Riot Games is officialy working on an MMO.

[Ausr]

Nice one. Even as an atheist I am pissing myself laughing over this claim. So I will just disregard everything else you said. Or will ever say

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Well...according to this forum, everything about Wow is shit. A new MMO should just....exist to beat WoW. You know..like Wildstar or Rift set out to be. With "good quality content and design" - because you only need to use a buzzword and everything it is easily achieved with a snap of a finger.

But hey....given the development time of MMos...WoW can just stay shit for 5 more years. THEN the Riot game will show up...and it will be all buggy etc....and maybe Blizzard will worry then.

Out of curiosity...does Blizzard worry about the impact that huge franchise have...trying to do MMOs like SWToR or LoTRO? Are they quivering in their boots about AoC? Or about a company like Amazon launching New World?

Should they worry? Are YOU the people disliking WoW playing or going to play these games?

Or are you still going to be playing WoW?

Also laughing over is how hilariously slow Riot is with fixing anything.

[kaminaris]

ashes will not be the great succes people try to convince us.. because its basically a pvp mmo, pvp players love that, sure.. but they are not the majority of gamers playing mmo, the majority of gamers playing mmo dont love pvp at all

and its why i always wonder why all the new mmo focus so hard on pvp, its the big mistake they do lol

Its not a pvp mmo, have you actually checked what are they after? Or did you mistook ashes for new world?
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/PvE
Read the last section named PvX.

As for riot mmo, there is nothing wrong in crating mmo that has open world pvp as long as its done properly. If they will follow wow mistake of crating instance-only pvp then its gonna flop as well or just be afterthought like in WoW.

Biggest issue for them is trying to not create wow clone while having old employees, we all know how it went with wildstar.

[Saltysquidoon]

Nice one. Even as an atheist I am pissing myself laughing over this claim. So I will just disregard everything else you said. Or will ever say

More popular than god is an idiom, but I suppose anybody willing to tip their fedora that hard should be expected to post r/iamverysmart witty zingers.

Further, you probably should have read what I wrote because you would have noticed that LoL is the 4th most financially successful game in the world and the most financially successful single platform (PC) game on earth.

[Rendark]

If riot wanted to burn money they could just set it on fire.

[ZdravkoPvP]

LoL is more popular then god? Wait what now? Don't overreact please. LoL hasn't really been that popular anymore as it used to be. (No longer #1 in alot of websites, lets give example twitch) WoW is defeating em on a daily basis again, shows that they are obvious no longer the game it once was.

Nice one. Even as an atheist I am pissing myself laughing over this claim. So I will just disregard everything else you said. Or will ever say

It's amusing to see people who know barely anything about LoL comment like they do. League of Legends universe is the most popular of any PC game and it's not even close. League of Legends has minimum 150m monthly players, but it's likely passing 200m now with Wild Rift which is still in release stages.

NA/EU has around 5m ranked players last season with likely around 5m players who only play Normal/ARAM/TFT. This is 10m+ active players, NA has 1 server, EU has 2.

China has so many players it has 28 SERVERS. Yeah.. think about that for a minute.

League is now about to release on mobile worldwide and it's very polished. The gigantic mobile market that already loves League(China/Korea) is likely exploding even more. 90m people watched the 2019 and 2020 world finals in China, yes that's over 1/4th of the entire United States population.

Legends of Runeterra considered a "flop" for some reason has half the downloads in 1 year than Hearthstone has in 7 on mobile. But if you include China it would obviously be crushing Hearthstone.

TFT has over 1m ranked players on every single server(1.6m in NA alone) even in it's 4th season despite auto battlers dying faster than the dodo when Europeans showed up in Aus.

League Youtube channel has over 110m views in the last month just casually with nothing special going on, WoW Youtube has 9.5m views on the back of a highly acclaimed Shadowlands release. League Youtube total views is 4.9B to WoWs 544k.

League universe right now is 10-20x more popular than WoW globally and still creating more of a gap. League IP has mobile, an ARPG, turn based-RPG and fighting game on the way and now an MMO while WoW has?

Some enlightenment for people who don't know much about League...

[Ashleyxoxo]

First of all nobody will give a flying fuck if it has mtx on skins, 95% of actual value will come from content and gameplay.
if content/story/gameplay will be good, mtx wont matter in slightest, unless it will be straight up p2w.

Second, no it won't be a wow killer regardless of mtx. The only MMO in recent years that could come close to WoW aside from ff will be most likely Ashes.
Riot mmo has loooooooooooooong way ahead.

