Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Muxtar]

It could just be cognitive dissonance, but your position is implicitly stating that you do not care about the rights of minorities. You're trying to justify the opinions of people who are against the rights of minorities while simultaneously trying to say people who outright reject the beliefs of those hateful people are simply being intolerant, as though that's a bad thing. I won't even shirk the label, if I am considered intolerant for not caring about the beliefs of Nazis and Klansmen, then colour me intolerant. I would rather be intolerant towards prejudice than be tolerant of it and contribute to the hatred of minorities.

If you genuinely believe we need to be tolerant of hate, you need to do some serious self reflection.

I never justified people who were for not allowing gays to be gay (if that is somehow possible lol), or to refusing them jobs or equal places in restaraunts etc. Same goes for blacks or women. But it is a clear distinction between giving equal rights to minorities, and giving them preferences (as it happens right now).

[Machismo]

Trump wrote a lot of stupid things on his twitter, but none of them were Nazi trash. Try to filter propaganda that flows into your ears.

Trump got banned for inciting violence, and pushing his guys to try and murder the sitting Vice-President.

Fuck Trump, he's a shitty Nazi.

[Theodarzna]

Wait snitching on people breaking the law is now a liberal thing and bad??? After a decade + of the republicans and trump trying to get people to snitch on Obama, Biden and Hillary to name a few.....

holy hell the flip.....

Ratting out to the police versus revealing police evils?

[Grapemask]

Trump wrote a lot of stupid things on his twitter, but none of them were Nazi trash. Try to filter propaganda that flows into your ears.

Trump also didn't explicitly tell people to break into the capitol building, but wouldn't you know it, they still did it. Because we're not stupid people, we understand that words have meaning and repercussions, often clearly intentional, even when those things aren't explicitly stated. For example, you probably don't argue that literacy tests weren't intended to disenfranchise blacks in the Jim Crow era, despite not discriminating by race.

[Machismo]

I never justified people who were for not allowing gays to be gay (if that is somehow possible lol), or to refusing them jobs or equal places in restaraunts etc. Same goes for blacks or women. But it is a clear distinction between giving equal rights to minorities, and giving them preferences (as it happens right now).

Evidence, please.

Considering the GOP in Arizona are still pissed that gay people have equal rights, methinks you should stick to a difference wheelhouse. Also, you never did provide the evidence that Harris is far left. How long are we going to have to wait for that?

[Theodarzna]

You just sound salty that the coup didn't work.
Reporting violent criminals to the authorities isn't a bad thing.

I'm amazed we are calling the Fentonyl riot a "Coup" in any sense of the word. You'd have to be pretty imaginative to even conjure that the US government was in any actual danger.

[Xyonai]

I mean, holding people who commit crimes accountable for the crimes they commit actually lines up really well with the spirit of the Police Reform movement; Which was about putting a public spotlight on how little accountability law enforcement officers have when they use excessive/lethal force in situations that don't call for it, especially against minorities and/or those with mental disorders.

[Edge-]

Ratting out to the police versus revealing police evils?

Ratting out bad cops that were part of the mob that stormed the Capitol building is...bad?

I mean police need massive reform. That they need massive reform doesn't mean that we shouldn't help identify traitorous mob members who stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to kidnap and/or kill elected officials.

[Machismo]

Ratting out to the police versus revealing police evils?

Once again, you are pissed off that people are turning in violent Nazis.

[Theodarzna]

Ratting out bad cops that were part of the mob that stormed the Capitol building is...bad?

I mean police need massive reform. That they need massive reform doesn't mean that we shouldn't help identify traitorous mob members who stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to kidnap and/or kill elected officials.

I get the sense that your objection to the police is something along the lines of "I'm not the police, if I was the police it would be good."

[Muxtar]

All those picked are professionals and have backgrounds, it is not merely catering. As for him picking members from different background and communities that is a good thing. I see no issue with creating a cabinet that is more representative of society as a whole.

Diversity is not an ugly word in my book.

All of those named professionals, professionals as they indeed are, are picked (or highlighted as reason to be picked) first of all because of their skin color/sex/orientation. Diversity as the first reason when hiring people on the top positions in the whole country is stupid and harmful. The only reason for hiring people should always be competence. Btw Trump didn't hire competent people as well, as we all saw. And we know what it ended with.

[Machismo]

I'm amazed we are calling the Fentonyl riot a "Coup" in any sense of the word. You'd have to be pretty imaginative to even conjure that the US government was in any actual danger.

They were armed, broke into the Capitol, and were trying to murder the sitting VP, as well as members of Congress. They literally missed them by a couple minutes, as they were being evacuated out the back.

You really suck at lying.

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All of those named professionals, professionals as they indeed are, are picked (or highlighted as reason to be picked) first of all because of their skin color/sex/orientation. Diversity as the first reason when hiring people on the top positions in the whole country is stupid and harmful. The only reason for hiring people should always be competence. Btw Trump didn't hire competent people as well, as we all saw. And we know what it ended with.

