Why do we care?
Guy spent 16 years in one company, it's only natural he moves on.
... Which is exactly the problem with people whinging that WoW is "woke" because it includes dark-skinned elves, or LGBTQ couples, or has female characters at the front of a loading screen...
I'm all for dark humour, joking about tough subjects (Ambulance personell do it all the time) and not driving social media outrage hunts, but come on...
And Trump doing well was in part a direct response to a black man in the Oval Office. I'd prefer to be among the PC snowflakes if the only other option, was the bigoted snowflakes. Luckily, there's a middle ground. And I'm just as fine with saucy jokes as I am with more varied representation in fictional worlds.
Either way, it's derailment and I'm assuming edging into forbidden topics, so that's all I'll say on the matter.
For once I actually agree with almost everything you said.
But I do have deep concerns about Activision's future involvement with Blizzard. I know that's been a meme people have rolled out wrongly in the past, but I do wonder if it's going to become an actual reality with all the old-guard of Blizzard moving on to other things. I bitch a LOT about things Blizzard does, but they're not a candle to the flame of Activision's corporate philosophy.
As much as I agree with you about Afrasiabi leaving, do you think his replacement is really going to improve things? Change them, certainly. But not for the better, I think.
I have mentioned in the past that he wasn't in the credits for Shadowlands as creative director, I also pointed out that he has been completely absent from BlizzCon or any interviews in a long time.
Chris Robinson as well, for the art side of things. They have had a different person doing interviews about art direction, and he is not listed as art director in the credits.
I would guess they silently left, not fired, I don't see any reason they would be fired.
Why not?
Afrasiabi never showed any particular talent. He only got promoted whilst his buddy Pardo was in charge. All he fucking ever did, AFAICT, was take a potentially unnecessary management position, seem like he didn't know much and wasn't very nice in interviews (and as others have pointed out, has been absent from Blizzcon and interviews for a long time, which is wicked bizarre for a "Creative Director", normally they'd be front and centre), and slap his name all over everything? Unfair? Maybe, but I'd love to see what good stuff he supposedly did, because I ain't never heard about it.
So why would you think the replacement would be worse? I'd genuinely like to hear what you think he's going to do, given you apparently think Afrasiabi was somehow doing something good, not "doing shit all", which is what I'm pretty sure he's been doing for quite a while now.
What the fuck?
Why?
Golden isn't some useless old-guard dude who got hired with zero experience and zero talent.
Golden got hired because she's hard-working and highly experienced at what she does. She's not even a decision-maker. If you've got problems with WoW's story, maybe take it up with Danuser, who is a decision-maker about it, or I dunno, the ex-creative-director, Alex Afrasiabi, who is in charge of that and subject of this thread. Shitting on a random writer, who you probably only know the name of because she's female, seems pretty fucking weird mate. Asking to fire an actual worker for the boss' decision is a lot of what's wrong with the world today, frankly. All we actually know about her is that she's a bit better at writing than some of the people who write for Blizzard.
"A youtuber said so."
"... some wow experts being interviewed..."
"According to researchers from Wowhead..."
goldens writing is not that great and she rectoned forsaken lore so she could understand them better.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
lmfao WHAT?! I don't even know where to begin. All the lore she's written has been utter trash and further pushes the tired idea of "horde bad Alliance good". She also gave worgen TAILS for no god damned reason. I'm not "shitting on a random writer" and it has nothing to do with her gender. Not sure why you had to make it about gender. She's a SENIOR writer at Blizzard. Which means she actually has a good amount of pull. She's really not better at writing than some of the people at Blizzard. I actually think her writing is atrocious and her butchering of lore makes me hate her more. Notice how the lore went incredibly downhill after she was hired...hmmmmmm....
Yea right there with you.
I was surprised to see a live action movie when we all know they make amazing cinematics and could just as well make a full length feature film with just that. That it fairly flopped with most of us should have told Blizz something.
The big name back then was EverQuest. And apparently you didn't play that because WoW was a breath of fresh air when it came out.
This. Afrasiabi was mainly in a creative role anyway. In my opinion, there has to be a shake-up every now and then with something of the magnitude of the Warcraft series and especially in creative roles. You can only contribute so much and eventually fresh ideas will be needed.
I honestly have to agree. Blizzard seems like it’s more focused on “progressive representation” than hitting cool, meaningful story beats anymore.
I honestly miss Metzen, his passion for the Lore was infectious. I never got the impression Samwise Didier was that into the Lore, but there’s no doubt his art style shaped the franchise in a big way (even if it’s not as clean or pleasant looking as Raneman’s).
In any case, given HOW many old folks are leaving Blizzard, I think there is a lot of reason for long time fans to be concerned. By all accounts, it definitely seems like Activision has been taking more direct control of the company, and frankly I don’t know what of “Blizzard” really still exists, beyond the name and legal ownership of its IP’s. Certainly doesn’t seem to have the same work culture, for better or worse.
You may want to read the entire thread history before leaping tp conclusions. Specifically this post.
Not to mention that I'm pretty sure Afriasabi was one of the biggest people behind the push for WoW without flying back in WoD, in case you needed even more reason for me to dislike him.
So it's not that he's good. He's actually pretty bad from most accounts. I just believe there's a high likelihood of his replacement being worse.
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>MMO-C: Ion fired???????
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