So Sylvannas is going to take the Jailer's place, right?

[Jessicka]

I don’t think she wants to be in charge of a part of a system she wants to overthrow in it’s entirety. She’s gone all Sarah Kerrigan and wants to kill God.

And of course, like Kerrigan she will succeed.

[bagina]

I don’t think she wants to be in charge of a part of a system she wants to overthrow in it’s entirety. She’s gone all Sarah Kerrigan and wants to kill God.

And of course, like Kerrigan she will succeed.

In WoW might makes right, not even divine beings are safe from outside influence. Given enough resources even a mere mortal can overthrow a god. As far as I know, no being in WoW is granted absolute power or immunity. All in all, a heartwarming message, really. "Believe in yourself, and you too will be able to kill god one day!"

[Soilx3]

Danaerys Targaryen didn't go out and fight people in hand to hand combat. Her army and Dothraki did it. And the dragons can't forget those

My point is, of course we had help. But given that we start off as bumbling kobold and hog killers and end up as universe savers on spaceships it is fairly telling.

Put it this way.

"NoTHinG esCAPes tHE mAW

Well....

Except these pathetic mortals...

....who keep taking people in and out...wtf?!"

Yeah, we're not Daenerys, we're the dothraki grunts doing the fighting. Maybe a dothraki lieutenant/whatthefuckever would be a better term. Those guys don't get announced either.

[Rickarus]

Honestly, at this point, if Tyrande doesn't end up giving Sylvanas the "true death" (before likely going completely off the deep end herself, and starting the cycle over and maybe leading towards an expansion based on the darker side of Elune) eventually, I'll be very surprised and honestly pretty disappointed. If they try any type of redemption arc or "Sylvanas was right all along" or any of that bullshit, it'll just be worst possible option. I know the Sylvanas Stans will remain loud and vocal for their "Banshee Waifu" and refuse to accept that all the horrible things she's done since as far back as WotLK has been moving towards her being an enemy to all of Azeroth, whether Alliance, Horde, or otherwise.

[iosdeveloper]

this would be a lil more complex than sylvanas lich king)
i expect some arthas/sylvanas drama about carrying the weight of all 'humanity'

[Vorkreist]

Of course she will take Jailers place. She is destined to be the Kamala of WoW.

[Aktavite]

Hear ye hear ye

The elemental overlord, Bane of the Black dragonflight, bug squisher and enemy of the squids with one eye, Demon Slapper, the prepared, Silvermoon streetsweeper, reburier of the frozen north, The blue menace, Ashbringers wake, Mogu mocker, Trollbane, siege engine of orgrimmar, time traveller, leader of the clans, Titan twister, Eye poker, and soon to be extra dimensional correctional facility reformer has arrived on the premices and is waiting for his loot and mounts.
Please form a line and have your belongings ready to be looted.

This, oh so much this.

[loras]

I think it's pretty obvious that they'll pull a Lich King 2.0 and after we defeat the Jailer, Sylvannas is going to take his place and be the ruler of the Maw.

I just hope they'll surprise us and don't go this route. What do you guys think?

Seems very unlikely.
The Lich King was a mortal with a fancy hat, the Jailer is a titan 2.0, Sylvanas has no way up to match his power, especially after he falls.

So yeah i expect Sylvanas to kick the bucket.

[Philenia]

Nah Arthas will be the jailer instead. You really think we're going to go all of Shadowlands without Athas?

Plot twist Arthas doesn't have a big impact on the story in this xpack. But the void v light xpack he is going to be the main man fighting against both.

But I hope we only see a glimpse of Arthas, where he will passes on from of the maw to revendread of maldraxxus. I'm getting sick of redemption story arcs, just for fan service. But Arthas did nothing wrong, he was just misguided. Bit if they want Arthas to have a bigger story then I wanna see him join Maldraxxus to rebuild it since he knows a lot about the scourge which is from Maldraxxus.

[Minikin]

Hear ye hear ye

The elemental overlord, Bane of the Black dragonflight, bug squisher and enemy of the squids with one eye, Demon Slapper, the prepared, Silvermoon streetsweeper, reburier of the frozen north, The blue menace, Ashbringers wake, Mogu mocker, Trollbane, siege engine of orgrimmar, time traveller, leader of the clans, Titan twister, Eye poker, and soon to be extra dimensional correctional facility reformer has arrived on the premices and is waiting for his loot and mounts.
Please form a line and have your belongings ready to be looted.

Yep that would do it

[Kumorii]

Either Sylvie will end up dicking the Jailor, or she'll be dicked by him /yawn

Pretty sure you can experience both kinds of dicking already if you want.

[Scrod]

One thing is certain and that is that it will not be a suprise in the end.

The story always ends in dissapointment. Most recently N zoth. We players always come up with the most interesting hooks only to find out it was the most obvious outcome all along.

Its getting annoying, but what can you do with a 12+ game, you can only go that far..

My big issue is that they don't ever want us to feel like the story is wrapped up, so that when they offer us a conclusion, like they did in BFA, it is overshadowed by the new plot thread they are starting... like "WTF is Slyvanas doing?" "Wait, Gul'dan escaped?", etc.

[Soon-TM]

Pretty sure you can experience both kinds of dicking already if you want.

And what exactly is that supposed to mean?

i expect some arthas/sylvanas drama about carrying the weight of all 'humanity'

We didn't even have that in WotLK, so it's highly unlikely we're going to see anything like this in SL. We HAVE seen Anduin putting Sylvanas to questions though.

[Kumorii]

And what exactly is that supposed to mean?

Oh, so innocent. Rule 34.

[bagina]

Inb4 someone mentions Sylvanas in HoR, since it isn't canon.

For fuck's sake, what? Then WHAT is canon at this point?

[Soon-TM]

Oh, so innocent. Rule 34.

Dude/tte, kindly speak clearly or don't speak at all.

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For fuck's sake, what? Then WHAT is canon at this point?

The canon version of HoR is Alliance's. Ditto for something as recent as the War of Thorns.

[bagina]

The canon version of HoR is Alliance's. Ditto for something as recent as the War of Thorns.

Huh. And some people have the gall to scream "Horde bias"? Okay...

[Ryonas]

I think it's pretty obvious that they'll pull a Lich King 2.0 and after we defeat the Jailer, Sylvannas is going to take his place and be the ruler of the Maw.

I just hope they'll surprise us and don't go this route. What do you guys think?

No. That bitch is going away permanently.

[Kumorii]

Dude/tte, kindly speak clearly or don't speak at all.

What? I thought rule 34 was clear enough. Apparently I was wrong, no idea why you took such offense though.

Rule 34: If it can be thought of, there is porn of it.

[rogueMatthias]

Is there actual evidence of Arthas playing a role or is this just fan speculation? Wish they'd just let him stay dead

Well he's in the Shadowlands so he's going to stay dead at least lol. Either that or Shadowlands will lead into a "Return of the Lich King" espansion.

It's speculation.. BUT...

We already know Arthas will be seen again at some point, as he's wrongly placed in the Maw.
Despite new characters created, Athas and Illidan are still two of the biggest and most popular characters of the franchise.
With all the time in Icecrown and the iconography and landscape of the Maw drawing HEAVILY from Icecrown, there's huge amounts pandering to WOTLK nostalgia already, even without Arthas.

You've got to ask yourself.. What's more important to Activision/Blizzard? Stick to growth of story and not bring back old character to rehash them unnesesarily... or making more dollars. If you think the former, Illidan would like to disagree with you.