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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    Best superman is the Cavill/Snyder version, and Hoechlin suits a beard much much better.
    u surely mean the worst! Everyone else was a better supes then him....

    Yes the show is surprisingly good for cw standards and I hope it stays that way and continues to have all those easter eggs the pilot had!

  2. #122
    Nope. Cavil is best...he just needs a better script.

  3. #123
    Not that I want to make a big deal about this, but I loved that :

    1. it was hetero normative - how rare is that these days?
    2. it was full of guys - I remember the days when seeing a second black actor was almost unheard of, and then it became seeing more htan 1 central male character became rare, and then having a token white (my issue is not that a show only has 1 white male, or only 1 black male - it's when all the shows copy that formula to score internet points, and they start casting to reflect what they presume we want.

    - it was nice that the twins were two boys - not a boy and a girl, or two girls - and that's not being sexist or anything (I am literally saying I like that it had lots of male characters and that's rare.

    3. The characters weren't loud - no super bossy mum/female character, no super jackass as the main male character - it was refreshing
    4. The mix between drama and action was decent
    5. A new screen angle for superman.. superman family life.

    It didn't feel formulaic.. the current woke formular is ridiculous, because it's not reflective of real life, but every show does it, and this didn't.. this was nice.
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  4. #124
    The episode really exceeded my expectations which were admittedly low, as others I have reservations on the casting choice for Superman, I like the actor, loved him in Teen Wolf, but he doesn't really nail the roll, he is more Clark Kent than superman ironically x)

    I have to say, when it started with the hmm montage? or whatever of the events leading upto where they are I was rather thrilled it was with them having two teenage kids, I have never read any comics nor have any desire too but watched a lot of the cartoon series, and live action shows and movies over the years so them not re-treading the same origin story for the umpteenth time really made me happy.

    And the various nods to the films and to the Smallville series got me smilling, I am a rather cynical guy so its rare for me to enjoy a new series but this has me waiting for more, which after not liking the actors chosen while watching them in the arrowverse crossovers, now feels a lot better as its later on in their respective lives, like my first thought was 'why is lois so 'old' in supergirl' (not that she is like old but you know, mature to say) to which I look back in shame, its a good casting now, in my opinion.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Nope. Cavil is best...he just needs a better script.
    Cavil was the single worst superman in history, you can not blame the script for him being a below subpar actor.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Soimu View Post
    Is this another crappy superman soap/teen drama bullshit like Smallville?
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I mean, it’s CW soooo.... yeah.
    No its not, watch it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Cavil was the single worst superman in history, you can not blame the script for him being a below subpar actor.
    Nope, he was and is good, sorry if you do not like him.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    The episode really exceeded my expectations which were admittedly low, as others I have reservations on the casting choice for Superman, I like the actor, loved him in Teen Wolf, but he doesn't really nail the roll, he is more Clark Kent than superman ironically x)

    I have to say, when it started with the hmm montage? or whatever of the events leading upto where they are I was rather thrilled it was with them having two teenage kids, I have never read any comics nor have any desire too but watched a lot of the cartoon series, and live action shows and movies over the years so them not re-treading the same origin story for the umpteenth time really made me happy.

    And the various nods to the films and to the Smallville series got me smilling, I am a rather cynical guy so its rare for me to enjoy a new series but this has me waiting for more, which after not liking the actors chosen while watching them in the arrowverse crossovers, now feels a lot better as its later on in their respective lives, like my first thought was 'why is lois so 'old' in supergirl' (not that she is like old but you know, mature to say) to which I look back in shame, its a good casting now, in my opinion.
    Might just be that the Superman story is kind of done at this point in every form imaginable hence they want to do a more Clark Kent story with a superman added to it.
    A Clark story would also be cheaper to produce then a Superman story and this would give the creators a bit more flexibility in terms of story compared to the villain of the week format.

    I personally would love to see a healthy mix between Clark Kent the dad trying to teach his kids the journey to becoming Superman while at the same time Superman saving the world.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    The episode really exceeded my expectations which were admittedly low, as others I have reservations on the casting choice for Superman, I like the actor, loved him in Teen Wolf, but he doesn't really nail the roll, he is more Clark Kent than superman ironically x)
    Excellent observations, but this might be the show that actually works in his favour

    And I did laugh at your opening comment, it's true, it exceeded my expectations, and i had very low expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    I have to say, when it started with the hmm montage? or whatever of the events leading upto where they are I was rather thrilled it was with them having two teenage kids, I have never read any comics nor have any desire too but watched a lot of the cartoon series, and live action shows and movies over the years so them not re-treading the same origin story for the umpteenth time really made me happy.

