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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by itzLCD View Post
    Imagine thinking the player is bad when knowing absolutely nothing about their playstyle, gear or history LUL
    Imagine being so insecure that one just expects a post about them being bad, that they fabricate it themselves without realising the post is saying Blizzard didn’t get 2H frost right after 10 years of it being bad, because of course they didn’t.
    Tyrande was decent in Warcraft III. Why did they decide that she randomly had to become the cringiest villain of Wow?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Nynax View Post
    tbf, a build focused on Obliterate is, by its very nature, single target focused...which will obviously do poorly in a M+ environment. Maybe 2H frost will be a better raid spec?
    Oh I know, I just find that a bit of a shame. I personally don't want to play DW at all, it just feels off for my idea of how a DK works. But playing 2H in M+ will leave my damage way below everyone else.

    Since in Raids I am mainly Tanking I will not get many opportunities to use the 2H build there, so for my damage off-spec in M+ AOE will be a big consideration. Ergo I either play DW Breath or Unholy.

    Now don't get me wrong. Unholy is great and plays better then in BFA, but I really was looking forward to literally Obliterating enemies with my 2H as a Frost DK so I am a bit disappointed that the different builds are so clearly specialised.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by itzLCD View Post
    I feel like Frost DKs are one of the worst specs in the game right now even at 175 ilevel.
    In fact last night I started to level my Ret Paladin and she was already doing more damage at level 50 in greens than my DK LMAO!
    Frost is fine.
    You prorbaly need to learn the spec a bit better.

  4. #24
    No reason to buff frost.

  5. #25
    I tried all 3 specs from DK the last week. Unholy is just buttonsmashing boom rofllol all dead. Im comparison to this.... yeah frost is worse. But it is not bad.
    I play the Venthyr+Breath build if i have the need to play frost and it is actually not bad.
    Not top of the line but certianly not bottom of the barrel... (survival hunter levels^^)

  6. #26
    I'm playing necrolord frost. Murderous efficiency, frozen pulse, remorseless winter, obliteration. Dualwielding. At 175 ilvl, im topping overall damage every run. Ok dmg on packs without any cds, great dmg with cds up. Great ST damage on bosses. Only time I feel weak is if other classes pop their cds on mobs and I dont pop anything and get unlucky with rune procs. If you are looking for an M+ spec, I'd recommend trying this one.

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    I just don't understand why they won't give Frost a glyph to change the appearance of your Dual Wield to that of a 2-handed.

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  9. #29
    Demon Hunters, Warriors and Paladins need help, not DKs...
    My nickname is "LDEV", not "idev". (both font clarification and ez bait)

    yall im smh @ ur simplified english

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    Yeah, I'm not really liking it now either. As a casual at least. Might be the best spec in the world if you wanna get your abilities and timing down, but for beating baddies with your big hammer it's not so great. Hoping it gets fixed.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrel8490 View Post
    Sorry but i would argue it is a player problem. Looking at current sims and from what i can see of my DK guildmates with 181 ilvl and 182 ilvl frost is doing fine. It's not the pack leader but definitly not lacking.

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    That data does not make sense at all. Why using the obliterate rune with using breath of sindragosa and not obliberation? Also, 2x pillar of frost + obliberation does way more dps then 1 x breath of sindragosa every 2min. Also, remoreseless winter does the second best dmg so with the correct rune (+30% extra dmg and rime on 3 targets) the overall dps would be much higher.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessnobody View Post
    nothing today for us
    Yes because it's not needed.

    Frost is fine.

  13. #33
    Frost isn't OP, but it's also not trash...if you think it's trash it's either a l2p issue or you don't have enough crit to get a decent amount of KM procs. The spec will probably be like warrior specs and actually scale well by the end of the expansion(that is how I feel now considering the change to km obliterates being frost damage now so crit and mastery are going to scale for us the entire expansion). I am perfectly okay with that. This is assuming they don't nerf BoS or Icecap becomes a more prominent talent by the end of the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntenoraDK View Post
    Yes because it's not needed.

    Frost is fine.
    i would say they need to adjust the km proc chance. that's about it...and they can use that as a balance point as we get more crit through the expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Demon Hunters, Warriors and Paladins need help, not DKs...
    DH's can honestly fuck off...they had two expansions of being OP, time to deal with being middle at best for a while. That's what happened to DKs after wrath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Oh I know, I just find that a bit of a shame. I personally don't want to play DW at all, it just feels off for my idea of how a DK works. But playing 2H in M+ will leave my damage way below everyone else.

    Since in Raids I am mainly Tanking I will not get many opportunities to use the 2H build there, so for my damage off-spec in M+ AOE will be a big consideration. Ergo I either play DW Breath or Unholy.

    Now don't get me wrong. Unholy is great and plays better then in BFA, but I really was looking forward to literally Obliterating enemies with my 2H as a Frost DK so I am a bit disappointed that the different builds are so clearly specialised.
    Problem with 2H vs DW is one will always have to be superior...and this is why I hate that they caved and brought it back. Frost was at it's best when they made it a one weapon type spec. I can see them eventually neutering DW BoS in favor of 2H and it's basically just a boss spec and does shit damage for trash since we don't have great on demand aoe like some over classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntenoraDK View Post
    There's worse specs in the game than Frost right now.

    Havoc for example.
    considering they had two expansions of being OP, am i supposed to care?

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    Frost MAGE you mean?
    Frost DK is middle of the pack.

    Frost Mage, Havoc, Assasination and the Warrior specs are all about 15 percent behind the top 4 in logs, yet Mage did not see buffs, like the other 3 classes did.

    Frost DK doesn't need any buffs.
    Unholy just needs more nerfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itzLCD View Post
    I feel like Frost DKs are one of the worst specs in the game right now even at 175 ilevel.
    In fact last night I started to level my Ret Paladin and she was already doing more damage at level 50 in greens than my DK LMAO!
    Try a Survival Hunter.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaver View Post
    Havoc is just a joke right now. I wonder if it will turn into the new WW monk that Blizzard just forget about. I’ve started to only play classes with 3 dps specs so I don’t have to deal with Blizzard shitty balancing.
    Well, that would require Blizzard to remember WW, which they don't. But playing a pure DPS class is always the safest way to have a top DPS specs.

  18. #38
    Frost DK was bland in Alpha, especially 2hand. 2handed frost still needs a TON of help to even be competitive at this point. Considering 500dps is enough to make or break most dps specs at this point. They haven't done much of anything to make it any better. I'm guessing it's going to be a situation where it just gets stronger over the life of the expansion as most melee specs do.

    I am really hoping they look at raid logs and see that no one is playing it, and then look at why. It was one of the most requested class/spec features since they took it away. And it is not even remotely playable ( competitively ) at the moment.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Hey There Guys its Metro View Post
    Frost MAGE you mean?
    Frost DK is middle of the pack.

    Frost Mage, Havoc, Assasination and the Warrior specs are all about 15 percent behind the top 4 in logs, yet Mage did not see buffs, like the other 3 classes did.

    Frost DK doesn't need any buffs.
    Unholy just needs more nerfs.
    Middle of the pack, LEL.

    wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1001850.png

    Spec is near bottom. It could use some slight buffs, almost nobody will pick FDK over unholy. But yeah, assa/warr/all DHs (f**k mages, for me they can be at the bottom all the time) are even worse right now.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by itzLCD View Post
    Imagine thinking the player is bad when knowing absolutely nothing about their playstyle, gear or history LUL
    link your armory then pls.

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