Afrasiabi left Blizzard?

[Houle]

Lol, have you been to the forums? Steve Danuser is the main scapegoat.

mayyyybe because he is the lead narrative designer...

[Freeghost]

O rly?
The medical profession would like to have a word with you.

Well you are techincally a docter after your University. Sure you have todo like atleast 4-5 additional years to become a specialist.

[Mehrunes]

Ahh yes because people hated a man it's impossible to hate the woman because she's woman. That's just a bad as the I can't be racist I have a Black friend defense.

Uh-huh. Because when people claim they criticize a writer for their writing, it's just what it is to you when that writer is a man, but when the writer just so happens to be a woman it's ermahgerd, those people are lying and it's because she has a vagina. Once again, you're reaching so hard it's not even funny anymore. There's nothing "as bad" as anything here. Because you've done absolutely jack shit to establish that Golden is singled out for being a woman and that the criticism she gets is any different than the criticism other writers get in the first place. And trying to wiggle your way out of this fact like you just did is not only utterly ineffective, it's just lazy.

[TrueHorde]

He wanted Garrosh to be a great warchief and was one of the only writers to write him so back in Cataclysm.
By the way, is there any real confirmation of him leaving?

He moved to Titan team after patch 4.1. And then Kosak took over. Metzen had always hated Garrosh.This was the main reason they changed Garrosh in MoP. totally a murder.

Afrasiabi:Garrosh was one of those ones where Metzen and I actually sat down, we are like we need Grommash’s kid. He is going to be in Nagrand, and he has a destiny that we need to fulfill; and we didn’t quite know where that destiny would go, and initially we wanted to go much more heroic with Garrosh.
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-about-Garrosh

Afrasiabi:I think it starts with Garrosh. When we first made Garrosh back in Burning Crusade, I remember Metzen and I sitting down -- and I did Nagrand, Garrosh was my guy...
https://www.engadget.com/2014-11-11-...e-azeroth.html

Metzen: I would say Garrosh remaining Warchief ... his term as Warchief was always going to be ... brief. Bringing him up, you know, Alex Afrasiabi created this character for Outland, hanging out in Garadar, and he was just written so well.
https://www.engadget.com/2012-03-19-...interview.html

Metzen: That would be telling. Is he daddy's son, or can he straighten out? (Interesting that it was phrased that way). A theme that Blizzard is really trying to push, actually. They know and appreciate that Garrosh is a "contentious" character. He's part of a far larger storyline including Thrall ("And dammit, I like talking about guys like Thrall. He's the most important person on Azeroth."), who is a pivotal character. Thrall had a great bit in Nagrand but Metzen doesn't think they've actually used him to his potential. The whole Garrosh deal actually has a lot to do with Thrall.

References Christie Golden's "The Shattering." Sees Thrall as a Clark Kent-type character, good guy who may not really know his true strength. "He's never taken the time to just grow," was pushed into leadership very young. Metzen sees Garrosh used as a counterpoint to Thrall, the former as a hothead against someone who thinks. Ultimately, Garrosh "is the foil to Thrall." Don't get fixated on Garrosh; the story's not ultimately about him. Thinks this is going to be some of the best storytelling that WoW has ever done. "If you love the Horde today, how much more will you love it when you need to fight for it?"
https://www.engadget.com/2010-10-22-...-liveblog.html

[Xilurm]

Why is it that people have a problem with Golden and not the other writers?

Did you miss the Danuser hate train that's been in full speed for the past like, year or more?

[Al Gorefiend]

I like Christie Golden's direction with the story and it is fine if some of you don't. I think its better than the sunwell raid spawned from a manga.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I like Christie Golden's direction with the story and it is fine if some of you don't. I think its better than the sunwell raid spawned from a manga.

It’s not goldens’s direction she pretty much just does cut scenes shorts books ect, form the sound of her tweets. it would be Danuser’s leading things and the game team calling the shots and then golden is part of the team that fills out there orders.

[Traveler Voltin]

Why is it that people have a problem with Golden and not the other writers?

its not just golden that is hated. Warcrimes i think is consider the last okay book by Golden by people.
I know a few were not happen with some rectons on forsaken lore and what happened with Calia.

[Soon-TM]

Give a proof that Golden is hated just because she is a woman instead of being talentless hack.

Meh, I wouldn't have bothered with that. After all, for some folks ITT it's easier to play the knight-in-shining-armour routine, rather than providing actual arguments.

