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  1. #121
    Algalon should have just reset Azeroth.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Thraendil View Post
    Actually, I think we've all gotten her story really really wrong, and that her story arc actually might turn out to be quite "beautiful" and "touching" even.

    I think she meant to say something like: "we can't even choose who we see in our afterlife".

    Most likely, this goes back to her suicide after WotLK. She went straight to the maw, and probably expected to see a love interest we don't know about, or perhaps a family member or something similar. Instead, she only experienced suffering and darkness. Her first thought when the Val'kyrs brought her back must've been something like: "I would rather see this cycle break than to spend an eternity without this special person".

    Ever since, she has probably plotted a way to "break the cycle" (her own words), so that she may be reunited with this person. I don't think it's Nathanos she's thinking about. Her dealings with the Val'kyrs was not to get an eternal life as to escape the maw, but rather to buy time to finish the job.

    It's quite fascinating really. She would rather break the whole world, and the afterlife, to be reunited. Isn't that one epic love story? I don't think this is meant to be some sort of "redemption", just an explanation of her motives that actually makes sense.
    It could be possible if there wasn't a book featuring her inner thoughts, feelings and motivations. Unfortunatelly there is, and the fact none of this Shadowlands / Machine of Death / Jailer stuff is in it is absurd enough.

  3. #123
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    Where does this cinematic play? I never got it in game.

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    I also have to ask where this one plays, because I feel like I missed something major if this can be found ingame already.
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    They didn't.
    They didnt? They posted it on their official YouTube channel at launch, while the cinematic wasnt shown to anyone in game yet (and i believe it still isnt?). Did i miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reevoo View Post
    Did i miss something?
    Yes, i think you are mistaking wowhead for the official wow youtube channel.

    Blizzard has not and does not post cinematics unless they are live available.

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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrathius View Post
    We know that's not the case though, or at least, it shouldn't be.

    Arthas wasn't even meant to go into the Maw, and only ended up there because Uther took matters into his own hands. Next to him, the idea that your average Forsaken would merit eternal damnation is utterly ludicrous.
    Can someone tell me where we learn about this? I've played everything in Shadowlands and this was never told to me. :/

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by merli View Post
    Can someone tell me where we learn about this? I've played everything in Shadowlands and this was never told to me. :/
    In one of the promo videos for Shadowlands dedicated to Bastion


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    Quote Originally Posted by merli View Post
    Can someone tell me where we learn about this? I've played everything in Shadowlands and this was never told to me. :/
    if I'm not mistaken, insta-Maw for Forsaken or anyone affected by Frostmourne was old lore
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Yes, i think you are mistaking wowhead for the official wow youtube channel.

    Blizzard has not and does not post cinematics unless they are live available.
    That must be it then. When i click the link to the YouTube video it seems to show the official wow channel below it. But its not i guess. Confusing then lol.

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Thraendil View Post
    Actually, I think we've all gotten her story really really wrong, and that her story arc actually might turn out to be quite "beautiful" and "touching" even.

    I think she meant to say something like: "we can't even choose who we see in our afterlife".

    Most likely, this goes back to her suicide after WotLK. She went straight to the maw, and probably expected to see a love interest we don't know about, or perhaps a family member or something similar. Instead, she only experienced suffering and darkness. Her first thought when the Val'kyrs brought her back must've been something like: "I would rather see this cycle break than to spend an eternity without this special person".

    Ever since, she has probably plotted a way to "break the cycle" (her own words), so that she may be reunited with this person. I don't think it's Nathanos she's thinking about. Her dealings with the Val'kyrs was not to get an eternal life as to escape the maw, but rather to buy time to finish the job.

    It's quite fascinating really. She would rather break the whole world, and the afterlife, to be reunited. Isn't that one epic love story? I don't think this is meant to be some sort of "redemption", just an explanation of her motives that actually makes sense.
    1. I refuse to believe she wasn't going to say we can't even choose who we love. Too cliche not to use it
    2. Nathanos was a human that she was rumored to be in love with before their deaths
    3. She never got to show her love for him in life, and she was bound by duty (and Nathanos "personally felt that whatever emotion his [and thus her] mortal heart might have held, now it had room only for rage and contempt") in death, never returning the affection he showed her.
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