Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Cthulhu 2020]

It concerns me that more and more the average conservative thinks of people like you as communists that want to kill us all and put our children in reeducation camps. It also concerns me that more and more the average liberal thinks of people like me as a terrorist and power hungry fascist bent on world domination. Neither is an accurate conception of reality and both are damaging to the future of this country.

This seems like a self fulfilling prophecy. liberals never wanted to kill all conservatives and reeducate them, but here we are, with conservatives firing the first shots against demons that don't exist. Now guess what? They've painted themselves as clear and present danger to America such that the alphabet soup organizations are now trying to weed out right wing extremists.



Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Stop shooting bullets at liberals because you think they're akin to the demons in your head. Build bridges, don't burn them. Right wing violent extremism is on the rise in America, and it's only going to get worse. Trump was not the problem, he just agitated what was already a growing problem. Conservatives have been voting against their own interests for decades, and after decades of degrading their own standard of living, there was growing angst among them - mostly economic. But that economic angst agitated other factors like questioning their own place in society. As they saw minorities getting help programs they felt like these minorities were getting an unfair advantage, when in reality, these programs are simply designed to bring minorities up to equal footing. Meanwhile, many of these conservatives could have turned to government programs for help, but many refused, seeing it as a blow to their pride/ego to accept help from a government entity.

So of course corporations saw this growing angst, that it was starting to be directed at these large corporations, and began to funnel the trillions of dollars they'd made into rhetoric about it how was THE MEXICANS stealing their jobs. Easiest way to stop conservatives from attacking big money is to tell them that it's penniless migrants who are at fault for why conservatives themselves are facing hardship. Pretty sneaky and underhanded, but effective, given how conservatives often view big business as flawless gods.

The 2020's will likely be defined as a new civil rights era, as well as an era marked by right wing extremist violence. Conservative extremism has always appeared in the past in America's history - From the original royalists (yes, those who supported the english crown were the conservatives of their day) through persecution of catholics and Jews, to Japanese internment camps, all the way up through today. But every single time, the conservative hate machine has been squashed. Every. Single. Time. And it will be squashed again.

[Felya]

Can anyone think of any reason why liberals or leftists wouldn’t be as big of a concern for the military? When do liberals sign up, before hugging trees or after protesting war?

[Bodakane]

Oh, that part is Trump’s 1776 commission...

Edit: what animal would replace 12 monkeys, since we are not talking about environmental terrorist, but fascist terrorist? Would it still be 12 monkeys, but with each one having the little Hitler mustache? Was there an animal fascist like? 12 German Shepherds? Schnell x 12...

12 Trumpanzees

[JohnBrown1917]

To be clear about the various anarchism idealogies, its about opposing hierachies, not the idea of having a government or laws.


Aside from Anarchist capitalists, but they are a joke.

[Felya]

Uhm... Michael Flynn’s brother was part of the army response to capital riots... Army Secretary has now resigned...

[Cthulhu 2020]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...party-building

Rejecting Biden’s message of unity, Portland’s self-described anarchists target a Democratic Party building

Man you remember all of those right wing trolls who were really concerned about all of the property damage antifa did? I imagine we'll see them in here ANY MOMENT to denounce this property damage by right wing extremists. Any moment now...

[Eviscero]

wait this post doesnt make sense?

My post makes perfect sense. I am being critical of Fox News and the far right who claim these protesters are far left. Which is of course ridiculous given that these rioters are anarchists who don't support Biden or Democrats. Anarchists stand in opposition to government, they aren't Democrats, they aren't socialists. If anything they're closer to libertarians. So it's doubly absurd that for Fox News to point at these rioters and say "see see! the LEFT is radical and violent too!!"

[Poopymonster]

My post makes perfect sense. I am being critical of Fox News and the far right who claim these protesters are far left. Which is of course ridiculous given that these rioters are anarchists who don't support Biden or Democrats. Anarchists stand in opposition to government, they aren't Democrats, they aren't socialists. If anything they're closer to libertarians. So it's doubly absurd that for Fox News to point at these rioters and say "see see! the LEFT is radical and violent too!!"

I've always thought of Anarchists as the logical conclusion of the Small Government Republican assholes*. How much smaller can you get than none.

*As opposed to the Trumphadists, Military Fetishists, Corporatists, Fundi-gelicals or other flavors of right wing assholery.

[Edge-]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...party-building

Rejecting Biden’s message of unity, Portland’s self-described anarchists target a Democratic Party building

Cool, fuck those losers.

See how easy it is to reject nonsense?

[Felya]

Cool, fuck those losers.

