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    Exclamation (Unholy) 15% Mastery Nerf

    O-U-C-H!


    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    Unholy

    [With regional restarts] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.


    I mean, I agree that Unholy needed something to tuned down.


    But I also feel that is a very steep nerf especially since the Mastery changed in Shadowlands. Will this mean we will see Haste and Versatility move up on the stat priority?


    Will the Eternal Hunger:


    (Dark Transformation's duration is increased by 3 sec and your Minion damage is increased by 3.0%)


    Potency Conduit become even more important to get?


    Overall I believe Unholy will be fine and still be "upper tier" DPS in raids and M+ but... 15%... jeeeeeeeeeeeze.

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    i am also dissapointed.
    I 3d print stuff

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    Not suprised at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Not suprised at all.

    I wasn't a surprised we got a nerf either; just surprised what the actual nerf ended up being. I was banking on a 5% damage reduction across the board or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALAMITY View Post
    I wasn't a surprised we got a nerf either; just surprised what the actual nerf ended up being. I was banking on a 5% damage reduction across the board or something.
    You do know the nerf was smaller than 5%, right?

    Let me clarify.
    [With regional restarts] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.

    Your mastery wasn't nerfed by 15%, it was nerfed by 15% in effectiveness. You lost like 3% overall damage after this nerf, i'm sure the DK's rocking it at the top will survive this

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    It's only a total of a 3-5% nerf overall.

    Considering we're currently about 15% ahead of #2 ... that isn't much of a nerf at all.
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    frost dk here: OH, it's your first time ? xD

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    Hey op, you left it the part where like 10 of your abilities had they're DMG BUFFed by 10-15% as well, making the effective nerf way smaller (if it even nets out to a nerf).

    Point is, even with the whole list of their tuning, your still likely to be far ahead.

    This is also likely the only tuning pass they're doing this tier, so enjoy being the form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    Hey op, you left it the part where like 10 of your abilities had they're DMG BUFFed by 10-15% as well, making the effective nerf way smaller (if it even nets out to a nerf).

    Point is, even with the whole list of their tuning, your still likely to be far ahead.

    This is also likely the only tuning pass they're doing this tier, so enjoy being the form.
    You realize that the buffs were all for blood and not for unholy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydandk View Post
    You realize that the buffs were all for blood and not for unholy?
    Well, he probably is someone that has no clue about dk at all, as the buffs were listed under the unholy-tag. You only know that this is actually a buff for blood if you know dk basics.

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    I'd honestly just be happy it isn't more. It's clear to anybody with a brain that unholy is super strong right now, and they actually made our mastery scale with almost all of our damage this expansion, as opposed to historically 40-50%.

    We could be demon hunters who got a 5% damage buff to the 0% damage that they do at the moment.

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    I could see it coming, but still surprised they left hunters untouched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    Hey op, you left it the part where like 10 of your abilities had they're DMG BUFFed by 10-15% as well, making the effective nerf way smaller (if it even nets out to a nerf).

    Point is, even with the whole list of their tuning, your still likely to be far ahead.

    This is also likely the only tuning pass they're doing this tier, so enjoy being the form.
    Those "buffs" are BLOOD DK abilities.

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    Not really surprised, I feel UH has been really strong and a sim of my Character the other week put Mastery at almost double the value of anything else. This might allow other stats to be a bit more desirable rather than Mastery being everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtydandk View Post
    You realize that the buffs were all for blood and not for unholy?


    Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
    Unholy
    [With regional restarts] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Blood Boil damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Heart Strike damage increased by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Marrowrend damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Death Strike damage increased by 5%.

    MMO c seems to state specifically unholy...

    Quote Originally Posted by AntenoraDK View Post
    Those "buffs" are BLOOD DK abilities.
    Again... not accd to MMO-C's front page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
    Unholy
    [With regional restarts] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Blood Boil damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Heart Strike damage increased by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Marrowrend damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Death Strike damage increased by 5%.

    MMO c seems to state specifically unholy...


    Again... not accd to MMO-C's front page.
    It's just a typo/missing flavor text. Those are not unholy abilities. Stop trying to stir a pot that doesn't exist.

    They are blood abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBoo View Post
    Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
    Unholy
    [With regional restarts] Mastery: Dreadblade effectiveness reduced by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Blood Boil damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Heart Strike damage increased by 15%.
    [With regional restarts] Marrowrend damage increased by 10%.
    [With regional restarts] Death Strike damage increased by 5%.

    MMO c seems to state specifically unholy...


    Again... not accd to MMO-C's front page.
    You do realize that Marrowrend, Heart Strike, and Blood Boil are all blood abilities right? Like Unholy doesn't even have them in their spell book. All that is simply an error in MMO Champion's post. The only Unholy change so far will be that mastery nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrys13 View Post
    It's just a typo/missing flavor text. Those are not unholy abilities. Stop trying to stir a pot that doesn't exist.

    They are blood abilities.
    I apologize. However, I'm not a DK player, so when both MMOC and WoW's own website list something as a change under a spec, you can see where I might get confused...

    Either way, I doubt the nerf will change much. UHDK's upper quartile is 3900 vs ret's 3300. That's almost a quarter difference in DPS and ret didn't get touched at all.

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    Still be alright even after the nerfs. They needed to happen.
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    Everyone knew it was coming, so no surprises here, DK ain't exactly fire mages or warlocks who are allowed to stay broken for a patch or three. The first attempt is also rather mild.

    Personally I still hope we will see some buffs to underrepresented covenant abilities though, just enough to allow other classes to chose. DK has been one of the more lucky ones in that regard.
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