Afrasiabi left Blizzard?

[uuuhname]

I'm saying your knee-jerk reaction to call everybody a misogynist doesn't work on me

and I'm saying your knee jerk reaction to say "don't trust woke women" when a law suite a state government spent two years investigating and compiling doesn't work on me.

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Again, where is that in this 17 page thread? That was my question and you started foaming at the mouth..

Jesus Christ dude it's on the front page of this website. I'm not holding your hand though this.

[Video Games]

and I'm saying your knee jerk reaction to say "don't trust woke women" when a law suite a sate government spent two years investigating and compiling doesn't work on me.

Cool, but yeah they lie so much they forget to even switch to their alt accounts to threatened themselves. You also missed the part where I believe these allegations anyway

[uuuhname]

Cool, but yeah they lie so much they forget to even switch to their alt accounts to threatened themselves. You also missed the part where I believe these allegations anyway

who the hell are you talking about? these people might as well be unicorns. no I noticed that part it makes your attitude here all the more bizarre.

[Ihavewaffles]

Jesus Christ dude it's on the front page of this website. I'm not holding your hand though this.

Is this the thread on the front page? No. In that case, why are you complaining why people are here?

"I'm literally in this thread complaining why you are in not another thread!"

[Edge-]

Y'all, take a moment to step back and chill. Keep things on topic and don't get personal. If you want to discuss the broader lawsuit, there's a discussion thread for that - https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-By-California

[Daronokk]

misogynists' seriously cannot help but expose themselves on here.

Did you feel personally attacked with that comment or something? Do you have weird coloured hair?

Anyway, the guy was just asking for proof. If there isn't any it's a pointless case. If there is, let's see it then.

[Video Games]

who the hell are you talking about? these people might as well be unicorns. no I noticed that part it makes your attitude here all the more bizarre.

Brianna wu, a game dev, accidently threatened herself on her dev account on steam so I don't think it'd very bizarre to not believe total strangers.

[uuuhname]

Brianna wu, a game dev, accidently threatened herself on her dev account on steam so I don't think it'd very bizarre to not believe total strangers.

cool, the one instance, as I predicted. you have about as much evidence these women are "woke" as I do, which is none, nada, bupkis.

[Video Games]

cool, the one instance, as I predicted. you have about as much evidence these women are "woke" as I do, which is none, nada, bupkis.

I mean there's so many to name. Anita sarkeesian, zoe quinn, zombie unicorn, that one chick from arenanet that got fired for sperging out on twitter etc etc all lie all the time

[uuuhname]

I mean there's so many to name. Anita sarkeesian, zoe quinn, zombie unicorn etc etc all lie all the time

and yet, AND YET, you have nothing to say or prove to show that such a thing is happening in that suite CA has filed against Blizzard. you only have your prejudices.

[Edge-]

This isn't the thread to discuss women and honesty y'all, keep things on topic, take it to the GenOT thread, or take it to PM's.

[MatthewOU2015]

I hope they arrest his creepy ass. Women are treated like dirt in the tech industry. Shame on you Activision SHAME on YOU

[Naoto]

and yet, AND YET, you have nothing to say or prove to show that such a thing is happening in that suite CA has filed against Blizzard. you only have your prejudices.

So what exactly is happening in the law suit against Blizzard since you seem to be in the know. Does it also mention Afrasiabi by name?

[uuuhname]

This isn't the thread to discuss women and honesty y'all, keep things on topic, take it to the GenOT thread, or take it to PM's.

don't worry, I'm not entertaining this garbage anymore.

[Video Games]

and yet, AND YET, you have nothing to say or prove to show that such a thing is happening in that suite CA has filed against Blizzard. you only have your prejudices.

For the 3rd and final time, I said I believe it so no shit I don't have anything to prove it false

[LordVargK]

@MrLachyG

They did all their PR, they made token changes, then a few months later went to multiple counter-suits to set precedent to make it possible to sue employees for future whistleblowing. The judges repeatedly dismissed those suits and now, after several years, some employees have expressed that it feels like change is starting. I doubt that would have occurred had Riot not been forced to accept that their employees are legally allowed to air their grievances.

