View Poll Results: Who are you rooting for to claim Race to World First: Sire Denathrius

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  • Method [EU]

    23 6.69%
  • Limit [US]

    198 57.56%
  • Echo [EU]

    74 21.51%
  • Pieces [EU]

    9 2.62%
  • BIG DUMB GUILD [US]

    7 2.03%
  • Exorsus [EU(RU)]

    3 0.87%
  • Aversion [EU]

    2 0.58%
  • Lazarus Imperative [US]

    1 0.29%
  • FatSharkYes [EU]

    3 0.87%
  • Club Camel [US]

    4 1.16%
  • The Cleveland Browns/Other/No One!!

    20 5.81%
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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    I don't get why you're honing in on the specific amounts of money in the scene so much when that wasn't even really relevant to the original discussion at any point.
    Are you fucking kidding? Not relevent?

    Metvod is a company you sperg not just a guild. Money is the most inportant thing and havkng nonce protrctors associated with your brand is always bad for buissness.

    And the to say im not using logic.... fuck me its buissness 101, reputation comes first, how many fuckibg top sportsmen need to be sacked for diddling those they shouldnt, to save a brands rep befor people get that brand reputation comes befor everything.

  2. #622
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    You can see it. Look at viewer numbers between esport events, prize pools e.t.c

    Wow is nothing compared to games like cod and such
    I never denied that. I denied you claiming Sco doesn't give a fuck about WoW and world firsts and you claiming WoW is such a small thing for Method and that they don't need world firsts in WoW.

    You replied to this
    Yes he would want them back because Sco cares about winning, in fact he accepted a lot of people back to Method from Serenity including Fragnance, Gingi, Deepshades, Zaelia, Viklund and probably some more because having them was making Method stronger, you also don't want good players to go to the competition making competition stronger.
    Logic > Feelings
    with this
    Winning... you assume getting yet another world first in a game that isnt even that popular any more is what he would deem as winning.

    For years now method has been a buissness an esports buissness that has long been divesting from wow because simply put theres not much money in getting world first in a wow raid compared to the huge pots and sponsorships seen in other games.

    Money is winning in buissness, getting world first were just one small part of methods attraction of sponsors, a declining side of that attraction and a side that shot to shit the reputation of the whole org, method the company is whats important, the company winning in buissness is winning,

    Logic > feelings bud.
    https://www.esportsearnings.com/teams/548-method

    As you can see Method outside of WoW PVP is one big meme, their esport divisions outside of WoW barely won anything. Their influence on twitch in other games outside of WoW was really small. WoW and RWF is what attracted sponsors. You claimed getting world firsts was "small" to attracting sponsors while facts remain that they got some serious sponsorships (MSI, Corsair, Redbull) EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE OF THAT (you can google yourself). Most of Method social media reach was thanks to their networking of WoW streamers. See how Method is doing right now on twitch streaming their world first event now that they are no longer getting them
    https://i.imgur.com/Lm9aITN.png
    But yeah that doesnt show the situation in the full light lets go even further.
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2017
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2018
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2019
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2020 -> keep in mind this includes Nyalotha race
    https://www.wowhead.com/news=287311/...hic-uldir-race Some stats on just Uldir race alone
    It is clear to me that you literally know 0 about esport industry but in order to gain followers you need to perform and Method as organization has been only performing well in World of Warcraft. Now that they were able to get some followings sponsors come in. They are some shittier organization in the world of esports that has never been paid in money, they get paid in product (you can disagree with me as its only method and the sponsors that know the details but its industry standard for networks like them). They give players that advertise for them sponsor's product and Method makes buck by selling you 2$ baseball hats or 5$ tshirts with added Method logo on it for 10 times the price + whatever the fuck they make from their twitch channels. So yes Sco fucking cares about winning in World of Warcraft. Also in case you don't know "Method the esport business organization" (as you called them yourself) already tried to move in to bigboi league in CS and they failed miserably and Method organization is stuck with "niche" stuff like World of Warcraft. Also keep in mind "Method the esport business organization" lost literally everything this year because of their amateur management.

    Who's the idiot now, idiot?
    Infracted

    Edit because I forgot to add: Keep speaking with your feelings about how big Method organization is.
    Edit 2: I would like to add while my post might seem as me hating on Method organization that I have much respect for Sco for what he brought to World of Warcraft community and I wish him best of luck with the rebuild.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2020-12-20 at 11:57 AM.

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    The coach thing is pretty damned clever. My experience in raiding has always been that the one calling out shit will do a better job at it if he/she doesn't have to also play the most complex spec or critical role.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    you realize that europeans dont celebrate christmas in the first place right? thats an american only thing
    Well, that's just the most hilarious example American ignorance about the world that I've ever seen out here.

    What's next? The rest of the world doesn't breathe oxygen like Americans do...?
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  4. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    The coach thing is pretty damned clever. My experience in raiding has always been that the one calling out shit will do a better job at it if he/she doesn't have to also play the most complex spec or critical role.



