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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Even an Immigrant like Arnold understands more about America then Donald Trump who was here by Birthright Citizenship.
    Being a naturalized citizen myself, tbh I understand the U.S. and its government more than most of my American friends.

    Turns out having to be a model citizen for a decade to earn something instills more respect and knowledge than just it being given to you for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't agree with them but they believe they lost from underhanded methods. I do believe there needs to more transparency in elections myself but it isn't quite as your making it out.
    There is transparency. They just believe in conspiracy theories. The solution isn't to validate those conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    As a social democrat you should have gone for Sanders.



    what is going to happen that in 2 years their will be a told you so moment.



    thats nice and all but that doesnt give this organisation any reason to torch the shops if small business owners. If you do that you are nothing more then a criminal.



    I will once again suggest start to prepare for civil war if you have this mindset. In their eyes you are the traitor. Conflict is unavoidable when both groups hate each other.

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    They have no more fate in democracy
    Dude, you're a Trump supporter... trying to suddenly pretend to argue from the left, when your entire screed has been to shill for racists and oppose free speech, seems rather pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I mean sure you are so long as your agree with them.
    No, because they're fanatic conspiracy theorists repeatedly threatening elected officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't disagree though I hold a lot of reservations about mail in voting especially with the ballots being destroyed before everything is finalized.

    Still its important to understand why they are doing what they are doing.
    They were explained and debunked multiple times.
    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    They were explained and debunked multiple times.
    They are a bit out of date on their Kremlin talking points.

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    Seems for Trumpers the only time Blue Lives Matter is when they are taking Black Lives.

    Bantered around social media, can't claim as my original.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Seems for Trumpers the only time Blue Lives Matter is when they are taking Black Lives.

    Bantered around social media, can't claim as my original.
    It made it clear that the "Thin Blue Line" flag isn't about supporting cops. It's about white supremacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I mean sure you are so long as your agree with them.
    Killed that straw man dead.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't agree with them but they believe they lost from underhanded methods. I do believe there needs to more transparency in elections myself but it isn't quite as your making it out.
    Yes, it is. The reason they believe they lost is that their guy spent months before the election insisting, repeatedly, that there would be fraud and that he could not possibly lose unless the Democrats cheated. When he lost, he spent the next two months continuing to insist that he lost fraudulently, all while spouting conspiracy theories about dead people voting, and duplicate ballots, and reprogrammed machines, and whatever other nonsense he could come up with, despite there being literally zero evidence of any of that. Even people within his own administration agreed that there was no evidence of fraud, and when they said this he FIRED THEM.

    This was an extremely transparent election, but for the fact that the incumbent lives in an alternate reality where he's the best person ever and literally could not ever lose fairly, all evidence to the contrary be damned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't agree with them but they believe they lost from underhanded methods. I do believe there needs to more transparency in elections myself but it isn't quite as your making it out.
    its quite a talent to talk out of both sides of your mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't disagree though I hold a lot of reservations about mail in voting especially with the ballots being destroyed before everything is finalized.

    Still its important to understand why they are doing what they are doing.
    It helps your credibility, when pretending that you don't agree with them, to not parrot their garbage talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I have no need to prepare for civil war. The right has already lost a civil war. And it's been losing ever since. Every single time they try to push their regressionist bullshit on us, whether it be the 30's and the Jews, the 60's and civil rights, the 2000's and Mexicans, the Japanese concentration camps, the right has always failed. Jan 6 was a failure. I don't just laugh, I guffaw at the idea of a bunch of gravy seals showing up with some AR's then pissing their pants as the national guard starts tear gasing them. The right has no organization, no leader. They are toothless and spineless. Bring on the civil war, we'll put them in their place, just like we did in 1865.
    What makes you think that the national guard is going to fight for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Because they lost?

    What a bunch of delicate, sensitive snowflakes. The "Fuck your feelings" crowd sure wants everyone to tiptoe around their feelings.

    .
    Because their way of live threatened . You are not helping at all with your attitude that these people should transition to low paying ICT jobs. So you are telling them to fuck of and die. And thats a threat. Democracy only works if all parties involved believe they can thrive in it. And they are not thriving.

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    JUST IN: Trump orders flags to half-staff in honor of Capitol Police officers https://t.co/Vc0GhCg1lt https://t.co/kJsdK0MRVl
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...425150464?s=19

    Too little, too late you PoS, insurrectionist mother beeper.

    Even this, how long til his staff had to convince him. A real PoS.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post

    Yet one side had a President who inflamed and instigated right wing extremist terrorists to storm the castle.
    And is likely going to happen even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Because their way of live threatened .
    It is? How?

    Because a guy with a "D" next to his name is in the White House?

    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    You are not helping at all with your attitude that these people should transition to low paying ICT jobs.
    ...what?

    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    So you are telling them to fuck of and die.
    Not at all. They're voting for people who won't help them and sell them false promises like "COAL IS COMING BACK!" and refuse to actively participate in a capitalist system, instead expecting the government to maintain their way of life despite changes in the world.

    They can adapt, or go on welfare while complaining about how much the government spends on social safety nets and votes for people who promise to cut social safety nets.

    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And thats a threat.
    That's not a threat, if that's the "threat" you were implying earlier. They're demanding that the taxpayers subsidize a way of life that's no longer sustainable. We didn't do this for telegram operators. We didn't do this for steam-engine coal shovelers. We didn't do this for blacksmiths. We're not going to do it for them. We already pay for farmers to grow shit that they can't sell.

    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Democracy only works if all parties involved believe they can thrive in it. And they are not thriving.
    So if Democrats believe they can't survive...then the Democracy falls apart and Republicans are threatening their lives and can totes storm the Capitol building with the stated intent of kidnapping and killing lawmakers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And is likely going to happen even more.
    And I hope the responses are proportional next time. Given how much they cried about a little bit of mace and tear gas while they murdered federal officers, I don't think they have the stones to stand for a few hours against the force cops brought against BLM, much less a proper response to an attempted insurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    Let's stop the above and go back to whatever topic existed prior to the derail.
    so because you were wrong about what this thread was about, and likley dolled out a bunch of infractions befor even reading the thread title and noticing the date, you have decided instead of appologising you will just change the thread title.... not noting how nuts it is a thread about the capitol hill insurection was some how created multiple days befor said event....



    this is the kind of cancerous moderating people rightly complain about, hows about befor complaining about others derailing threads, you sort your own shit out and stop renaming threads away from there origonal topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krakan View Post
    I don't disagree though I hold a lot of reservations about mail in voting
    Funny how Pennsylvania's Republican-controlled legislature had no such reservations in 2019 when they unanimously voted to expand mail-in voting, but then when it turned out to help the other guy win they were all against it and said it couldn't be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    this is the kind of cancerous moderating people rightly complain about, hows about befor complaining about other derailing threads, you sort your own shit out and stop renaming threads away from there origonal topic.
    Who cares? It was just a stupid koko crackpot thread.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post


    Because their way of live threatened . You are not helping at all with your attitude that these people should transition to low paying ICT jobs. So you are telling them to fuck of and die. And thats a threat. Democracy only works if all parties involved believe they can thrive in it. And they are not thriving.
    Trumps base is middle and upper class whites they are doing fine economically.

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