See how easy it is to reject nonsense?

Those fuckers are ruining my entire wardrobe... damn it... I need more colors... IT’S SLIMMING!!!

[Deus Mortis]

Cool, fuck those losers.

See how easy it is to reject nonsense?

Yup, not sure what makes it hard for people to condemn actions by groups(we saw a lot of people trying to make excuses during the capitol riot).

[Forogil]

My post makes perfect sense. I am being critical of Fox News and the far right who claim these protesters are far left. Which is of course ridiculous given that these rioters are anarchists who don't support Biden or Democrats.

It's possible to be both far left and opposed to Democrats. You just have to be really really far left.

Anarchists stand in opposition to government, they aren't Democrats, they aren't socialists.

Many anarchists have been socialists/communists (and actually that - and not randomly called socialists by the uninformed). And the goals of communism and anarchism are often similar - but the way differs. But I haven't been to Portland recently so I don't know about these anarchists.

And, it depends, as a movement that don't want a leader rarely speaks with one voice.

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Cool, fuck those losers.

See how easy it is to reject nonsense?

Exactly. And, use "fuck" to good effect as well.

[Lenonis]

Man you remember all of those right wing trolls who were really concerned about all of the property damage antifa did? I imagine we'll see them in here ANY MOMENT to denounce this property damage by right wing extremists. Any moment now...

...but are anarchists really on the left vs right spectrum? I always thought they were kind of a third dimension to the axis where they only care about government size but don't really have an aligned stance on policy.

[gondrin]

...but are anarchists really on the left vs right spectrum? I always thought they were kind of a third dimension to the axis where they only care about government size but don't really have an aligned stance on policy.

Honestly, that is what they are for the most part. They tend only care about creating chaos. They are literally one step further out there then hardcore libertarians. The only reason why people think they are left wing is that they are the exact opposite of fascists.

[jonnysensible]

...but are anarchists really on the left vs right spectrum? I always thought they were kind of a third dimension to the axis where they only care about government size but don't really have an aligned stance on policy.

yes they are far left. not sure where this government size or aligned stance on policy, if you bother learning about anarchism its all there.

Honestly, that is what they are for the most part. They tend only care about creating chaos. They are literally one step further out there then hardcore libertarians. The only reason why people think they are left wing is that they are the exact opposite of fascists.

as above please learn something. id suggest anything by Malatesta, Graeber, Kropotkin or Bookchin.

or if we are memeing 'REED DESERT'

But I haven't been to Portland recently so I don't know about these anarchists.
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look like black bloc which is more of a tactic

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My post makes perfect sense. I am being critical of Fox News and the far right who claim these protesters are far left. Which is of course ridiculous given that these rioters are anarchists who don't support Biden or Democrats. Anarchists stand in opposition to government, they aren't Democrats, they aren't socialists. If anything they're closer to libertarians. So it's doubly absurd that for Fox News to point at these rioters and say "see see! the LEFT is radical and violent too!!"

wot the fok anarchists are far left

[Machismo]

yes they are far left. not sure where this government size or aligned stance on policy, if you bother learning about anarchism its all there.



as above please learn something. id suggest anything by Malatesta, Graeber, Kropotkin or Bookchin.

or if we are memeing 'REED DESERT'



look like black bloc which is more of a tactic

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wot the fok anarchists are far left

Depends on the particular brand of anarchist.

of course, most anarchists... aren't really... and just want to be in charge.

[jonnysensible]

Depends on the particular brand of anarchist.

of course, most anarchists... aren't really... and just want to be in charge.

you cant be in charge its a prerequisite of anarchy

[Machismo]

you cant be in charge its a prerequisite of anarchy

And yet, many self-decribed anarchists seek to be in charge. They want to use force and violence to compel others to capitulate, and then rule over them. Case in point... anarch-communists.

[Belize]

25 years of collecting miniatures and I never knew. Huh. Thanks! Allthough if I was a betting man I'd still wager a guess that's where these clowns got it from.

You need to read Moorcock's Elric Saga. It's where GW got most of their Chaos lore, to the point where Moorcock wrote for them for a little bit in the early days.

Malal and Kaleb Daark in particular were basically copy/paste Elric before GW lost the rights

[jonnysensible]

And yet, many self-decribed anarchists seek to be in charge. They want to use force and violence to compel others to capitulate, and then rule over them. Case in point... anarch-communists.

surely if we are going to be this vague we can just change a few words....

'And yet, many self-decribed liberals seek to be in charge. They want to use force and violence to compel others to capitulate, and then rule over them. Case in point... capitalists'

ok im out