    Well, that's just the most hilarious example American ignorance about the world that I've ever seen out here.

    What's next? The rest of the world doesn't breathe oxygen like Americans do...?

    Why are you guys freaking out? I was just pointing out that not many Europeans celebrate Christmas in general. Of course some still do, but not very many at all
    ex top 10 us raider i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    Why are you guys freaking out? I was just pointing out that not many Europeans celebrate Christmas in general. Of course some still do, but not very many at all
    wtf where do get that shit? lets see Germany,Austria,Spain,France,Italy are just to name a few where majority of people are celebrating Christmas stop taking whatever u take because it seems its not that good for that leftover Brain of yours

  6. #626
    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    you realize that europeans dont celebrate christmas in the first place right? thats an american only thing
    LOL Here I am thinking that America was settled by Europeans who brought many of their customs with them, Kris Kringl, Saint Nicholas are apparently as American as Easter Sunday... wait

  7. #627
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    Are you fucking kidding? Not relevent?

    Metvod is a company you sperg not just a guild. Money is the most inportant thing and havkng nonce protrctors associated with your brand is always bad for buissness.

    And the to say im not using logic.... fuck me its buissness 101, reputation comes first, how many fuckibg top sportsmen need to be sacked for diddling those they shouldnt, to save a brands rep befor people get that brand reputation comes befor everything.
    I thought this was about the "sponsors aren't relevant people shouldn't play for money but just to win thing", not Method's leadership or whatever for the millionth time. My b.

  8. #628
    Yeez, the way some of y'all talk to each other literally drains my emotional energy.
    Why are some of you people so angry?
    I guess it's like...rooting for your favorite hockey team but like....
    You get nothing from this..you don't even get to pretend like you're playing the game at that level. (Though some of are probably still under that illusion)
    It doesn't require more than an AP level of high school maths and way too much dedication.
    Though it must be entertaining for those who are raking in money from entertaining people and advertising.
    Hopefully they're inspiring and influencing people positively to excel at whatever they decide to do.
    Some of you all seriously need therapy
    Learn a skill, start a hobby, or do something cool to show people who actually give a damn in your life
    I guess this event doesn't come often but...some of y'all are emotional gorillas
    Last edited by CcB; 2020-12-20 at 12:46 AM.

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  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by OCoyne View Post
    Pieces are 8/10.
    We got ourselves a 3 horse race.

    Their Hunter managed to Eagle Eye through all the terrain from the Generals fight area and into Sire's room to have a look at him - 40.7 million HP putting Sludgefist to shame, we got a long way to go.
    Can someone tell me how much health sludgefist has on mythic? kinda ignored it.

  10. #630
    Tuned into Pieces stream a bit ago and they are hosting some dude, didn't look at the name. But he was going over some twitlonger about some dude name "Mitch" (maybe), seems like he stole some gold and was an asshat. I didn't watch much, just curious, all good with Pieces or is this other drama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    Why are you guys freaking out? I was just pointing out that not many Europeans celebrate Christmas in general. Of course some still do, but not very many at all
    Nah man, they don't celebrate. With Christianity begin a vastly dominating religion. Not at all. All those Christmas decorations in houses/shopping centres, carols, gifts, family meetings and meals etc.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2020-12-20 at 12:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    you realize that europeans dont celebrate christmas in the first place right? thats an american only thing
    Most ignorant garbage comment I've read to date.

  13. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by CcB View Post
    Yeez, the way some of y'all talk to each other literally drains my emotional energy.
    Why are some of you people so angry?
    I guess it's like...rooting for your favorite hockey team but like....
    You get nothing from this..you don't even get to pretend like you're playing the game at that level. (Though some of are probably still under that illusion)
    It doesn't require more than an AP level of high school maths and way too much dedication.
    Though it must be entertaining for those who are raking in money from entertaining and hopefully inspiring people to succeed at whatever they do.
    Some of you all seriously need therapy
    Learn a skill, start a hobby, or do something cool to show people who actually give a damn in your life
    I guess this event doesn't come often but...some of y'all are emotional gorillas
    Greatest post in this thread so far +1
    I‘m not surprised, it‘s 2020. Everyone is offended by everything in RL, so why not here on mmo-c too...
    I just jump over the topics to race relevant content.

  14. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    Why are you guys freaking out? I was just pointing out that not many Europeans celebrate Christmas in general. Of course some still do, but not very many at all
    You do some very high level trolling, they are eating this bait up like fish in an aquarium.

    10/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    Why are you guys freaking out? I was just pointing out that not many Europeans celebrate Christmas in general. Of course some still do, but not very many at all
    Which is a blatant lie on your end.

