Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[wunksta]

Folks like Boebert are probably sweating bullets right now.

She denies it, predictably and says she's getting death threats now. To which, I imagine, AOC would say 'welcome to the club'.

[Endus]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/15/gop-...itol-riot.html



And Capitol police looking into whether any Republican lawmakers, who gave tours the day before the vote when tours were supposedly not allowed due to covid and security concerns, gave tours to some of the insurrectionists.

Folks like Boebert are probably sweating bullets right now.

Especially with the fact that some Democratic members of Congress had their panic buttons torn out the day or so before the 6th (exact time uncertain, since they only noticed when they went to push them during the attack).

If some of these Republican fucks led a "tour" to disable panic buttons, they should be prosecuted as terrorists and insurrectionists themselves, directly. 30+ years in prison.

[TigTone]

Especially with the fact that some Democratic members of Congress had their panic buttons torn out the day or so before the 6th (exact time uncertain, since they only noticed when they went to push them during the attack).

If some of these Republican fucks led a "tour" to disable panic buttons, they should be prosecuted as terrorists and insurrectionists themselves, directly. 30+ years in prison.

I’m surprised at the total shit system they have on doors. They should have key card entry for every fucking door.

And the key card should record time/date of entry and each person gets a unique ID.

If my local county does that why doesn’t Capitol Hill has a similar system to track who opens what.

[Edge-]

Especially with the fact that some Democratic members of Congress had their panic buttons torn out the day or so before the 6th (exact time uncertain, since they only noticed when they went to push them during the attack).

If some of these Republican fucks led a "tour" to disable panic buttons, they should be prosecuted as terrorists and insurrectionists themselves, directly. 30+ years in prison.

That's still wild to me, has that been fully confirmed? If so like...that's a separate investigation into who removed it, and if it was removed at the order of someone working at the building who gave the order and why.

[Machismo]

That's still wild to me, has that been fully confirmed? If so like...that's a separate investigation into who removed it, and if it was removed at the order of someone working at the building who gave the order and why.

That one is still rather questionable, considering the amount of work that would be involved. Installing them would have meant weeks of work and planning, as would fully removing them. If just the end devices were pulled out, then that is definitely something that should be investigated by the FBI.

Treat it as attempted murder, just as if someone had cut your brake lines, or closed off an IV.

[Edge-]

That one is still rather questionable, considering the amount of work that would be involved. Installing them would have meant weeks of work and planning, as would fully removing them. If just the end devices were pulled out, then that is definitely something that should be investigated by the FBI.

Treat it as attempted murder, just as if someone had cut your brake lines, or closed off an IV.

I can totally understand them being installed in all offices, and it's not terribly difficult to rip them out afterwards. Though it raises a lot of questions like, "Wouldn't ripping them out trigger the system and set of warnings? Is the system not designed to set of warnings if they're forcefully removed?"

[PhaelixWW]

I can totally understand them being installed in all offices, and it's not terribly difficult to rip them out afterwards. Though it raises a lot of questions like, "Wouldn't ripping them out trigger the system and set of warnings? Is the system not designed to set of warnings if they're forcefully removed?"

In security work, one should always expect fuckery.

[Blur4stuff]

I'm much more worried about a right winger killing me than someone in BLM/Antifa. Honestly, I can count on one hand the number of times in my life I've even seen someone in BLM. It's zero for Antifa. Number of times I've crossed paths with a wacko/angry right winger threatening/wishing for violence? Thousands.

I've had to listen to right wingers express their death and race war fantasies for decades.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-...s-news&via=rss

Eyyy, the "economically anxious" real estate agent who took a private jet to the capitol riot got pinched.

Jenna Ryan, a Frisco, Texas real estate broker and life coach, has been charged with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building without lawful authority and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds after documenting her two-day excursion to D.C. on social media.

I knew there was a reason I don't trust so-called "life coaches". And her thoughts on her fellow rioter that was killed?

“Then they were like, ‘someone got shot in there,’ and we were like we don’t care because our freedom is more important to us than our lives because the whole premise is give us liberty or give us death,” she said. “We are frontline patriots who are fighting for liberty.”

What a fuckin class act!

[Machismo]

I can totally understand them being installed in all offices, and it's not terribly difficult to rip them out afterwards. Though it raises a lot of questions like, "Wouldn't ripping them out trigger the system and set of warnings? Is the system not designed to set of warnings if they're forcefully removed?"

Most are rather simple devices that are not really made to be tamper resistant. For most, disconnecting them would report a malfunction, at best, and not an actual security alarm.

The Capitol Building is old as shit, and like a lot of old buildings around DC, the internal infrastructure is garbage. Modern technology requires a lot of wiring to be run, and that's not easily done in buildings that are made of large chunks of stone. What used to be a small office (or even a large closet), is now the server room, phone center, wireless hub, and alarm center.

