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  1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    Beyond basic governance?
    What counts as "basic governance"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    Yes that sums it up it's part of the belief that only wants governments for roads.
    So you want the Department of Transportation, but nothing else? What about regulatory agencies? What about trade? What about new threats? A government incapable of doing more than passing a domestic budget that's identical to last years budget isn't a government at all.

  2. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    What counts as "basic governance"?



    So you want the Department of Transportation, but nothing else? What about regulatory agencies? What about trade? What about new threats? A government incapable of doing more than passing a domestic budget that's identical to last years budget isn't a government at all.
    I mean your asking me to explain another person's belief system. I can explain the general idea but these are questions you need to ask him.

    It isnt one I agree with as I see it as stagnant and prone to simply rotting away but I grasp what hes going for.

  3. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I mean your asking me to explain another person's belief system. I can explain the general idea but these are questions you need to ask him.

    It isnt one I agree with as I see it as stagnant and prone to simply rotting away but I grasp what hes going for.
    If I've learned anything, it's to not bother trying to explain something on someone elses' behalf around here.

    It's a one-way ticket to getting everyone accusing you of believing those things.

  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    If I've learned anything, it's to not bother trying to explain something on someone elses' behalf around here.

    It's a one-way ticket to getting everyone accusing you of believing those things.
    I mean I've been accused of wanting to genocide the poor here for suggesting removing the criminal element out of any community improves it.. You can only be called hitler once then they cap out of insults.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    That doesn't make any logical sense. Wilfire's "ideology" is basically an unwavering defense of the status quo, a standard position used by conservatives across the world.
    Well, in their ideology then, I guess since Humans ever descended out of the trees/exited the caves, it's been all a downfall for humanity since. That's it. I guess it is back to animal skins and arrowhead topped spears for me.

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Well, in their ideology then, I guess since Humans ever descended out of the trees/exited the caves, it's been all a downfall for humanity since. That's it. I guess it is back to animal skins and arrowhead topped spears for me.
    Its painfully obvious what he wants I find it weird how so many people seem tripped up by the concept.

  7. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Well, in their ideology then, I guess since Humans ever descended out of the trees/exited the caves, it's been all a downfall for humanity since. That's it. I guess it is back to animal skins and arrowhead topped spears for me.
    Progress happened despite the geopolitical games of our "leaders", not because of them.

    And the ministries of transport, science and education, healthcare, defense, economics and finance are not the ones trying to swing their huge metaphorical rod around and make sweeping changes to the society. It's always the little big man who gets elected to the high office and his band of sycophants.
    Last edited by Wilfire; 2020-12-15 at 07:58 AM.

  8. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Progress happened despite the geopolitical games of our "leaders", not because of them.

    And the ministries of transport, science and education, healthcare, defense, economics and finance are not the ones trying to swing their huge metaphorical rod around and make sweeping changes to the society. It's always the little big man who gets elected to the high office and his band of sycophants.
    Do yo understand the fucking irony of a Trumpster making that statement?

    Are you simply a parody account?

  9. #489
    I wish people would pay attention to who they're replying to sometimes. Know who is and isn't worth your time. Wilfire is the same guy that made a thread that was basically "Leave Trump aloooone !" Among other things. You're not getting a legit debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Do yo understand the fucking irony of a Trumpster making that statement?

    Are you simply a parody account?
    No, it’s not. It’s the belief that you are right, for no reason other than it’s you... Trump is here to confirm every human flaw can be overcome with enough money. They support a NYC billionaire, with bank account and business all over the world, as the populist fighting globalist elites. For them, working class rising up to be in government, like just about every DNC candidate since... I don’t know... who was the last independently wealthy, trust fund baby, to win the DNC nomination? Al Gore? Is simply abhorrent... the definition of elite...
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  11. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    You are just a troll who adds dick to these forums and make little insignificant jabs at people. You are so insightful, I look forward to your next post that barely counts as a sentence, but still manages to insult someone, because you are a cool guy.
    Again, if I were looking to be insightful, I would actually do that. Instead, I like to point out every so often how people are wasting their time with certain people. People that have cultivated certain reputations. Can't have any new visitors believing the nonsense certain people say, can we?

    Amusing you'd say "barely counts as a sentence" when, more often than not, your posts are a mess of missing/misspelled words, not to mention often wildly inaccurate. The irony of complaining about "insignificant jabs" when you just tried to do the same exact thing

    What does being "a cool guy" have to do with anything? Is this like you trying to call something "edgy" again? Are you out of your teens yet? Good grief.

    Are we done now? This is boring.

  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Do yo understand the fucking irony of a Trumpster making that statement?

    Are you simply a parody account?
    It's like when they came up with the NPC meme. You rarely see that kind of self-ownage.
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    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

  13. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    It's like when they came up with the NPC meme. You rarely see that kind of self-ownage.
    You'd think at least one of them would have had the self-awareness to realise what a self-own that was. But nope. Even when you point it out, they doubled down on it lol

  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    It's like when they came up with the NPC meme. You rarely see that kind of self-ownage.
    "I'm doing it ironically."

    "Um, no you're not. You're just to damn stupid to realize you're in a cult."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    It's like when they came up with the NPC meme. You rarely see that kind of self-ownage.
    Let’s all change our avatars to NPCs to show libs who the real free thinkers are!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Progress happened despite the geopolitical games of our "leaders", not because of them.
    It’s not like the might of US is founded on circumstances from a “geopolitical” event, more than 100 years ago. I’m not sure if this is biting the hand that feeds or cutting off your nose, to spite your face. We won’t know the full extent to which Trump has damaged that advantage for a couple of years.

