaware with first lady Jill Biden.

    The president, who has frequently been seen on a bicycle since taking up his post in the Oval Office, said he got his foot caught in the pedal when trying to take it out to stop.



    "I’m good," he said appearing in good spirits when immediately asked if he was OK.

    In a statement to Fox News a White House official said, "The President said, his foot got caught on the pedal while dismounting and he is fine. No medical attention is needed.

    "The President looks forward to spending the rest of the day with his family," the official added.
    Well, as okay as he was yesterday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Biden got into a bicycle accident. He's okay.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ide-first-lady



    Well, as okay as he was yesterday...
    Trump can't even walk DOWN a ramp without help. Biden having a bike accident is nothing. Still makes him a billion times better than Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Biden got into a bicycle accident. He's okay.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ide-first-lady



    Well, as okay as he was yesterday...
    Not sure this is super noteworthy, but glad he's still getting regular exercise. That's important.

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    Bernie Sanders skewers Republican critic of ‘full-on socialism’ in Fox debate

    Sanders, the Vermont senator, democratic socialist and two-time presidential candidate, took on Lindsey Graham, his Republican Senate colleague from South Carolina.

    Sanders gave an unfettered breakdown of Medicare for all, or a national public healthcare system, a living wage, and increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

    For Fox viewers it was a rare opportunity to hear a different perspective on policies which are regularly demonized by rightwingers Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, Fox News’ two most watched hosts.

    For Sanders, it was a chance to reach a new audience, and he wasted no time before diving into a signature issue – universal healthcare.

    “In the United States, Lindsey, we spend twice as much per capita on healthcare compared to the people of any other country, while major countries like Canada, the UK, Germany manage to supply healthcare to all their people,” Sanders said.

    “Why is that?” he continued. “Because they’re not having insurance companies ripping off the system.”

    Several polls have shown that a majority of Americans support Medicare for all, despite the Republican refrain that much of the US public is thrilled with their private health insurance.

    “The real question is what the American people want. And you know what the American people do want? They do want Medicare for all,” Sanders said.

    “You talk about the joys and beauties of private insurance. Talk to the millions of workers who lost their private insurance during Covid,” Sanders said to Graham.

    After being criticized by Graham for being a “socialist”, Sanders leaned into the political philosophy and offered an ardent defense.

    “Do you think raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is socialistic? Do you think doing what every major country does – guaranteeing healthcare to all people – is socialistic? Do you think expanding Medicare to cover dental care is socialistic?” Sanders said.

    “I think most people, frankly, will tell you what they tell me: that the Congress is way, way out of touch with the needs of the American people,” Sanders said, adding: “We have a corrupt political system dominated by wealthy campaign contributors.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Bernie Sanders skewers Republican critic of ‘full-on socialism’ in Fox debate

    Sanders, the Vermont senator, democratic socialist and two-time presidential candidate, took on Lindsey Graham, his Republican Senate colleague from South Carolina.

    Sanders gave an unfettered breakdown of Medicare for all, or a national public healthcare system, a living wage, and increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

    For Fox viewers it was a rare opportunity to hear a different perspective on policies which are regularly demonized by rightwingers Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, Fox News’ two most watched hosts.

    For Sanders, it was a chance to reach a new audience, and he wasted no time before diving into a signature issue – universal healthcare.

    “In the United States, Lindsey, we spend twice as much per capita on healthcare compared to the people of any other country, while major countries like Canada, the UK, Germany manage to supply healthcare to all their people,” Sanders said.

    “Why is that?” he continued. “Because they’re not having insurance companies ripping off the system.”

    Several polls have shown that a majority of Americans support Medicare for all, despite the Republican refrain that much of the US public is thrilled with their private health insurance.

    “The real question is what the American people want. And you know what the American people do want? They do want Medicare for all,” Sanders said.

    “You talk about the joys and beauties of private insurance. Talk to the millions of workers who lost their private insurance during Covid,” Sanders said to Graham.

    After being criticized by Graham for being a “socialist”, Sanders leaned into the political philosophy and offered an ardent defense.

    “Do you think raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is socialistic? Do you think doing what every major country does – guaranteeing healthcare to all people – is socialistic? Do you think expanding Medicare to cover dental care is socialistic?” Sanders said.

    “I think most people, frankly, will tell you what they tell me: that the Congress is way, way out of touch with the needs of the American people,” Sanders said, adding: “We have a corrupt political system dominated by wealthy campaign contributors.”
    And he is, of course, correct.

    The issue is breaking the conservative's stranglehold on the information they feed their followers and making it patently known exactly who is standing in the way of what. And that's a major uphill battle.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Biden got into a bicycle accident. He's okay.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ide-first-lady



    Well, as okay as he was yesterday...
    Not my joke but:

    Joe Biden can ride a bike for 2 hours
    Donald Trump couldn't ride Stormy Daniels for 2 Minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Not sure this is super noteworthy, but glad he's still getting regular exercise. That's important.
    Yeah, gotta keep that blood pumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Not my joke but:

    Joe Biden can ride a bike for 2 hours
    Donald Trump couldn't ride Stormy Daniels for 2 Minutes.
    I mean, Dubya crashing on a Segway was at least somewhat understandable in that the Segway was a relatively recent invention. Bicycles, in contrast, have been around for over 200 years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Bicycles, in contrast, have been around for over 200 years...
    Surely, nobody has ever had an accident on a bicycle until Joe Biden, age 79, in the year of our lord 2022.

    Y'all are god-damned hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post

    I mean, Dubya crashing on a Segway was at least somewhat understandable in that the Segway was a relatively recent invention. Bicycles, in contrast, have been around for over 200 years...
    Dude got his foot caught in a pedal strap. It ain't a big deal.
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    Someone falling from a bike is a very common thing. Conservatives need to stfu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    I mean, Dubya crashing on a Segway was at least somewhat understandable in that the Segway was a relatively recent invention. Bicycles, in contrast, have been around for over 200 years...
    And our knowledge of the shape and size of the planet has been around for over 2000 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Someone falling from a bike is a very common thing. Conservatives need to stfu
    i fell off my exercise bike last week trying to get off it.

    thankfully there was no camera's around so my political career was saved.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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