Though, that it was ever in question, is a distinctly American work culture problem. Civilised countries have workers rights and protections by default with socialised access to ombudsmen and tribunals for violations of workers rights. And you can't, generally, be asked to waiver your rights as they're enshrined in law.

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That section is a bit misleading. The "Cosby (sic*) Suite" was a room at the (I think) Marriott during BlizzCon that was named for the random framed portrait of Bill Cosby that was in the room. It was where the (all male, very drunk) senior WoW team afterparty was held. This was all the way back at, I think roughly, BlizzCon '09 - '11. (I know Ghostcrawler was there so it would have been before MoP). This well predates the major publicity of the Cosby offences which went mainstream in 2014. So the lawsuit, whilst undeniably evidenced in multiple point and should definitely be taken seriously as a matter of Blizzard very culture, does egg it up a bit in that section.

Though, for all I/we know, what started as a reasonable (admittedly, still distinctly "frat boy"-esque) situation could have come to represent something much more insidious off-camera. I don't doubt for a second that BlizzCon was a major opportunity for some developers to "closely connect" with their (probably swept up in the excitement, grandeur and a few drinks) "community". Some of that is probably fair game. Some of it definitely crosses into abuse of power territory. And in a 6000 person party environment, I'm not even going to hesitate to say some bad shit goes down every BlizzCon for some people.

Thanks for the insight. I thought that was the name for Afrasabi's office room.
But can you explain why the report speaks of "Crosby"? Is this the suite's name now?

[Kathranis]

So what exactly is happening in the law suit against Blizzard since you seem to be in the know. Does it also mention Afrasiabi by name?

Yes, in fact he's the only one specifically mentioned by name, to highlight how egregious his behavior was. It says he was given special treatment by other leads / executives, and that Brack gave him verbal warnings but nothing ever really came of it.

It also calls out supervisors on the WoW and Battle.net teams for participating in or encouraging sexual harassment, and that HR wasn't helpful.

It's not clear how many of the other complaints are specific to Blizzard, versus other Activision studios. Those are the harassment complaints specifically ascribed to Blizzard Entertainment.

[Beefhammer]

Yes, in fact he's the only one specifically mentioned by name, to highlight how egregious his behavior was. It says he was given special treatment by other leads / executives, and that Brack gave him verbal warnings but nothing ever really came of it.

It also calls out supervisors on the WoW and Battle.net teams for participating in or encouraging sexual harassment, and that HR wasn't helpful.

It's not clear how many of the other complaints are specific to Blizzard, versus other Activision studios. Those are the harassment complaints specifically ascribed to Blizzard Entertainment.

Wouldn't surprise me if true. AA seems like a typical bro in that sense. Also wouldn't surprise me if he we forced out or let go becasue of this.

[Sorrowseer]

All the people lamenting the 'talent' leaving blizzard over the past few years... but these past two years ish blizzard has known about the investigation, in all honesty it puts their leaving in a new light, did they leave for reasosn other than they stated? This is ofc hearsey, but the implications are worrying.

Yes, in fact he's the only one specifically mentioned by name, to highlight how egregious his behavior was. It says he was given special treatment by other leads / executives, and that Brack gave him verbal warnings but nothing ever really came of it.

It also calls out supervisors on the WoW and Battle.net teams for participating in or encouraging sexual harassment, and that HR wasn't helpful.

It's not clear how many of the other complaints are specific to Blizzard, versus other Activision studios. Those are the harassment complaints specifically ascribed to Blizzard Entertainment.

From what I have seen of the document Supervisors are mentioned a lot and it comes across as a pretty deep seated festering infection.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

well hopefully Blizzard actually do something

If we want to be optimistic we could guess Afriasabi being removed was a start but given that we’re just now hearing about it and through a lawsuit of all things I can’t say I’d full my breath for that.