    And the ministries of transport, science and education, healthcare, defense, economics and finance are not the ones trying to swing their huge metaphorical rod around and make sweeping changes to the society. It's always the little big man who gets elected to the high office and his band of sycophants.
    What was Trump’s response after the veto, of a bipartisan bill, denying Trump the war powers act against Iran? If that’s not ‘little big man’, we have different definitions of the term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I wish people would pay attention to who they're replying to sometimes. Know who is and isn't worth your time. Wilfire is the same guy that made a thread that was basically "Leave Trump aloooone !" Among other things. You're not getting a legit debate.
    Dude, one of the most amusing thing about how this place in the last few years was the epic flame out most of the anti-SJW crew went through. They were riding so high around 2017 and 2018, but I'm guessing that being an anti-social dick didn't net them much but chasing the caustic rabbit down the hole until they just got really disconnected from the immersion. I mean, everything Wilfire has said in this thread, and everything you linked, is profoundly fucking weird. I may get a warning for saying that, but good god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenGoldSharpie View Post
    Dude, one of the most amusing thing about how this place in the last few years was the epic flame out most of the anti-SJW crew went through. They were riding so high around 2017 and 2018, but I'm guessing that being an anti-social dick didn't net them much but chasing the caustic rabbit down the hole until they just got really disconnected from the immersion. I mean, everything Wilfire has said in this thread, and everything you linked, is profoundly fucking weird. I may get a warning for saying that, but good god.
    Yeah, we can’t really choose which Trump supporter to argue with, with the mass exodus. The dude in @Machismo signature? Check his current name... I guess he couldn’t figure out how GDPR works... we lost a lot of them, due to over exuberant celebrations, after Trump’s win. Then there was the EU privacy changes, which nuked a lot of “real Americans”. The purge approached its climax in 2018, when a caravan turned into a blue wave. Caravan, which is a name for a wonderful song I would link, but I got infracted for doing it by a mod with no name. Said mod leaving his post, was the final nail in the exodus... there wasn’t much left... but, that was the final nail...

    Right now, your best bet to argue with a genuine Trump supporter on this forum, is the gun control thread. There are pictures of Karl Marx supporting guns and everything... this sub-forum sees so few, it is like fresh meat and we are all piranhas. If I am ever desperate for attention, am going all in on Trump... lol
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  18. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenGoldSharpie View Post
    Dude, one of the most amusing thing about how this place in the last few years was the epic flame out most of the anti-SJW crew went through. They were riding so high around 2017 and 2018, but I'm guessing that being an anti-social dick didn't net them much but chasing the caustic rabbit down the hole until they just got really disconnected from the immersion. I mean, everything Wilfire has said in this thread, and everything you linked, is profoundly fucking weird. I may get a warning for saying that, but good god.
    If you get a warning for any of that, I'd be surprised. Especially when the mod that didn't like truth is long gone at this point.

    Same old story, really. Even Republicans in power are doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, we can’t really choose which Trump supporter to argue with
    The fact you recognise that any attempt to converse with a Trump supporter is generally an argument, while in the "Two Americas Divided Over Democracy" thread, just shows the division between the two sides, I reckon. And it is a division of their own making, because they chose to follow the man that exacerbated every negative in the US that fed that division.

  19. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, we can’t really choose which Trump supporter to argue with, with the mass exodus. The dude in @Machismo signature? Check his current name... I guess he couldn’t figure out how GDPR works... we lost a lot of them, due to over exuberant celebrations, after Trump’s win. Then there was the EU privacy changes, which nuked a lot of “real Americans”. The purge approached its climax in 2018, when a caravan turned into a blue wave. Caravan, which is a name for a wonderful song I would link, but I got infracted for doing it by a mod with no name. Said mod leaving his post, was the final nail in the exodus... there wasn’t much left... but, that was the final nail...

    Right now, your best bet to argue with a genuine Trump supporter on this forum, is the gun control thread. There are pictures of Karl Marx supporting guns and everything... this sub-forum sees so few, it is like fresh meat and we are all piranhas. If I am ever desperate for attention, am going all in on Trump... lol
    I think that's one of the more hilarious parts of these forums. Literally, almost every single one of the "proud American patriots" had never stepped foot in America.

    It's probably a big sign that you are a shitty person, when your strongest supporters are Nazis and Eastern European trolls.

    On that note, I don't think Skroe is going to get the money that Knadra owes him.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2020-12-15 at 01:55 PM.

  20. #500
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, we can’t really choose which Trump supporter to argue with, with the mass exodus. The dude in @Machismo signature? Check his current name... I guess he couldn’t figure out how GDPR works... we lost a lot of them, due to over exuberant celebrations, after Trump’s win. Then there was the EU privacy changes, which nuked a lot of “real Americans”. The purge approached its climax in 2018, when a caravan turned into a blue wave. Caravan, which is a name for a wonderful song I would link, but I got infracted for doing it by a mod with no name. Said mod leaving his post, was the final nail in the exodus... there wasn’t much left... but, that was the final nail...

    Right now, your best bet to argue with a genuine Trump supporter on this forum, is the gun control thread. There are pictures of Karl Marx supporting guns and everything... this sub-forum sees so few, it is like fresh meat and we are all piranhas. If I am ever desperate for attention, am going all in on Trump... lol
    I thought the peak was end of 2019? What a Christmas! When their chief enforcer was defrocked. Also, outting themselves on various KKK threads. What kind of person goes to the mat for Bedford Forrest?

    All that is left, are the ones trying to rebrand themselves "progressives". With the weird logic of; the only path to M4A is schreeching at Dems, and pretending the GOP has no veto power. But without Tulsi and others to hide behind. It becomes their latest "Lost Cause".


    Ya, "Real Americans" is another funny bit. Also in 2016, how many of them were "moving back to Britain" if Hillary won. They even copypasta their personas.

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