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    And what have you done for the working class lately? You gonna blame crimes on centrist politicians instead of the right wing again?
    Neo-liberalism is right-wing idealogy, so I have no idea what your on about.
    And I think supporting pro-working class parties does more than shitting on the poor like OP does, yes.



    Kinda funny how not being a capitalist makes you a "troll" now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Neo-liberalism is right-wing idealogy, so I have no idea what your on about.
    And I think supporting pro-working class parties does more than shitting on the poor like OP does, yes.



    Kinda funny how not being a capitalist makes you a "troll" now.
    I’m not a capitalist. I’m your Friendly Neighbourhood Socialist Small Business Owner.

    I’m saying you’re a troll though. Loudly beating your chest about how anti-capitalist you are doesn’t make you anti-capitalist. Actually providing criticizing the real shit heads of the world might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I’m not a capitalist. I’m your Friendly Neighbourhood Socialist Small Business Owner.

    I’m saying you’re a troll though. Loudly beating your chest about how anti-capitalist you are doesn’t make you anti-capitalist. Actually providing criticizing the real shit heads of the world might.
    I've already done that plenty, no idea what your on about. And yes, all capitalist leaders are shitheads, what was your point again? I really have no idea what that has to with thread, your going wildly off-topic.



    I kinda like your joke about saying you're a socialist though, you got that going atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    I've already done that plenty, no idea what your on about. And yes, all capitalist leaders are shitheads, what was your point again? I really have no idea what that has to with thread, your going wildly off-topic.



    I kinda like your joke about saying you're a socialist though, you got that going atleast.
    That you don’t actually provide any real criticism. Just socialist cosplaying and shitty “both sides are the same” arguments. That’s usually the mark of someone who’s ashamed of what their team is actually doing.

    I did in fact take the means of production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    That you don’t actually provide any real criticism. Just socialist cosplaying and shitty “both sides are the same” arguments. That’s usually the mark of someone who’s ashamed of what their team is actually doing.

    I did in fact take the means of production.
    Just wondering, but do your employees have ownership in your business (making it their business and not yours, really) and share in the profits equally?
    Shut your goddamn mouth, Gene!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceboytg View Post
    Just wondering, but do your employees have ownership in your business (making it their business and not yours, really) and share in the profits equally?
    Yes. But I’m the only employee and I’m not really very money minded and so there’s not much profit to be shared equally. I just bought out the place I used to be an employee at and just continued doing what I was doing.

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    And threads like this are why Republicans keep winning.

    The Left needs to find some fucking common ground...rather than just rip into each other all the damn time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Yes. But I’m the only employee and I’m not really very money minded and so there’s not much profit to be shared equally. I just bought out the place I used to be an employee at and just continued doing what I was doing.
    Ah, well as the only employee then it's as socialist as can be since the workers are being rewarded equitably for their labor and direct the business
    Shut your goddamn mouth, Gene!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Neo-liberalism is right-wing idealogy, so I have no idea what your on about.
    In the same since that TERFs are right wing ideology...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    In the same since that TERFs are right wing ideology...
    Wait till you see where TERFs ended up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    That you don’t actually provide any real criticism. Just socialist cosplaying and shitty “both sides are the same” arguments. That’s usually the mark of someone who’s ashamed of what their team is actually doing.

    I did in fact take the means of production.
    Just becease you have no counter-arguments does not mean its not critism. Ashamed of my 'team', can you even tell what my supposed team is?

    And you know socialism is not about just making money of your own products, right? Or did you forget this is politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    And threads like this are why Republicans keep winning.

    The Left needs to find some fucking common ground...rather than just rip into each other all the damn time.
    Liberals have more in common with conservatives, they are not left-wing.


    Just look at OP and his disdain of the working class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Just becease you have no counter-arguments does not mean its not critism. Ashamed of my 'team', can you even tell what my supposed team is?

    And you know socialism is not about just making money of your own products, right? Or did you forget this is politics?
    Your team is the one that smears Biden with bogus sexual assault claims while ignoring Trump's numerous actual sexual assault claims. Remember that?

    It seems whenever there's a thread about actual right wing corruption you're nowhere to be found. The OP might have a lot of contempt for your "position" but actually posts interesting shit sometimes. Which is more than I can say about you.

    Also you should really change your sig. The election has passed and 58 million working class Americans stood up and proved that they are in fact your racist uncle and jerk co-workers.

    Managing my tiny corner of the world is more than what you've done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    Wait till you see where TERFs ended up lol
    That’s the point...



