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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    No you're literally just stereotyping white Americans based on a small amount of bad apples. There are some white people and brown people who are bigots but that is not an excuse to negatively generalize those people on the basis of their race and location.
    White rural Americans....MAJORITY ARE OLD WHITE AND RADICAL CONSERVATIVE they’re not “bad apples” they’re the fucking orchard.

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    The real issue... is why does an immigrant such as yourself, hate immigrants so damned much?
    Wrong “type” of immigrants.
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    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    White rural Americans....MAJORITY ARE OLD WHITE AND RADICAL CONSERVATIVE they’re not “bad apples” they’re the fucking orchard.
    Okay but disliking and judging people on the basis of race and age is called racism and ageism. Also you seem to have an irrational fear of rural societies so maybe we need to come up with a new word like "ruralphobia".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    White rural Americans....MAJORITY ARE OLD WHITE AND RADICAL CONSERVATIVE they’re not “bad apples” they’re the fucking orchard.
    Exhibit? What C? D? Man you are three years away from calling for a poll tax and requiring an advanced degree to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Exhibit? What C? D? Man you are three years away from calling for a poll tax and requiring an advanced degree to vote.
    What part of what I said is that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Okay but disliking and judging people on the basis of race and age is called racism and ageism. Also you seem to have an irrational fear of rural societies so maybe we need to come up with a new word like "ruralphobia".
    Interesting. White people telling everyone else that they’re too concerned about racism.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Interesting. White people telling everyone else that they’re too concerned about racism.
    Well you do racialize almost every thread for no good reason. Race is specifically listed as a forbidden topic which is a good thing because it only makes sense to argue in terms of explanations, solutions, and ideas and not in terms of people and their groups. Talking about groups of people is always a bad proxy for getting to the bottom of an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Well you do racialize almost every thread for no good reason. Race is specifically listed as a forbidden topic which is a good thing because it only makes sense to argue in terms of solutions and ideas you hate and not groups of people. Talking about groups of people is always a bad proxy for getting to the bottom of an issue.
    "Not talking about race is a good thing because people just argue," Says white person totally unconcerned with how race plays a major role in the ideology or rural people and does a great deal to explain their issues and their hatred of "California" Is it an accident that most of these hateful comments of cities and distrust of DC comes from majority white, very right wing places?

    You sound like a Burmese person bitching and moaning about people bringing up the Rohingya issue when speaking about the Rohingya region. "Let's just not"

    Things you may not think are about race often are. Why the right is aginst progressive issues is largely a race issue. Support for welfare and such plummets when white people think minorities will benefit. The only large social spending that was widely successful was stealing land from minorities and giving it away to white people to the point blacks lost a ridiculous amount of land.

    the perfect example of this conservative white bigoted failure were the shut down of public pools depriving everyone of a pool because they didn't want black people in the same pool as them.
    Now you may say "oh no but that is race" yeah well the issue is related to it... republicans aren't aginst "medicare for all" because of spending... they often vote in people against it who have put out ads and messages that specifically link the issue to minoritieis which then leads to a decrease in support.

    Frankly the only reasons Scandinavia has as many social nets as it does is because it was/is largely homogenous which takes away one of the major ways these very simple things are destroyed.

    This issue of whites, specifically conservative whites decrying progression due to "boogieman" issues that studies show time after time comes down to them just being bigots directly is related to why they hate California.

    A wealthy blue state that appears progressive and is destroying the moral fabric... just dog whistles.
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    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The real issue... is why does an immigrant such as yourself, hate immigrants so damned much?
    Probably 99% lying. Hence it got me thinking about people with fake accents.

    People will say anything if they think it gets them clout on Instagram ....or even MMOC apparently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Probably 99% lying. Hence it got me thinking about people with fake accents.

    People will say anything if they think it gets them clout on Instagram ....or even MMOC apparently!
    Jewish conservatives are the same way. There are refugee Iranian jews who are against Syrian refugees because they're doing it "the wrong way". As well as a lot of well off "special immigrants", primarily East Asians and other white European immigrants.

    You know... in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if American counts East Asians as white. It's a common strategy when your group begins to become less numerous. Build an ally with another ethic group you don't hate to continue the same shit. There are quite a few times this happened already in this country.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    What part of what I said is that.
    I can see the trajectory you are on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Probably 99% lying. Hence it got me thinking about people with fake accents.

    People will say anything if they think it gets them clout on Instagram ....or even MMOC apparently!
    What good is clout on MMO-C? Especially since I'm like the only person who says anything other than swill you could get on Dailykos or DNC press briefings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    I can see the trajectory you are on.

