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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawon View Post
    Grounding Breath got a 1 min internal CD so you only get one proc per trashpack usually. So I really dont get how you can sustain 12-14k hps while not going oom.
    Be geared.
    1506 Intel
    1217 Versatility (30.38%)
    546 Crit (20.60%)
    249 Haste (7.55%)
    0 Mastery (33.60%)
    Last edited by TRCKSTVR; 2021-02-07 at 05:53 PM.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by TRCKSTVR View Post
    Be geared.
    1506 Intel
    1217 Versatility (30.38%)
    546 Crit (20.60%)
    249 Haste (7.55%)
    0 Mastery (33.60%)
    Granted I've had bad luck in loot so only 205 in ilev but not that far behind your stats. Still impressed about that 12+ sustain without going oom.

  3. #43
    I have 20 more ilvl, currently i am 225. Spells are so overpowered, doesn't need to cast that much as 205 ilvl. Mana pot is around 35k mana during a 12/13 keys, and same for Grounding Breath. The most i've seen w/ Grounding is 42k refound on an entire mythic dungeon.

  4. #44
    There is some talk about how MW will see a major rework and buffs in 9.1, so I guess we will have to wait and see until then.

    I am of course frustrated as any other MW player right now, however I do understand it that tuning MW NOW is just too late and makes no sense. Blizzard can only really allow themselves very early into a patch/expansion to tune a class and later on this becomes difficult, as players are are progressing through high end keys, raids and arena(!!).
    Imagine people are pushing towards gladiator and then suddenly the meta changes, that would be extremely frustrating. Especially during MDI and AWC you can't really change the meta as it would really ruin the fun for everyone else.

    I know it sucks for us right now, but that's how it is. If they don't however fix monks by 9.1 then I'll be legit pissed and change mains.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    There is some talk about how MW will see a major rework and buffs in 9.1, so I guess we will have to wait and see until then.

    I am of course frustrated as any other MW player right now, however I do understand it that tuning MW NOW is just too late and makes no sense. Blizzard can only really allow themselves very early into a patch/expansion to tune a class and later on this becomes difficult, as players are are progressing through high end keys, raids and arena(!!).
    Imagine people are pushing towards gladiator and then suddenly the meta changes, that would be extremely frustrating. Especially during MDI and AWC you can't really change the meta as it would really ruin the fun for everyone else.

    I know it sucks for us right now, but that's how it is. If they don't however fix monks by 9.1 then I'll be legit pissed and change mains.
    You can do PVE changes without impacting PVP since Warlords of Draenor.
    The problem is MDI, I don't even know why Blizzard is running an official cup on public realm, they need to push a private realm and separate build with character copy like it is with PTR, and then run MDI in, so they can change public build without changing MDI tuning. They do that for the Overwatch League for exemple, if theres an update in live, the League isn't impacted until the next season.

    But you're right, if there are any changes to be made to the mistweaver, it won't be for today or tomorrow. We don't really know if there will be any.

    The Mistweaver is not catastrophic or unplayable either, the biggest problem he encounters is the pro-meta mentality of morons who refuse you in M ​​+ or RBG because you are not a druid, shaman, or dp. Even with 10+ ilvl then others.

    But we must not let go, with the right peoples we can progress at our pace, there is currently no reason to switch to another class (and even less Windwalker)

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by TRCKSTVR View Post
    You can do PVE changes without impacting PVP since Warlords of Draenor.
    The problem is MDI, I don't even know why Blizzard is running an official cup on public realm, they need to push a private realm and separate build with character copy like it is with PTR, and then run MDI in, so they can change public build without changing MDI tuning. They do that for the Overwatch League for exemple, if theres an update in live, the League isn't impacted until the next season.

    But you're right, if there are any changes to be made to the mistweaver, it won't be for today or tomorrow. We don't really know if there will be any.

