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    Aaaand once again, this proves that vanilla raids weren't mechanically hard. It was all logistics and the natural state of having a new game: guides weren't widespread; people running on dial-up; corralling 40 players was a headache. Over a decade later: content creators have refined guides and distributed them through a myriad of media; internet is stable and reliable; and you have all the social tools you can ever imagine. Tack in 16 years of raid experience and this raid goes down within hours of release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    The only content that provided a real challenge in vanilla and it was still wiped out in hours lol

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    So much for it being legendary lol

    More content wiped out same day it opens...there is no shame about it, 15 year old trivial content doesn't need some kind of extravaganza when it's wam, bam, thank you mam...nothing noteworthy at all
    You missed a huge detail there... it was cleared in hours by a guild who has been practicing for years*.

    Most classic players have not done that... most guilds will NOT clear naxx in one raid night. Making judgements on content based on speedruns is maximum pepega and will always be.

    The only way to make a fair comparison between classic and retail is to compare classic raids with mythic farm raids. Even then its skewed against classic because of years of practice, even retail mythic bosses are farmed by world first guilds within a single night after they have killed them like twice. Which at most is... 2 weeks?

    The power of practice. Still... world first guilds =/= general population. Naxx might be easy for the best guilds but not as easy as you think for everyone else. I bet most people here bashing naxx dont even play classic, if they tried they would probably end up wiping alot and crying to their raidmembers "but its supposed to be easy! the world first guild did it in less than 2 hours!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    The only content that provided a real challenge in vanilla and it was still wiped out in hours lol

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    So much for it being legendary lol

    More content wiped out same day it opens...there is no shame about it, 15 year old trivial content doesn't need some kind of extravaganza when it's wam, bam, thank you mam...nothing noteworthy at all


    Don't forget they had over a decade to practice this raid and its mechanics, they had over a decade to know all of the loot tables for the entire game and know what gear to collect to clear it properly, they all of classic from launch to now to farm and prepare for the "ultimate" raid.

    There will never be another Naxx because the jump in difficulty, length, size/scope will never be replicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otaka View Post
    You missed a huge detail there... it was cleared in hours by a guild who has been practicing for years*.

    Most classic players have not done that... most guilds will NOT clear naxx in one raid night. Making judgements on content based on speedruns is maximum pepega and will always be.

    The only way to make a fair comparison between classic and retail is to compare classic raids with mythic farm raids. Even then its skewed against classic because of years of practice, even retail mythic bosses are farmed by world first guilds within a single night after they have killed them like twice. Which at most is... 2 weeks?

    The power of practice. Still... world first guilds =/= general population. Naxx might be easy for the best guilds but not as easy as you think for everyone else. I bet most people here bashing naxx dont even play classic, if they tried they would probably end up wiping alot and crying to their raidmembers "but its supposed to be easy! the world first guild did it in less than 2 hours!".
    Doesn't really matter....point is trying to act like Naxx is a big deal is a joke. More guilds are going to clear it for sure
    #WithoutRespectWeReject

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otaka View Post
    You missed a huge detail there... it was cleared in hours by a guild who has been practicing for years*.

    Most classic players have not done that... most guilds will NOT clear naxx in one raid night. Making judgements on content based on speedruns is maximum pepega and will always be.

    The only way to make a fair comparison between classic and retail is to compare classic raids with mythic farm raids. Even then its skewed against classic because of years of practice, even retail mythic bosses are farmed by world first guilds within a single night after they have killed them like twice. Which at most is... 2 weeks?

    The power of practice. Still... world first guilds =/= general population. Naxx might be easy for the best guilds but not as easy as you think for everyone else. I bet most people here bashing naxx dont even play classic, if they tried they would probably end up wiping alot and crying to their raidmembers "but its supposed to be easy! the world first guild did it in less than 2 hours!".
    People have stated this when Molten Core and BWL were cleared day 1 also.

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    *"new" content released - and its done*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    Doesn't really matter....point is trying to act like Naxx is a big deal is a joke. More guilds are going to clear it for sure
    Hogwash. Bet you didn't even step into Naxx in Vanilla. Times were different. Teenagers.

    They've had 15 years and tons of modern mods to 'git gud.'

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