Once again, where's your evidence?

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I get the sense that your objection to the police is something along the lines of "I'm not the police, if I was the police it would be good."

Why are you defending cop killers?

[Muxtar]

Let's talk about killing politicians. A noose was brought to the Capitol and people stormed the building chanting "Hang Mike Pence" as the senators were retreating from the building. Additionally, they planted bombs in the building that needed to be detonated off-site. If you think that there was no intent to kill, you're being intentionally obtuse.

Regarding media bias against BLM, I would have to suggest you read the report and relevant polling, which I know is unlikely to happen, and then post after doing so.

Unless assault on a politician were made, all these chants are merely chants. As for planted bombs, I haven't read a thing about it, I only read about a car with unregistered guns which was parked nearby, that is also not a direct evidence. Maybe you could enlighten me on this topic.

And you gave hilariously bad answers. None of those are valid reasons. You basically call Biden's picks minority/diversity hires and then cleaned your hands of actually giving any valid reasons why Kamala or Sanders are far-left. You even backtrack on Kamala because, by your admission, you simply do not know anything about her.

I am not afraid of admitting when I was wrong, or incompetent. It is the thing I don't see from any of my opponents here.

[Edge-]

I'm amazed we are calling the Fentonyl riot a "Coup" in any sense of the word.

Attempted. Nobody said they were any good at it. They stormed the building. The killed federal law enforcement. The stated goal of many was to kidnap and/or kill members of Congress and the Vice President.

Why are you trying to minimize an attempted insurrection?

You'd have to be pretty imaginative to even conjure that the US government was in any actual danger.

Lawmakers were in danger. They were evacuated.

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I get the sense that your objection to the police is something along the lines of "I'm not the police, if I was the police it would be good."

I'm getting the sense that your ability to "read" people through their internet posts is nonexistent. Now do we want to have a discussion, or are you just going to make up inaccurate observations?

[Muxtar]

Once again, where's your evidence?

Evidence that they were highlighted first of all as 'first woman/black/gay in Biden's team on that post'? You serious?

[Endus]

Evidence that they were highlighted first of all as 'first woman/black/gay in Biden's team on that post'? You serious?

Bet he is.

Because drawing the conclusion you're drawing, from that bit of evidence you're citing, is just naked racism. There's no argument there. Just anger that a minority has been chosen for a powerful position in government. You implicitly presume they must be less qualified than a straight white man, solely because they are not a straight white man.

[JohnBrown1917]

Hmmm sacrifice/snitch on your family & loved ones after spending all summer screaming "ACAB"... yup that Patriot Act is going to be celebrated by today's libs, and most will work pro-bono to help it along.







The coming Public-Private Partnership Panopticon of mass surveillance and snitching is one heck of a way for the US to go under but I guess it was inevitable. Once that new Patriot Act gets in and we can finally bring the failed War on Terror home to fail and fuck up this country directly, its one heck of a decade coming for the US. Once more, without a hint of irony, all those people who last summer were saying "ACAB" and Abolish the Police will be happy Janissaroes and unpaid cops for the new Patriot Act. Mark my words on that one, you can take that to the bank.

They are white fascists, the cops wont kill them or maim them.


Theyll be fine.

[Machismo]

Evidence that they were highlighted first of all as 'first woman/black/gay in Biden's team on that post'? You serious?

Yes, I'm serious, you keep making all these claims, and cannot back them up with evidence.

Remember when you said Harris was far left?

Evidence, please.

[Orange Joe]

Lets remember that there are other threads for some of the discussion going on here, so we can stay on topic to recent events.


The thread is getting a bit jumbled.

Wait.... didn't you just close 3 threads telling people to bring it here? Now you're telling people to take it elsewhere?

Mod edit: My fault for not being clear. The discussion about Nazi Germany, Biden, police brutality/BLM, and other tangents either weren't relevant anymore or already have threads dedicated to them. That warning made earlier was for that. This thread is to be about what happened on the 6th. Too many threads and this one needed a clearer topic for guidance.

[Belize]

I'm amazed we are calling the Fentonyl riot a "Coup" in any sense of the word. You'd have to be pretty imaginative to even conjure that the US government was in any actual danger.

Yeah, haha, people didn't break into the capitol building, with zip ties and weapons with the explicit intent to take hostages, and didn't threaten to murder the VP and Senators/Reps.

GTFO. You downplaying what happened just highlights how
1. Upset you are it failed
2. How worthless your opinions are

Go watch a few of the videos of Trump Supporting terrorists looting the capitol like the worthless lowlife wastes of oxygen they are, and come back once you've seen what really happened, not what Breitbart and Stormfront are sanitizing before showing you.