[donomito]

Quite frankly, it doesn't surprise me.

Afrasiabi is a perfect example of the peter principle, he got promoted until he reached a point where he was no longer able to do his job properly due to a lack of skills.
He started out as a quest designer for WoW and nearly a decade later ended up being some lead position as far as the story is concerned.

It takes no genius to figure out that being a former Everquest player and having written some questchains for Vanilla is not enough to be in a leadership role, especially when the Blizzard has bigger narrative ambitions for the game and wants to move away from the more simplistic storytelling of the past.

Whether he left, was "asked to leave" or got booted is another story, but the dude simply didn't have what was needed for this position.

As a reminder:
He, among other things, created the Thunderfury questchain (which is cool)
He also was the guy that tweeted "There is only one Legion across all realities" (which is just bad) - i still remember how WoWpedia had an extra (alternate Universe) page for every demon that appeared in WoD (such as Mannoroth) and then deleted all of them shortly after he tweeted that.

lol the dude was there for 16 years and you are saying he doesn't know what he is doing, are you retarded or just stupid.

[Kralljin]

lol the dude was there for 16 years and you are saying he doesn't know what he is doing, are you retarded or just stupid.

No idea why you felt the urge to reply to a thread that's almost half a year old, but it's actually not uncommon in larger corporations that some people, despite not having credentials, manage to wiggle themselves through for quite some time, either because they get "lost" in the size of the operations or because of personal connections.

And frankly, being promoted to a position you are unable to fill has even a name: it's called Peter principle.

[Soon-TM]

lol the dude was there for 16 years and you are saying he doesn't know what he is doing, are you retarded or just stupid.

Your ad hominem is duly noted, but it isn't that uncommon that those who are good at office politics end up being promoted before actually knowledgeable people.

[Shelly]

lol the dude was there for 16 years and you are saying he doesn't know what he is doing, are you retarded or just stupid.

It's not what you know, it's WHO you know.

[mikemcdonald]

"After 14 years, he left Blizzard in June 2020."

He was also scrubbed from Blizzard's linkdin entry and they have plenty of former employees still listed. Seems he might have been fired?

Took a few months, but now this all makes sense...

[Zaktar]

I'm not clear on why discussion of the Activision-Blizzard lawsuit is being censored. "Forbidden topics"? Are you kidding me? Blizzard is central to this website's existence, and what apparently went on at that company was vile. It deserves to be discussed here. Moderate if you're gonna moderate, but trying to pretend it isn't happening is disgusting. An exception is warranted.

[MrLachyG]

BREAKING: People change jobs sometimes

or they're fired for repeatedly sexually harassing female employees

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I'm not clear on why discussion of the Activision-Blizzard lawsuit discussion is being censored. "Forbidden topics"? Are you kidding me? Blizzard is central to this website's existence, and what apparently went on at that company was vile. It deserves to be discussed here. Moderate if you're gonna moderate, but trying to pretend it isn't happening is disgusting. An exception is warranted.

I don't think it was your thread; it was the replies. sometimes topics can go downhill really quickly due to users posting shit against the rules

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Maybe he's been involved in some #metoo stuff grabbing colleagues asses or something that forced him to leave and Blizzard sweeping it under the rug tp avoid bad publicity right before upcoming release of Shadowlands?

So, how does it feel to be right?

[Zaktar]

or they're fired for repeatedly sexually harassing female employees

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I don't think it was your thread; it was the replies. sometimes topics can go downhill really quickly due to users posting shit against the rules

It wasn't my thread and the replies are what they are. It's an awful topic, but trying to hide from it when this whole website basically exists because of Blizzard's games is pathetic.

[Th3Scourge]

I wouldn't blame Christie Golden for narrative direction. That blame falls squarely on that bald fat fuck Danuser, the Sylvanas simp that wrote himself into the storyline and has probably destroyed more of the IP's goodwill than any other individual

Golden, and to a larger extent Madeline Rioux or however the fuck you spell it can get fucked for dragging wow through culture war bullshit. Especially Madeline, she's a legitimate racist and sexist piece of shit

[rhorle]

It wasn't my thread and the replies are what they are. It's an awful topic, but trying to hide from it when this whole website basically exists because of Blizzard's games is pathetic.

The front page has a post about it and links to an article discussing it. The website is not trying to hide it. It is just trying to keep rule breaking responses/stuff to a minimum.