    Be less ignorant, Christmas is huge around the world.

    https://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/

    It's for kids, but hey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CcB View Post
    Yeez, the way some of y'all talk to each other literally drains my emotional energy.
    Why are some of you people so angry?
    I guess it's like...rooting for your favorite hockey team but like....
    You get nothing from this..you don't even get to pretend like you're playing the game at that level. (Though some of are probably still under that illusion)
    It doesn't require more than an AP level of high school maths and way too much dedication.
    Though it must be entertaining for those who are raking in money from entertaining people and advertising.
    Hopefully they're inspiring and influencing people positively to excel at whatever they decide to do.
    Some of you all seriously need therapy
    Learn a skill, start a hobby, or do something cool to show people who actually give a damn in your life
    I guess this event doesn't come often but...some of y'all are emotional gorillas
    Well, that was sufficiently arrogant and screams of projection in its delivery.

    I'd instead question the healthy nature of having one's "emotional energy" drained by strangers having conversations, that nobody's forced to partake in, about a hobby. Yeah, WoW is a hobby. Duh.
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    jesus this fight is painful to watch i can only imagine how bad it is actually doing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdance View Post
    you realize that europeans dont celebrate christmas in the first place right? thats an american only thing
    Cant tell if bad troll or bad education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frolk View Post
    Cant tell if bad troll or bad education.
    Sad either way.

    Anyway, you guys think they are killing the Generals this reset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlightning View Post
    Sad either way.

    Anyway, you guys think they are killing the Generals this reset?
    I think generals will die a few hours before reset and Double Dick Donny will die 4 days into next week.

  20. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by Einsz View Post
    I never denied that. I denied you claiming Sco doesn't give a fuck about WoW and world firsts and you claiming WoW is such a small thing for Method and that they don't need world firsts in WoW.

    You replied to this

    with this


    https://www.esportsearnings.com/teams/548-method

    As you can see Method outside of WoW PVP is one big meme, their esport divisions outside of WoW barely won anything. Their influence on twitch in other games outside of WoW was really small. WoW and RWF is what attracted sponsors. You claimed getting world firsts was "small" to attracting sponsors while facts remain that they got some serious sponsorships (MSI, Corsair, Redbull) EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE OF THAT (you can google yourself). Most of Method social media reach was thanks to their networking of WoW streamers. See how Method is doing right now on twitch streaming their world first event now that they are no longer getting them
    https://i.imgur.com/Lm9aITN.png
    But yeah that doesnt show the situation in the full light lets go even further.
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2017
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2018
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2019
    https://sullygnome.com/channel/sco/2020 -> keep in mind this includes Nyalotha race
    https://www.wowhead.com/news=287311/...hic-uldir-race Some stats on just Uldir race alone
    It is clear to me that you literally know 0 about esport industry but in order to gain followers you need to perform and Method as organization has been only performing well in World of Warcraft. Now that they were able to get some followings sponsors come in. They are some shittier organization in the world of esports that has never been paid in money, they get paid in product (you can disagree with me as its only method and the sponsors that know the details but its industry standard for networks like them). They give players that advertise for them sponsor's product and Method makes buck by selling you 2$ baseball hats or 5$ tshirts with added Method logo on it for 10 times the price + whatever the fuck they make from their twitch channels. So yes Sco fucking cares about winning in World of Warcraft. Also in case you don't know "Method the esport business organization" (as you called them yourself) already tried to move in to bigboi league in CS and they failed miserably and Method organization is stuck with "niche" stuff like World of Warcraft. Also keep in mind "Method the esport business organization" lost literally everything this year because of their amateur management.

    Who's the idiot now, idiot?

    Edit because I forgot to add: Keep speaking with your feelings about how big Method organization is.
    Edit 2: I would like to add while my post might seem as me hating on Method organization that I have much respect for Sco for what he brought to World of Warcraft community and I wish him best of luck with the rebuild.
    You covered it ur self there, the people in echo are the reason method collapsed, but ur too stupid to see it. Method the buissness is whats important, sco is a buissness owner, if you dont get that then you wont get anything. And clearly you dont, and you dont want to, because you have a hard on for method, but bumming then online wont get sco to send you dick pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CcB View Post
    Yeez, the way some of y'all talk to each other literally drains my emotional energy.
    Why are some of you people so angry?
    I guess it's like...rooting for your favorite hockey team but like....
    You get nothing from this..you don't even get to pretend like you're playing the game at that level. (Though some of are probably still under that illusion)
    It doesn't require more than an AP level of high school maths and way too much dedication.
    Though it must be entertaining for those who are raking in money from entertaining people and advertising.
    Hopefully they're inspiring and influencing people positively to excel at whatever they decide to do.
    Some of you all seriously need therapy
    Learn a skill, start a hobby, or do something cool to show people who actually give a damn in your life
    I guess this event doesn't come often but...some of y'all are emotional gorillas
    Its more than that.

    My favorite sports team wasnt harboring and protecting a nonce, and others who support it arnt advocating bringing the people who backed said nonce back to the team just to win titles that ultimatly arnt worth costing the whole buissness for.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2020-12-20 at 12:00 PM.

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