Even running a single networking cable is a pain in the ass, because it has to be masked from public view, for multiple reasons. What every other building made since the 1960's can just run inside the walls, is a huge challenge in a building like that. I've been in buildings where the publicly-viewable areas are gorgeous, with lots of stained wood, grand doors, statues, and amazing tile floors. But, through those doors, you will find shitty little rooms that are a nightmare to deal with.

if they were ripped out without the knowledge of the staff in those offices (which I still doubt the story), then it would have been done in the middle of the night, and all the cabling would have remained there. There is no logical reason for doing such a thing, that isn't nefarious as hell.

[pathora44]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jenna-...s-news&via=rss

Eyyy, the "economically anxious" real estate agent who took a private jet to the capitol riot got pinched.



I knew there was a reason I don't trust so-called "life coaches". And her thoughts on her fellow rioter that was killed?



What a fuckin class act!

You missed the best part

Then, she turned to the camera and added, “Y’all know who to hire for your realtor. Jenna Ryan for your realtor.”

Just like God Emperor Trump and all the other grifters that follow him "It don't mean a thing, if you ain't got that grift. Do Wap Do Wap"

[Lenonis]

Especially with the fact that some Democratic members of Congress had their panic buttons torn out the day or so before the 6th (exact time uncertain, since they only noticed when they went to push them during the attack).

If some of these Republican fucks led a "tour" to disable panic buttons, they should be prosecuted as terrorists and insurrectionists themselves, directly. 30+ years in prison.

If that is true this brings the events of Jan 6th to a whole new chilling level. It's one thing to have a bunch of angry rednecks get riled up by a speech and storm the capital, but it's entire another to have coordination with elected officials to go as far as disabling panic buttons.

If this is true they literally tried to murder their colleagues.

And, it begs the question -- how on EARTH did they think they wouldn't get caught?

[TigTone]

And, it begs the question -- how on EARTH did they think they wouldn't get caught?

A lot of conspiracies theorists have the common trait of thinking they are some high level genius.

[Lenonis]

A lot of conspiracies theorists have the common trait of thinking they are some high level genius.

Well they certainly think Trump is which is laughably stupid.

It's so hard for me to wrap my head around elected officials at the federal level being this out of touch with reality and...this sinister. I really hope there is a more benign explanation because if this is really what happened it's nearly incomprehensible.

Although it would allow us to easily expel them from office which would be a net positive...

[Zaktar]

If that is true this brings the events of Jan 6th to a whole new chilling level. It's one thing to have a bunch of angry rednecks get riled up by a speech and storm the capital, but it's entire another to have coordination with elected officials to go as far as disabling panic buttons.

If this is true they literally tried to murder their colleagues.

And, it begs the question -- how on EARTH did they think they wouldn't get caught?

Were they scared of getting caught? In their minds their coup would be successful, and their friends would be in charge celebrating their victory.

[wunksta]

On January 15, 2021, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi wore a broach in the style of the Mace signaling to members of Congress that an investigation with likely disciplinary action lay ahead.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...box=1610732519
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_o...s#Symbolic_use

Shit's going down.

[beanman12345]

If that is true this brings the events of Jan 6th to a whole new chilling level. It's one thing to have a bunch of angry rednecks get riled up by a speech and storm the capital, but it's entire another to have coordination with elected officials to go as far as disabling panic buttons.

If this is true they literally tried to murder their colleagues.

And, it begs the question -- how on EARTH did they think they wouldn't get caught?

I mean they are side stepping metal detectors so they can bring guns into the chamber. why the fuck does a republican lawmaker need to bring a gun into the capitol much less the chamber? They aren't the ones being targeted, this isn't "self defense," or any other bullshit claim, there is no rational reasoning other than to induce fear. Yeah several old and several new members of congress, need immediate expulsion, and any legal actions taken against them if warranted.

[fwc577]

Were they scared of getting caught? In their minds their coup would be successful, and their friends would be in charge celebrating their victory.

Not only that, had it succeeded and had several politicians had been killed, it would’ve been a case where their would’ve been so much chaos about what to do next, that their involvement would’ve likely fallen under the radar.

At least, that’s what I’m guessing they thought would happen.

[Zaktar]

Not only that, had it succeeded and had several politicians had been killed, it would’ve been a case where their would’ve been so much chaos about what to do next, that their involvement would’ve likely fallen under the radar.

At least, that’s what I’m guessing they thought would happen.

Maybe, you have to think though that there would be a thorough investigation regardless. The only way that doesn't happen is if someone is in position to stop it. That said, sheer stupidity isn't something you can really put past these people so... fair point.

[wunksta]

that their involvement would’ve likely fallen under the radar.

Or they would get pardons or the investigations would be dropped by Trump if he somehow managed to stop the electoral count.