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  1. #181
    from bastion to maldraxxus felt like i was in heaven and bam ! back to hell. transition was unexpected to say the least

    i ADAPT when it comes to wow i guess, if we continue on topic. i am generally content with what i am offered and go on with the general flow. i pvp if it is the best option, i do mythic plus if it is the fotm etc. but this doesn't make me a brain-dead zombie of any sort. i just try to enjoy what i have at hand i guess. i am too much (like more than 15 years) invested in this game and i feel like i can't leave it no matter what.
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    Same boring formula as it was in BFA. Go to the quest hub, get 3 quests, a kill quest, a collect quest and another, usually to find someone. Complete them then kill an elite. Move on to the next hub and repeat....

    All my alts will level through dungeons I think. Questing is far too tedious for me.
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  3. #183
    While I get the 'it's a mix of things we have seen before', IMO what makes both Bastion and Ardenweald so great to me is that they have recognizable slices from other zones but the mixture is just really satisfying. There's been other zones where it feels like "it just reminds me of X and Y" but in this case it's elevated in a way.

    Ardenweald especially to me has what I loved the most from zones like Shadowmoon Valley (WoD), Zangarmarsh, the Nelf zones, but I would say I like it more than any of those.

  4. #184
    I think visually its wallpaper bait but in practice its a very empty feeling zone comparable to og nagrand but with less quests and the good guys are some strange breatharian style 'gotta deep cleanse my feelings' cult that i didn't feel meshed well with the player characters.

    Like every death knight player that did the original death knight starting experience thats all about "remember who you used to be" or the demon hunters with illidans emo but on point "i AM my scars" seeing people want to basically reset their personality and go "nothing that happened before was meaningful to shaping your personality, moral code or sense of ethics. Everyone needs to look the same, act the same and think the same" like a creepy blend of scientology and tumblr.

    Then Uther shows up siding with the guys who just want to keep being who they are and you get a percentage bar to fill by killing them.

    I get it is meant to be some 'they were manipulated by the maw' deal but were that not involved its had to relate to the 'good guys' that feel like some strange argument for suicide of the self from a drunk on facebook at 2am but as an ethos.
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    I don't mind it visually, but the rest...

    I find Bastion to be incredibly boring and formulaic. The quests are stuff we've seen a million times before. Seriously, how many minds do we need to cleanse by killing representations of their fear/paranoia/whatever. The characters there all look the same too, it's so hard to differentiate between them. It's a challenge to continue playing, but I want to experience the other zones so I have no choice.

  6. #186
    Thought 3 out of 4 of the zones were home runs, but Maldraxxus is without a doubt the worst zone, both aesthetically and narratively, in the entire game for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art the Clown View Post
    All my alts will level through dungeons I think. Questing is far too tedious for me.
    To each their own, but man, the very thought of leveling through dungeons sounds like nausea inducing tedium to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Season2mask View Post
    I love WoW. I've been playing it since I was 12 back in early TBC.

    Now that that's out of the way. Is anyone else finding it a real chore to play through Bastion? It looks alright, but it's also so samey. It has barely any variation in its looks. We've also done this sort of thing before. We've purified ourselves in Pandaria...we've fought similar constructs in Mac'aree (which Bastion reminds me of) I honestly expected more from Blizzard here. I really am struggling to care about doing all these Kryian trials. It's nothing new and I know in the end it won't be important. Bastion just lacks that something special that other zones have had.

    Edit: In case you feel inclined to write something like, 'People like different stuff', don't bother, you're really wasting your time. Yes, of course everything is subjective. This is my subjective opinion. It's a discussion, not an attack on your very soul. It's great that you love Bastion. I don't.
    You know, I went to Blizzcon in 2019 and when they asked for feedback for Shadowlands (the zone we tried was Bastion) my first statement to Blizzard was "This feels really similar to Mac'aree and zones we've done before. It's a brighter version of Suramar"

    I just found it amusing that you mentioned Mac'aree as well as an example when I said that to them.