    The Mistweaver is not catastrophic or unplayable either, the biggest problem he encounters is the pro-meta mentality of morons who refuse you in M ​​+ or RBG because you are not a druid, shaman, or dp. Even with 10+ ilvl then others.

    But we must not let go, with the right peoples we can progress at our pace, there is currently no reason to switch to another class (and even less Windwalker)
    TBH as far as RBG/arena goes it would be enough if they'd just buff our mana, armor and let us use fort. brew while stunned (as many other classes can use their defensives like that, for example Barkskin... this would at least prevent us from being easy targets for rogues). Other than that we just don't have much to offer besides cocoon, but overall I'd say that would be enough for us to be competitive and become a solid non-regretttable choice. MW can be otherwise quite amazing at burst healing (if it weren't for that quick mana drain) and we can be the best FC healers and best healers that could quickly switch between flags on ressource maps.

    I unfortunately had to give up my MW spot in my RBG team and switched to WW instead as we've progressed higher in ranking, but hopefully they'll go ahead with the buffs I am suggesting and according to Cdew (I believe) we might see some big buffs coming eventually.

  7. #47
    I just wish monks would be that great they were in mop. Fun to play, strong and some broken mechanics, like the brews that free you from cc, cocoon & fort brew useable in stuns, manatea mechanic etc... I miss that all <'3

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    TBH as far as RBG/arena goes it would be enough if they'd just buff our mana, armor and let us use fort. brew while stunned (as many other classes can use their defensives like that, for example Barkskin... this would at least prevent us from being easy targets for rogues). Other than that we just don't have much to offer besides cocoon, but overall I'd say that would be enough for us to be competitive and become a solid non-regretttable choice. MW can be otherwise quite amazing at burst healing (if it weren't for that quick mana drain) and we can be the best FC healers and best healers that could quickly switch between flags on ressource maps.

    I unfortunately had to give up my MW spot in my RBG team and switched to WW instead as we've progressed higher in ranking, but hopefully they'll go ahead with the buffs I am suggesting and according to Cdew (I believe) we might see some big buffs coming eventually.

    Theresn't mana problem in Arena, i'm playing at 2100 as MW and mana is fine, the problem here is the toolkit whois absolutly useless. Cocoon can be bursted in secs, Revival is the most useless raid-wide heal (especially when there is 1+ affli in opposite team), we have WFT whois personnal but MEHHH you have to be alive for it.

    I'm keep pushing all content as MW because it's not unplayable, but.

  9. #49
    Anyone else find it hilarious that the pvp team decided to buff MW regeneration while the PVE people are just sitting there still saying, "This is fine"... lolol

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrod View Post
    Anyone else find it hilarious that the pvp team decided to buff MW regeneration while the PVE people are just sitting there still saying, "This is fine"... lolol
    They buff the mana regeneration where isn't needed to buff it

    The takeaway from his buffs is that they think (a little bit) of mistweaver, and that's a good sign.
    Even though next week they'll probably rollback the buffs.
    Last edited by TRCKSTVR; 2021-02-09 at 05:58 AM.

  11. #51
    our prayers have been answered, renewing mist is going from 2.2% to 2.1%. watch out everyone is gonna re roll MW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalut27 View Post
    our prayers have been answered, renewing mist is going from 2.2% to 2.1%. watch out everyone is gonna re roll MW
    We will never go ooom again.

  13. #53
    0.1% mana cost decrease

    okay the devs are just taunting us now

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    0.1% mana cost decrease

    okay the devs are just taunting us now
    The previous cost was 2.2% and will be 2.1%. That's a mana cost reduction of ~4.5%

    Vivify previous cost was 4.1% and will be 3.8%. That's a mana cost reduction of ~7.3%

    This doesn't "fix" MW because their biggest issue wasn't just the mana costs but this is a big change to the mana cost issues.

  15. #55
    I wish they'd cut the cost of Enveloping Mist as well, that's one of our biggest mana suckers.

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