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    What good is clout on MMO-C? Especially since I'm like the only person who says anything other than swill you could get on Dailykos or DNC press briefings?
    The trajectory I am on is 1 person 1 vote.

    Clout chasers don't chase clout for logical reasons only. Sometimes they do it to fill an empty void.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    The trajectory I am on is 1 person 1 vote.

    Clout chasers don't chase clout for logical reasons only. Sometimes they do it to fill an empty void.
    Lol. You can color it however you like.

    As for clout, nah, I just like bringing topics to this patch of the internet that would otherwise be a DNC press briefing and 2008 era Dailykos clone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    Tankie Paleo-Conservatism with TERF characteristics / Socialism with My Chemical Romance characteristics. Caramelldansen Nationalism. Liberalism is the Pandemic. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. When that Polka hits!. Ceterum et dare nobis duo milia dollariorum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    What good is clout on MMO-C? Especially since I'm like the only person who says anything other than swill you could get on Dailykos or DNC press briefings?
    Because no one would be able to tell you apart from 1000s of altright bots, saying the same thing. Here, you are the bell of the ball... despite your claims that this is an echo chamber, how much you want to bet, that you get more replies per post, than any other poster on this forum? I don’t mean this as a personal attack, but one of clarifying political perspective...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Jewish conservatives are the same way. There are refugee Iranian jews who are against Syrian refugees because they're doing it "the wrong way". As well as a lot of well off "special immigrants", primarily East Asians and other white European immigrants.

    You know... in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if American counts East Asians as white. It's a common strategy when your group begins to become less numerous. Build an ally with another ethic group you don't hate to continue the same shit. There are quite a few times this happened already in this country.
    The black already count asians as white. Asians are smart and have good salary and work hard, that sounds fing white. Someone linked, your not mixed your asian and white, dont use mixed in your bio you racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    As for clout, nah, I just like bringing topics to this patch of the internet that would otherwise be a DNC press briefing and 2008 era Dailykos clone.
    Even though we discuss alt right bots saying the same thing, without necessity of their representation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    The black already count asians as white. Asians are smart and have good salary and work hard, that sounds fing white. Someone linked, your not mixed your asian and white, dont use mixed in your bio you racist.
    That’s not what I hear from talking to Asian people... that’s not what the spike in hate crimes towards them over the last year is saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Even though we discuss alt right bots saying the same thing, without necessity of their representation?

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    That’s not what I hear from talking to Asian people... that’s not what the spike in hate crimes towards them over the last year is saying...
    The spike is covid of cause. But if you check, there is higher demand(higher requirements) for asians to attend universities black get it easier but asians get it harder then whites. Why look as skin color, they should check background and wealth instead of skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    The black already count asians as white. Asians are smart and have good salary and work hard, that sounds fing white. Someone linked, your not mixed your asian and white, dont use mixed in your bio you racist.
    Lol what? Not all black people think that. Interesting to note here that black immigrants are quite prosperous as well. Education and career wise though... they always make less due to structural racism.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Lol what? Not all black people think that. Interesting to note here that black immigrants are quite prosperous as well. Education and career wise though... they always make less due to structural racism.
    Asians have it worse, google it, they need better degree then all to be able to join. Why? Its not like america didnt use them as really low paid labour too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    The spike is covid of cause. But if you check, there is higher demand(higher requirements) for asians to attend universities black get it easier but asians get it harder then whites. Why look as skin color, they should check background and wealth instead of skin.
    This is a lie.

    I mean for some reasons Asians can't get in schools yet they also... get in schools? Please...

    Asians are overrepresented but we are to believe that they're the ones truly suffering disproportionately? As for why look at skin colour... colleges try to get a varied group of people which helps expand the minds of the campus. Diversity is a goal.
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    Totally not racist

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    The how bullshit with race linked to anything is racism. Make it linked to income and area instead of skin colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Asians have it worse, google it, they need better degree then all to be able to join. Why? Its not like america didnt use them as really low paid labour too.
    Asians need a better degree to join a college to get a degree? So you mean Asians can't get into school unless they have a degree to get a degree?

    American used them as low paid labour but they came as indentured workers of their will not slaves.

    Also we know they're America's choice immigrant due to the fact they paid the Japanese 43k per person (adjusted for today's value) that was in interment camps... you know 43k for the two years inconvenience of that horror. Meanwhile slavery? Jim crow? Nah nothing though economist pegs the cost to right that wrong at about 29 trillion conservatively.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    The how bullshit with race linked to anything is racism. Make it linked to income and area instead of skin colour
    "It's racism to acknowledge the issue of racism"
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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