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    Bastion is one of the most visually stunning zones. I liked the quests as well.

    As much as the storytelling is excellent, the questing experience is way too much on rails now, you have almost no choice on what you do, when you do it and which order you do it. It's full of unskippable RP acting and escorts. You're a dummy being dragged around. This will be living hell on alts. I already hated war campagin in BFA, but this is the whole leveling process now. Not sure how much of it is mandatory on alts. Fairly fun and OK at first but there is zero replayability there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Thought 3 out of 4 of the zones were home runs, but Maldraxxus is without a doubt the worst zone, both aesthetically and narratively, in the entire zone for me.

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    To each their own, but man, the very thought of leveling through dungeons sounds like nausea inducing tedium to me.
    Crazy how subjective it is. Maldraxxus blew me away compared to Bastion which made me question why I play this game. Its like a completely different dev team made it. But I love scourge and metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Thought 3 out of 4 of the zones were home runs, but Maldraxxus is without a doubt the worst zone, both aesthetically and narratively, in the entire zone for me.

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    To each their own, but man, the very thought of leveling through dungeons sounds like nausea inducing tedium to me.
    Revendreth is a nightmare to navigate. Aesthetically it's nice for the theme but it's just a chore.

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    I am kind of torn on Bastion honestly. On one hand, it is absolutely gorgeous and it has some interesting stuff going down at the end of the story quests. On the other hand, you have to run errands for what is basically a cult. When I am starting to agree with the antagonists, it starts feeling weird trying to help the "good guys" all the time. Maybe that was the intention of the zone? Because you were able to "pick a side" during one section of the questline. Hope that gets expanded on once you pick Bastion as a covenant.

    Another disappointment for me about Bastion was the severe lack of Uther. You see him a couple of times at most with no interactions with you the player and then you have to move on to the next zone. It felt more like an appetiser to the more interesting stuff rather than the main event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    I think visually its wallpaper bait but in practice its a very empty feeling zone comparable to og nagrand but with less quests and the good guys are some strange breatharian style 'gotta deep cleanse my feelings' cult that i didn't feel meshed well with the player characters.

    Like every death knight player that did the original death knight starting experience thats all about "remember who you used to be" or the demon hunters with illidans emo but on point "i AM my scars" seeing people want to basically reset their personality and go "nothing that happened before was meaningful to shaping your personality, moral code or sense of ethics. Everyone needs to look the same, act the same and think the same" like a creepy blend of scientology and tumblr.

    Then Uther shows up siding with the guys who just want to keep being who they are and you get a percentage bar to fill by killing them.

    I get it is meant to be some 'they were manipulated by the maw' deal but were that not involved its had to relate to the 'good guys' that feel like some strange argument for suicide of the self from a drunk on facebook at 2am but as an ethos.
    Yeah. I felt pretty weirded out by the whole "forgetting your past" and "cleansing yourself" bits overall. Considering that Bastion is supposed to be the place where the more virtuous and good people end up, it is just really unsettling that they must be the ones who forget their own actions, morals, values, and beliefs when it was those very things that made them eligible for Bastion in the first place. Becoming a Kyrian is basically just another step to becoming truly dead, since how can you truly know you lived if you never remembered any of it?

    Finished Maldraxxus last night. If I had to choose between the two, I would rather end up in Maldraxxus. It may be an endless war, but at least I would not become an empty husk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorri View Post
    To people who are calling the zones and expansion boring, it could be that you have become jaded after playing the game for too long. Maybe it's time to stop playing WoW, or find another expansion.
    I found Bastion boring, but I enjoyed the other zones - especially Maldraxxus.

    One doesnt have to like every single thing in an expansion.
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  13. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Rioriel View Post
    Oh god. Tell me it isn’t so

    Was going to resub on payday and buy it. Nooooooo XD
    I mean, the expansion is still worth it, there is just a pretty big slog through bastion. Though idk, it may just be me other people seem to like the zone a lot.

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