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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    "Twitter bans for inciting violence should last for months or years not hours."
    - Andrew Yang

    https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/statu...73832951656449

    "Polarization and violence will continue to rise unless we address social media’s cultivation of extremity and conspiracy theories. Fake news spreads 6 times more powerfully than truth on social media. That is a landscape that will breed mistrust and hatred."
    - Andrew Yang

    https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/statu...76917821227010
    His ups can make me overlook his downs. No such thing as a perfect candidate. On the bright side he isn't biased when he talks about extremism & conspiracy theories. He's the type of guy to look at the statistics to determine if something is true. Hell, he acknowledged declining white birthrates https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewyan...42292527874048

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    So, you've been arguing for pages about how Parler shouldn't have been shut down...and you didn't even bother to find out the reason why?
    No I came into this thread with an article about world leaders being against the president's twitter ban. Didn't care much about parler since Gab is superior in every way. It just came up in conversation.
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    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    His ups can make me overlook his downs. No such thing as a perfect candidate. On the bright side he isn't biased when he talks about extremism & conspiracy theories. He's the type of guy to look at the statistics to determine if something is true. Hell, he acknowledged declining white birthrates https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewyan...42292527874048

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    No I came into this thread with an article about world leaders being against the president's twitter ban. Didn't care much about parler since Gab is superior in every way. It just came up in conversation.
    You didn't even know why they got booted...

    Man, imagine your embarrassment. You've been shilling for Nazis based on a false narrative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    True, but that said: there are significant issues with a small number of private for-profit companies being the de facto gatekeepers to the information and communication that such a vast swath of people interact with.
    I would vehemently disagree that they're the gatekeepers to information and communication. If you're getting all your info from Youtube or Twitter, you're not actually interested in informing yourself in the first place.

    Even the communication methods they offer are pretty niche. It's become a very popular niche, to be sure, but there's definitely alternatives. A lot of this "but they control communication" is like when people say "but where am I gonna buy clothes if I'm banned from Wal-Mart?" Yes, Wal-Mart is big and convenient, but they're hardly the only source.

    My issues with such companies goes a lot deeper, and if we wanna go there, we're gonna get into a debate about worker collectives versus private ownership and so forth. Which is pretty wildly off-topic. I don't see the size itself as a problem. Nor do I see their communication streams to be somehow a necessity. I've gotten through my life without an effective Facebook account just fine, and my Youtube and Twitter usage is entirely as a browser, not someone using it as a platform. A lot of this "but they're big communication angles" just smacks of a "want", not a "need".

    If a single company was controlling all the rentable apartments in a city and was jacking rents through the roof, that would be a different story. That's really not what we're talking about, here, especially with something like Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You didn't even know why they got booted...

    Man, imagine your embarrassment. You've been shilling for Nazis based on a false narrative.
    No i've been shilling for Joe

    I knew they had posters threaten violence on their platform, I thought they had deleted them to follow their own TOS. If they can't even follow their own terms they were destined to fail.
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    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    No i've been shilling for Joe

    I knew they had posters threaten violence on their platform, I thought they had deleted them to follow their own TOS. If they can't even follow their own terms they were destined to fail.
    They did follow it.

    Joe who?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    They did follow it.

    Joe who?
    Since they're offline their TOS is gone but I found an article that grabbed the relevant part. They too noticed that the website couldn't uphold its own TOS
    "(R)eported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be deemed a violation of these Guidelines if they contain:
    6.1.1 a “serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals,” with either the intent or reckless disregard as to whether the communication will “place the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.”

    6.1.2 an explicit or implicit encouragement to use violence, or to commit a lawless action, such that: (a) the Parleyer intends his or her speech to result in the use of violence or lawless action, and (b) the imminent use of violence or lawless action is the likely result of the parley, comment, or message."

    Joe Mama
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    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Since they're offline their TOS is gone but I found an article that grabbed the relevant part. They too noticed that the website couldn't uphold its own TOS
    "(R)eported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be deemed a violation of these Guidelines if they contain:
    6.1.1 a “serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals,” with either the intent or reckless disregard as to whether the communication will “place the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.”

