Mandatory Maw - the biggest SL problem now?

[Queendom]

How is Maw mandatory? I don't see any rewards besides socket thingy which costs gazillion of Maw money and is also rep-gated.

[roboscorcher]

How is Maw mandatory? I don't see any rewards besides socket thingy which costs gazillion of Maw money and is also rep-gated.

I think it's mandatory for covenant campaign progression, and "mandatory" for upper Torghast levels. We'll see how true that is when they come out.

That said, I think people need to toughen up and enjoy the Maw for what it is: an open-world zone that is actually dangerous. Dying has consequences. Pay attention to your surroundings, don't overstay your welcome. It's not *that* hard to do.

[Soeroah]

I think it's the biggest problem right now. The tuning is a bit too high, but more importantly the grouping system is completely broken.

It'll get better as we gear and earn the mounts, but IMO the real problem long-term is the anima grind, specifically for alts or if you swap covenants. Renown has a catch-up system, so that's fine, but anima itself currently stands to be just as much of a grind in a year as it is now.

[Edgysan]

>the name
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damn and people reply to this? next time he will complain that he has to push buttons...

[Queendom]

I think it's mandatory for covenant campaign progression, and "mandatory" for upper Torghast levels. We'll see how true that is when they come out.

You mean the renown weekly quest? But it takes like 5 mins to complete, just ride on the dog to the forge, collect 5 souls and TP away. There are always crowded there so you can do this without killing a sigle mob.

[Pendraeg]

they won't do shit because there is nothing hardcore about the maw once you get decent gear you'll oneshot every elite mob there and you can get mounts there from thorgast that work in the maw

Negative. Did you not read the recent conversation with Ion? Mobs are going to scale, not only with Character level, but also ilvl. So is BFA content and Legion content. The Maw is only going to get marginally easier. You're never going to be powerful like before.

[munkeyinorbit]

The biggest problem in SL is shitbag players who leave group after they do or don't get the drop they want (and the tiresome excuses they have for said shitbag behavior). Maw is fine.

No. What's worst is the overt toxicity of some players that expect others to conform to their play style. I applaud players who play the game the way they want to. You have no right to expect people to stay for the whole dungeon because you want them to.

[huth]

No. What's worst is the overt toxicity of some players that expect others to conform to their play style. I applaud players who play the game the way they want to. You have no right to expect people to stay for the whole dungeon because you want them to.

Actually, you do. That's the whole point of doing these things as a group. You help them get what they want, they help you get what you want. If somebody simply leaves the moment it stops being beneficial to them, the rest doesn't have a whole lot of incentive to take that person along in the first place.

You're not defending "playing how you want". You're defending forcing others to play how you want.

[Krakan]

Ah, I get it. So you want players to look at it and pass it off as "not content" because it doesn't give player power. THEN later complain that they're "forced" to do it when they do add power to it in response to people doing it for fun.

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Read the name of the thread in which you are posting, my friend.

I honestly don't know and don't care what drives the average wow player. The forums always have and always will be full of people complaining there is nothing to do with 1k achievement points and half the lfrs done regardless.

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There aren't really any exclusive power rewards tied to the Maw, though, so what are you talking about?

Sockets the ability to upgrade certain conduits otherwise gated to renowned. You know the rewards people have mentioned multiple times now...

[clevin]

Especially those mobs that randomly walk around everywhere that i feel they just put them there to daze you if you alt tab out, which of course, I'll be doing 70% of my time in the maw.

That's not a game problem. That's a you problem.

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I never said it was mandatory. Nothing is mandatory. There are things you can do to improve other areas of your gameplay.

Quick.... what's the title of this thread?

[Krakan]

That's not a game problem. That's a you problem.

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Quick.... what's the title of this thread?

I mean given how many mobs spam cc and how few actually pose a credible threat to the player it feels like it's a game problem.

I've been soloing most elite rares currently at 181 ilv and that is significantly worse then lfr gear. If this is what they think is threatening.. well it ain't this chief....

[Zyky]

I really hope they will do players a solid and:

a. Allow mounts there soon.
b. Make it tri-daily or maybe even weekly cap instead, so I am not forced to do this cancer daily. The shit is not even hard, it's just a massive waste of time.

Starting next week you can push to get the mount from Torghast that'll work in the Maw. The problem is going to invalidate itself for players willing to put in the work.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Maw seems fine to me it’s not hard if you can do basic stuff like stun mobs or move out of things and with the mobs you can kill for the mounts it’s not hard to get around even as a fat slow pally.

[Malania]

That's not a game problem. That's a you problem.

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Quick.... what's the title of this thread?

Something I disagree with and I never made this thread so why are you telling me?

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Ah, I get it. So you want players to look at it and pass it off as "not content" because it doesn't give player power. THEN later complain that they're "forced" to do it when they do add power to it in response to people doing it for fun.

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Read the name of the thread in which you are posting, my friend.

Same as above

[cparle87]

Something I disagree with and I never made this thread so why are you telling me?

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Same as above

We're telling you because you're going off-topic and seem to be intentionally derailing the thread? Maybe?

[DeuZWw]

idk because I bought a videogame to have fun? Going to hell in Diablo was pretty fun.

Don't you worry, that will be fixed with the release of Diablo Immortal.

[Queendom]

idk because I bought a videogame to have fun? Going to hell in Diablo was pretty fun.

If you want to have fun then what are you doing in the Maw?

[huth]

Sockets the ability to upgrade certain conduits otherwise gated to renowned. You know the rewards people have mentioned multiple times now...

Neither of which is Maw exclusive. You can get socketed gear from other sources, and that's just one way to get conduits that isn't exactly terribly efficient either.

[Queen of Hamsters]

... Is it mandatory though?

I've more or less ignored it, only doing dailies and the quests that leads into it. Beyond that, I am just doing Torghast, Callings, farming herbs/ore and that [INSERT VERY COLORFUL LANGUAGE HERE] legendary item that I need...

What exactly will I miss out on by NOT spending all the time possible in the Maw...?

[Theangryone]

My problem with the Maw, and a coupe of other places, is how hard everything hits as I gear up. I enjoy a challenge and don’t expect to faceroll at 171 but when I see that unexpected third or fourth mob roll over I know I’m screwed.