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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Just look at OP and his disdain of the working class.
    To point something out... This is all the OP contains about working class:

    Also why are podcaster given so much clout? Does earning tens of thousands a month on a podcast and online outrage make you Working Class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Your team is the one that smears Biden with bogus sexual assault claims while ignoring Trump's numerous actual sexual assault claims. Remember that?
    I never did either, Biden's are not bogus and maybe you should check back around 4 to 5 years on this forum for Trumps.

    It seems whenever there's a thread about actual right wing corruption you're nowhere to be found. The OP might have a lot of contempt for your "position" but actually posts interesting shit sometimes. Which is more than I can say about you
    Not my problem your not looking hard enough, and Biden is right wing, by the way.

    Also you should really change your sig. The election has passed and 58 million working class Americans stood up and proved that they are in fact your racist uncle and jerk co-workers.
    So only half of them? Well, good to see your just as terrible on this as the OP is, some socialist you claim to be while hating the working class. Shitting on the poor really shows how much you actually care about poverty.


    Managing my tiny corner of the world is more than what you've done.
    While shitting on the working class, do you even know what kind of political idealogy socialism is? You do good for yourself..? good for you? Why would I care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    I never did either, Biden's are not bogus and maybe you should check back around 4 to 5 years on this forum for Trumps.
    Yeah you did. You had to be shamed into changing your sig which you meekly did until you found another thing to handwave. Like racism. Speaking of which...

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Not my problem your not looking hard enough, and Biden is right wing, by the way.

    So only half of them? Well, good to see your just as terrible on this as the OP is, some socialist you claim to be while hating the working class. Shitting on the poor really shows how much you actually care about poverty.
    I care about poverty enough to vote for the correct people. You don't care about poverty because you're perfectly willing to ignore problems like racism which increase poverty. Substantial amounts of the American working class stood up and said: "Fuck your socialism, fuck your Mexicans, fuck your blacks and fuck you women." And here you are carrying water for them. Again.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    While shitting on the working class, do you even know what kind of political idealogy socialism is? You do good for yourself..? good for you? Why would I care?
    Just pointing out that I'm a better person than you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post

    Liberals have more in common with conservatives, they are not left-wing.


    Just look at OP and his disdain of the working class.
    Well, great, continue to fight amongst yourselves then and just watch as the Republicans laugh at you both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Well, great, continue to fight amongst yourselves then and just watch as the Republicans laugh at you both.
    I dont really see it as infighting. Alt-right kids are trying to colonize some places on the left. Mostly for the purpose of profit and to weaken the left.

    It's important for Leftists to call them out and distance them from the movement.
    Instead of giving them "likes" every time they call Pelosi a corporate shill. Otherwise they keep coming back for more "likes" like hungry cats.

    I feel kinda bad for AOC in this regard. She was feeding them to gain views and clout. Now their masks are off ...



    Again, in what warped reality are these people thought leaders for the Left or any Worker's movements?
    • Their podcasts nearly put them in the top 1%.
    • 3 of them come from wealthy families. I dunno many working class people that went to elite highs schools and colleges that cost more than a small house.
    • 4 of them have failed careers as "comedians".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    I dont really see it as infighting. Alt-right kids are trying to colonize some places on the left. Mostly for the purpose of profit and to weaken the left.

    It's important for Leftists to call them out and distance them from the movement.
    Instead of giving them "likes" every time they call Pelosi a corporate shill. Otherwise they keep coming back for more "likes" like hungry cats.
    Yeah, see...that's the problem

    Both sides of this divide are accusing the other of not being "the real left"

    "You don't see things exactly the same way I do...ALT-RIGHT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yeah, see...that's the problem

    Both sides of this divide are accusing the other of not being "the real left"

    "You don't see things exactly the same way I do...ALT-RIGHT!"
    The altright and classic liberal, are interchangeable, because they can’t come out and be open about their far right tendencies.

    When Rudy Gulliani makes a comment about Trump being the real liberal from the turn of the century, your assertion is not as clear as it seems on the surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yeah, see...that's the problem

    Both sides of this divide are accusing the other of not being "the real left"

    "You don't see things exactly the same way I do...ALT-RIGHT!"
    Yeah except that sometimes its just a masquerade. Its ok to have a healthy debate and to mistrust Biden but you also have to consider what some of these people actually want as well. Sometimes the mask slips off. Tulsi Gabbard got shit on a lot even as she supported Bernie. Then she turns around and shows us she's still a shithead about LBGQT issues.

    Its not like the right wing has similar problems. I'm sure the Neo-cons aren't too thrilled with their racist shithead base for example. Just think about how scary the GOP could be if they would actually stop stealing from each other via election donations.

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