    6.1.2 an explicit or implicit encouragement to use violence, or to commit a lawless action, such that: (a) the Parleyer intends his or her speech to result in the use of violence or lawless action, and (b) the imminent use of violence or lawless action is the likely result of the parley, comment, or message."

    Joe Mama
    So, shitposting... just to shill for Nazis.

    Yep, I'm glad I had you pegged from the very beginning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Since they're offline their TOS is gone but I found an article that grabbed the relevant part. They too noticed that the website couldn't uphold its own TOS
    "(R)eported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be deemed a violation of these Guidelines if they contain:
    6.1.1 a “serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals,” with either the intent or reckless disregard as to whether the communication will “place the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.”

    6.1.2 an explicit or implicit encouragement to use violence, or to commit a lawless action, such that: (a) the Parleyer intends his or her speech to result in the use of violence or lawless action, and (b) the imminent use of violence or lawless action is the likely result of the parley, comment, or message."

    Joe Mama
    Because that TOS is deliberately phrased to be completely useless. What quantifiable measure are you using to determine if an expression of intent is "serious" or not? How do you objectively measure intent? If they don't want to ban anyone, they can just say they don't have evidence of either (since one is subjective and the other would require mind-reading), and that gives them an excuse to take no action.

    Not taking action by those terms would be entirely justifiable, in legal terms. Just not in, y'know, ethical or basic human decency terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post

    No I came into this thread with an article about world leaders being against the president's twitter ban. Didn't care much about parler since Gab is superior in every way. It just came up in conversation.
    You'll notice I didn't say anything about how you came into this thread... I said you were arguing against the parler shut down for pages...

    How you entered the thread is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    And trespassing laws only apply to real life property. Backpedal more.
    The law and the courts disagree with you. Move along.

    Also, the tricky thing about free speech is there's a thin red line between free speech and sedition/insurrection. Trump committed the latter, so even if you were right about only physical property counting (which you're hilariously not) Trump committed a crime anyway, and Twitter took action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    I'm a big fan of the constitution,
    Judging by your posting history, this is a lie and an affront to the constitution.
    "Nazis are like cats. If they like you, it's probably because you're feeding them." -John Oliver
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    You'll notice I didn't say anything about how you came into this thread... I said you were arguing against the parler shut down for pages...

    How you entered the thread is irrelevant.
    Bruh all of my posts in here have been about the the ability to post freely, parlor hasn't been brought up til very recently. idgaf about parlol it's gone now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    sedition/insurrection.
    Yooo, is this the new and improved russian collusion nothingburger?
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Bruh all of my posts in here have been about the the ability to post freely, parlor hasn't been brought up til very recently. idgaf about parlol it's gone now.

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    Yooo, is this the new and improved russian collusion nothingburger?
    Enjoy!!!

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

    just in case you feel like lying, again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Enjoy!!!

    https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

    just in case you feel like lying, again.
    Trump's going to jail for sure after this one
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Trump's going to jail for sure after this one
    At least you've revealed yourself for exactly what we've all known you to be from the beginning. There's no need to keep pretending.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    At least you've revealed yourself for exactly what we've all known you to be from the beginning. There's no need to keep pretending.
    A member of the Yang Gang?
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    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    A member of the Yang Gang?
    I love that you Trumpsters jump in here to try and push "concerns," and your entire narrative is torn to shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Yooo, is this the new and improved russian collusion nothingburger?
    Its the topic of the fucking thread despite your efforts to derail it.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I love that you Trumpsters jump in here to try and push "concerns," and your entire narrative is torn to shit.
    I'm a Yang voter before all. I come to the gen OT echo chamber to learn and laugh. Today I learned that the constitution isn't enough for the tyranny of today.
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Joe who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    I'm a Yang voter before all. I come to the gen OT echo chamber to learn and laugh. Today I learned that the constitution isn't enough for the tyranny of today.
    You are are the one pushing tyranny...
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...?ref=bfnsplash

    And GoFundMe has axed e-begging for money to travel to fascist rallies anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Today I learned that the constitution isn't enough for the tyranny of today.
    It'd help if you learned the Constitution to begin with, because your posts here repeatedly indicate that you haven't even read the damn thing. Cosplay patriots are weird.

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