Ashes close to WoW? Don’t make me laugh.

[Odintdk]

Ah yes, Riot will make a "WoW killer clone" just like they did with CSGO right? Valorant is huge and CSGO is totally dead now..

/s

[anon5123]

does riot know an mmo won't work with spaghetti code?

Vanilla / Classic worked fine with shitloads of spaghetti code.

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Ah yes, Riot will make a "WoW killer clone" just like they did with CSGO right? Valorant is huge and CSGO is totally dead now..

/s

I lost count of how many new MMORPGs have been hailed as "the WoW killer". That title was given to pretty much every new MMO from 2006-2014 or so, and none of them "killed" WoW.

[Ashleyxoxo]

Ah yes, Riot will make a "WoW killer clone" just like they did with CSGO right? Valorant is huge and CSGO is totally dead now..

/s

Don’t forget how Legends of Runeterra totally killed Hearthstone!

[Varitok]

In it you must defend the culture and dignity of the CCP or face the wrath of gamers.

[Daedius]

I'd give it a try, but after that I'll avoid it like the plague because I HATE F2P games.

[ifrah]

Ah yes, Riot will make a "WoW killer clone" just like they did with CSGO right? Valorant is huge and CSGO is totally dead now..

/s

Not really following the scene, but isn't CS:GO getting/being quite marginal in terms of the major stuff anywhere else than in Europe/CIS region? Having everything from head to toes politicized in China, these Riot/Epic games being under Chinese ownership have an upper hand to get at least some Asian region snowballing going on, when Winnie the Pooh bans whatever purely American/European product from their market.

[kaminaris]

Ashes close to WoW? Don’t make me laugh.

Yes, it is the only one that can, if done correctly.

We have seen how mmos done by old blizz devs did, wildstar. So If riot goes that way, it will flop.

[Ashleyxoxo]

Yes, it is the only one that can, if done correctly.

We have seen how mmos done by old blizz devs did, wildstar. So If riot goes that way, it will flop.

They can’t even afford a good website layout, let alone compete with the juggernaut that is WoW.

[kaminaris]

They can’t even afford a good website layout, let alone compete with the juggernaut that is WoW.

>implying wow has good website layout
>implying wow isn't in decline product stage
>implying implications

I have watched couple of their stream and there is one thing that is different from all of their competitors: passion. You can see that they have clear vision of how their game is suppose to be. They are letting players know fairly frequently of their progress and they are actually communicating with players taking into account their opinions but not catering to everyone.

I am sure riot will make this mistake, they will bend on every corner and that will be their downfall. Similar to what is happening to WoW right now, shifting design philosophies left and right slowly chipping away both sides of playerbase.

Oh and similar to what has happened with New World.

[Cosmic Janitor]

and its why i always wonder why all the new mmo focus so hard on pvp, its the big mistake they do lol

It's way easier to develop pvp "content". That is about it. You need a bare minimum and people keep themselves busy. PvE on the other hand requires you to come up with alot of things ranging from story to compelling game interactions and you always need more of it.

[kaintk]

It's way easier to develop pvp "content". That is about it. You need a bare minimum and people keep themselves busy. PvE on the other hand requires you to come up with alot of things ranging from story to compelling game interactions and you always need more of it.

yeah, yeah, but i really think they lost a mountain of cash, cuting like this a big portion og the gamers interest for your game if it is only pvp

[Cosmic Janitor]

yeah, yeah, but i really think they lost a mountain of cash, cuting like this a big portion og the gamers interest for your game if it is only pvp

The problem is, even if you have more than PvP, alot of people just don't like mmo-pvp (aka ganking) in the first place. So even if you have tonns of PvE, any form of forced PvP is a detraction for many. So either you can tip toe around both audiences or you just make it straight PvP focused.

[kaintk]

The problem is, even if you have more than PvP, alot of people just don't like mmo-pvp (aka ganking) in the first place. So even if you have tonns of PvE, any form of forced PvP is a detraction for many. So either you can tip toe around both audiences or you just make it straight PvP focused.

Or just do warmode or server pvp and pve, blizzard understood that, why the other gaming business dont ?

[Wildmoon]

LoL is huge but the franchise does not always translate its popularity directly to new games based of off it. Hearthstone is still significantly more popular than both LoR and Team tactics despite its outrageous pricing model which should hinder it. The fact that HS gets away with it means the competition has been lacklustre.