Why did All Streamers and Testers say Torghast is Amazing

[Sesethi]

Love it on my paly, hate it on my mage.

[Daevied]

It took me 2 hours to complete layer 6 with my mage couse the underwhelming power options, so from this week onwards ill only do this in a group and just once

[Dizzyswiftz]

I will say that having anima powers that "Buff" my Kyrian Potion is downright a bad choice, and lazy on blizzard's part. I'm not sure how buffing a potion, is going to help my DPS or having me run faster but ONLY when my steward is out, which is on a 5m CD. Its just not creative, and most of the time they're Blue or Purple power ups and they're just garbage.

[lockybalboa]

Where is the because they got paid option?

[Guidance]

had changes, but I believe that the main reason is that it was optional, people used to praise things they do of their own will, they went with the intention of testing
and today they wanted to focus on other things, and are forced to do 2-3 runs a week to do the legendary, while they wanted to focus on picking gear or anything else

I just don't understand, why people think they need to like everything, I see a part saying that they like and another part saying that they don't like, it's nice to have several options, and it's not like you need to do an absurd amount of times

It's okay, you don't have to like everything, and it won't get in your way

I don't like battle pets, but I see a lot of people having fun with it, and it makes me happy, that's enough

[Sunslayer]

I just don't understand, why people think they need to like everything

Thats just silly. This isnt our job. Its a video game and video games are suppose to be fun. Torghast is not fun. Blizzard did a really poor job implementing it.
Torghast wasnt "fun" because Beta testers werent forced to do it. It was fun on beta because it was actually fun. Blizzard released a totally different version and the one they released is not fun.
In fact for some specs or classes it is downright awful content.

[Zyrinx]

I'm a pretty big casual and I'm Ilvl 188. Gear is really easy to get. Look into getting PvP gear and upgrading it.

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You can find some companions for the mission table in Torghast. Meatball from past expansions can be found there.

Oh yeah, PVP as a casual gear path always turns out great.

[Sondrelk]

Thats probably the very worst part of Torghast for me. It feels like it shouldve had mounts, pets, Xmogs and toys that drop. The way its set up is just awful.

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Can you get Soul ash from Twisted corridors or do we have to run both? God, I hope we dont have to do 2 Towers...

Twisting Corridors is just for cosmetics. Ion recently compared it to the one and done deal you had for the mage tower challenge in Legion, and the difficulty is supposedly far far higher than the other wings.

If you just want soul ash then you can skip it.

[kaminaris]

From what i know they USED to have fun op powers in alpha buuut as usual fun detected must nerf happened

Yep, i've been lookin at some alpha footage and some had crazy and good powers, now I just don't see it anywhere. My class has literally zero good/fun powers.

[neocount]

You needed a fourth option in your poll:

It was fun the first couple of times

[CarlingBlackLabel]

Because it is. In my opinion, of course.

[Sarevokcz]

Bunch of powers in Binding of Isaac is just straight up useless.

Bunch of weapons in Dead Cells are useless and never used.

Bunch of cards are useless in Monster Train and Slay the Spire.

Bunch of weapons are useless in Dungreed.

Bunch of weapons are useless in Risk of Rain 2.

Hades is not the only roguelite on the market that you can compare Torghast to. I've played so many that I could keep on counting and naming them for next 2 hours.

and there is a good reason why most people not playing specifically this genre haven't heard of any of those outside of Binding of Isaac and maybe Slay the Spire...
For a roguelite mode in WoW, you shouldn't try to get inspired by the frustrating parts of the genre but build up on the exciting parts. Despite me liking Torghast enough, it is missing the exciting factor most of the time and doesn't have nearly the same replayability IMO.

[ashblond]

You needed a fourth option in your poll:

It was fun the first couple of times

Yea. But i think that will make the poll too complicated.

If you thought it was fun and now only do it because of ash, you are just OK with it.

[Fartoo]

and there is a good reason why most people not playing specifically this genre haven't heard of any of those outside of Binding of Isaac and maybe Slay the Spire...
For a roguelite mode in WoW, you shouldn't try to get inspired by the frustrating parts of the genre but build up on the exciting parts. Despite me liking Torghast enough, it is missing the exciting factor most of the time and doesn't have nearly the same replayability IMO.

That I do agree on, it is replayable, but just not as much. Needs some more, how do I word it, chaos.

Best runs in roguelites are when you're just insanely op as fuck and stomping everything with some insane combos. I play balance, and the runs that are most fun are the ones where I can just run around, spam moonfires and huge full moons are dropping on deathsworn heads. Would be cool if there were 20 more powers like that, that change your playstyle in a significant way.

It is first tier so there's still a lot of time, I have really high hopes for Torghast because it definitely has potential.

[Sorrior]

That I do agree on, it is replayable, but just not as much. Needs some more, how do I word it, chaos.

Best runs in roguelites are when you're just insanely op as fuck and stomping everything with some insane combos. I play balance, and the runs that are most fun are the ones where I can just run around, spam moonfires and huge full moons are dropping on deathsworn heads. Would be cool if there were 20 more powers like that, that change your playstyle in a significant way.

It is first tier so there's still a lot of time, I have really high hopes for Torghast because it definitely has potential.

Sad thing is it seems torghast bets WAS like that..but they just kept merfing it

[Beuargh]

Yes, if you get op powers you stomp it, if you don't you actually have to think and have a hard time.

That is the exact point of a roguelite game, which I'm guessing you've never played, and Torghast is actually a roguelite within WoW.

So you're complaining for nothing because it is exactly as it should be.
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or for some specs, if you don't get the right power, you can't kill the end boss at all.....

yes, I never played roguelite games, for a good reason: I'm not interrested. I play an MMORPG. Now one of the biggest upgrade of the MMO (lego) is linked to a fucken half assed roguelite where I have to spend next to an hour of my playing session for one wing, and I just lost my time if I fail.

If you don't see something wrong here, then I really don't know what to tell you.....

what's next? a car race game within WoW to get legos? a tetris game? what do you like?

actually, the "racing" world quest of SL takes less than 5 minutes even with a couple fails and it's more rewarding (well, there IS a reward) than an hour long failed run in torghast.... "exactly as it should be" ???

[Molov]

too bad the poll is going to be completely ruined with the recent changes in Thorgast, a lot of people will be changing their mind

[Dispirit84]

so...

uhh...

Four new zones with only leveling story available and nothing past 60 except M+ Raid and Pee Vee Pee?

They can get rid of mythic dungeons too while they're at it.

[Skylarking]

I don't like it, at all. If soul ash or whatever other important currency/item wasn't there I would never go back to it. It's tedious as all fucking hell.

[Gratz]

I'm still waiting on that list.