    And the various nods to the films and to the Smallville series got me smilling, I am a rather cynical guy so its rare for me to enjoy a new series but this has me waiting for more, which after not liking the actors chosen while watching them in the arrowverse crossovers, now feels a lot better as its later on in their respective lives, like my first thought was 'why is lois so 'old' in supergirl' (not that she is like old but you know, mature to say) to which I look back in shame, its a good casting now, in my opinion.
    Well said. I felt the same way. I am as cynical as you, but just have a different approach, I don't share my less complimentary thoughts and will watch through the junk, mildly or barely entertained, but because i seem to love that genre of entertainment

  9. #129
    Several of the "Arrowverse" shows have been great at the start, but they all become horrendous by about season 3. I'll give this one a chance, but with 1 hand on the ripcord ready to bail.

  10. #130
    Anyone else thought Lutor looked like a Halo cosplay?

  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Cavil was the single worst superman in history, you can not blame the script for him being a below subpar actor.
    Cavil is an awesome Superman though

  12. #132
    The actor they got for this Superman doesn't have "the look." He rather looks like someone working to change my oil at Jiffy Lube. Sorry not sorry.

  13. #133
    yikes

    I liked the Batman Cameo tho

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Might just be that the Superman story is kind of done at this point in every form imaginable hence they want to do a more Clark Kent story with a superman added to it.
    A Clark story would also be cheaper to produce then a Superman story and this would give the creators a bit more flexibility in terms of story compared to the villain of the week format.

    I personally would love to see a healthy mix between Clark Kent the dad trying to teach his kids the journey to becoming Superman while at the same time Superman saving the world.
    True about superman story being done but it has not stopped them regurgitating it every decade or so, While a bad way to look at it is taht its cheaper to do a dad clark than a superman series we have not seen enough yet and ultimeatly for a tv series you don't really (well i don't) tend to remmeber how amazing the effects where, you remember the story being told and how things played out, so t may not come across as blockbuster materiel but I would oddly say I am enjoying teh appraoch so far, will have to see how the future pans out.

    Like with the issues the super son has, I can already forsee many different story arcs they can take it but truthfully none really appeal to me, like I imagine angst, misconceived betrayal, abuse of power and at some pioint a super villain name and costume or brainwashing etc etc, those are things I am not looking forward to but I expect are likley to happen :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Qstall View Post
    yikes

    I liked the Batman Cameo tho
    Ah I have two screens and was watching it but not full it seems, got the smallville nods and movie nods, think I missed this one though, what was it?

    ---

    I wonder if its possible for his sons to manifest powers that he does not have to an extent.

  15. #135
    Surprisingly, the first episode was really good. The characters are completely different from the crossovers and the story is emotional and mature. Did CW hire some good writers for a change? Anyway, this was just the first episode. They can always mess it up later. But I'll keep watching until they do.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post

    I wonder if its possible for his sons to manifest powers that he does not have to an extent.
    Now that would be interesting, their version shouldn't be as strong as his, but it would nice if they could have some variation

  17. #137
    Not that bad, considering there are two teens in the family (and teens are the worst on all tvshows).
    I liked Louis, and I hope they don't turn her into a total bitch like they do with most females these days. Maybe they actually got decent writers on this show

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by cface View Post
    Not that bad, considering there are two teens in the family (and teens are the worst on all tvshows).
    I liked Louis, and I hope they don't turn her into a total bitch like they do with most females these days. Maybe they actually got decent writers on this show
    They obviously have a long term goal too, these guys are 14, they'd be 18 by season 4, which is mid-range if it goes to 7 or 8 seasons long.

    Which means it can shift focus and gear too. Even spin off if it maintains and improves on its current popularity.

    Actually it will likely greatly improve on popularity if the next few episodes are as good as the first, because many people will be hearing the praises sung and will come to check it out - what hte CW is producing a semi decent super hero show? Let me check it out - and find out, oh, i really like this.

    until they ruin it ofc
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  20. #140
    I watched the first episode and it looks to be a teen drama, but I do hope not.
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